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    Jul 31, 2009, 11:44 AM
    Tolite flange above subfloor (too high bad contractor)
    I have a 4" ell coming up out of the bathroom floor where the contractor plumbed the toilet in. now that he is gone and we are ready to set the toilet in place (to make sure everything fits) we notice that the ell was up about 2" above the backer board setting on top of the sub floor. I cut the ell off flush with the backer board but I'm not really sure about any product out there to use as a toilet flange. Do you have any thoughts?

    P.S. all parts are glued in place already. (Not removable)
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    Jul 31, 2009, 11:50 AM

    Is this a street ell or is (was) there a hub sticking up above the floor?
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    Jul 31, 2009, 11:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by hkstroud View Post
    Is this a street ell or is (was) there a hub sticking up above the floor?.
    It did have a hub but not any more
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    Jul 31, 2009, 12:27 PM
    I cut the ell off flush with the backer board but I'm not really sure about any product out there to use as a toilet flange. Do you have any thoughts? P.S. all parts are glued in place already. (Not removable)
    If I understand the question the plumber didn't leave you with a closet bend, ( bad plumber!) and instead left the hub of a 4" elbo sticking up out of the floor which you cut off flush with the floor and now you're left with a PVC ell without a hub. Correct?
    [QUOTEI'm not really sure about any product out there to use as a toilet flange. Do you have any thoughts?][/QUOTE]
    I have several thoughts and they all hinge on what's left of the elbo sticking up to the floor line. Is there enough stock left on the elbo to glue a regular 4" PVC flange or perhaps install a inside expanding flange? (see images). If the curve of the ell is bext to the floor cline you may have to open uo the floor and replace the elbo with a closer bend. Let me know. Tom
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    Jul 31, 2009, 12:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    If I understand the question the plumber didn't leave you with a closet bend, ( bad plumber!) and instead left the hub of a 4" elbo sticking up outta the floor which you cut off flush with the floor and now you're left with a PVC ell without a hub. Correct?
    [QUOTEI'm not really sure about any product out there to use as a toilet flange. Do you have any thoughts?]
    I have several thoughts and they all hinge on what's left of the elbo sticking up to the floor line. Is there enough stock left on the elbo to glue a regular 4" PVC flange or perhaps install a inside expanding flange? (see images). If the curve of the ell is bext to the floor cline you may have to open uo the floor and replace the elbo with a closer bend. Let me know. Tom[/QUOTE]

    When I cut the ell, I bought a stand 4" inside flange and cut off some of the pipe section of the fitting. It will work but there is not much going into the ell before it bottoms out and hits the side of the wall. I just thought you might know of another product out there made for crazy mistakes like this.
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    Jul 31, 2009, 01:40 PM

    You can buy closet ring that glues inside the pipe, over the hub... and/or in any possible configuration. It is relatively easy fix...

    Yes, this happens quite often in new construction: during pour, concrete lifts the pipe holding closet ring - and ring will end up too high.
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