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    Jul 10, 2009, 12:51 PM
    Levi's revelation
    Levi Johnston has theory on Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's resignation - she's looking for a payday
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    Jul 10, 2009, 12:56 PM

    I don't fault Palin for trying to cash in (I mean who wouldn't). I just think she went about it the wrong way. She could have finished out the 18 months not run again and then cash in on book deals and what not. I mean it's not like they would go away in 18 months people are fascinated with her. I have to say her quitting does not make her look like a pitbull with lipstick anymore though.
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    Jul 10, 2009, 01:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    I don't fault Palin for trying to cash in (i mean who wouldn't).
    Levi himself has a book deal.

    Why doesn't anyone around me get involved in a scandal I could write about!
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    Jul 10, 2009, 01:02 PM

    I try to think of books to write all the time. But nothing. Although my wife's family are starting to do a good job of giving me material. Then I can be Levi Johnson!! ;)
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    Jul 10, 2009, 01:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    I try to think of books to write all the time. But nothing. Although my wifes family are starting to do a good job of giving me material. Then I can be Levi Johnson!!!! ;)
    I may write one about AMHD -- lots of colorful characters here.
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    Jul 10, 2009, 02:09 PM
    John Ziegler has a different theory. I'd give him more credibility than Levi and his 'revelation.' But I know, Ziegler's theory isn't in line with the 'let's dump on Palin some more' mentality.
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    Jul 10, 2009, 02:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    John Ziegler has a different theory. I'd give him more credibility than Levi and his 'revelation.' But I know, Ziegler's theory isn't in line with the 'let's dump on Palin some more' mentality.
    But Palin said in that video she will continue to fight, yet she has a history as a professional quitter. And she sure knocked the socks off her lieutenant governor! When I've been challenged, instead of running for the hills with my tail between my legs, I've stood up to the challenge and overcome it. And Palin could have too. Although... Patty Blago certainly enjoyed being on that reality show...
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    Jul 10, 2009, 03:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    But Palin said in that video she will continue to fight, yet she has a history as a professional quitter. And she sure knocked the socks off her lieutenant governor! When I've been challenged, instead of running for the hills with my tail between my legs, I've stood up to the challenge and overcome it. And Palin could have too. Although.............Patty Blago certainly enjoyed being on that reality show.................
    First, she said "to be brutally honest, yeah..." to whether she ever wonders if enduring the onslaught is worth it and then said "I cannot sit down and shut up" and that she would continue to fight for what she believes in. That's not inconsistent with her statement after resigning that she didn't need a title to effect change. But naturally, you missed the rest of the picture he painted and prefer to call her a coward... which fits exactly in the 'let's dump on Palin some more' mentality I referred to earlier. That's fine, we'll see what happens soon enough.
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    Jul 10, 2009, 03:02 PM
    Y'know, people who have done nothing wrong don't get named in complaints and lawsuits. If you step down usually you give your reasons. She'll soon wallow in oblivion - this from the *star* VP candidate for the republican party.
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    Jul 11, 2009, 02:58 AM
    So some kid who stepped away from a commitment to marry the women he got pregnant is a credible quotable source now... A kid who is doing a pretty credible job cashing in on his 15 seconds of fame. I'm sure his fortune will forever be tied to how often he can cash in on his former relationship with Bristol Palin. He is a leach .

    Do I think that personal finances are a concern for the Palin family ? Absolutely ; her defense against frivolous ethic complaints has cost her over $500,000;and the state almost $2million .

    Wonder ,you make great bravado by saying you would tough it out .But I doubt you have been under the unrelentless attack Palin and her family have been under since her selection to run with McCain. Do I need to detail them... I think I do.

    She was immediately labeled a piece of Wasilla trailer trash whose only claim to fame was that she didn't exercise her right to choose.She was a 1st term Governor with no experience (as opposed to a 1st term Senator with no experience at the top of the opposing ticket).The attack dogs went after her politics, her background, her educational history, her family,her husband, and her children.The creap Andrew Sullivan at the former respectable publication Atlantic has been trying to prove that Bristol Palin and not Sarah is the mother of Trig . Ethics charges(every one of them dismissed) get filed when on a cold day someone in the family wears a jacket with a corporate logo on it. Her 14 year old daughter becomes the subject of late night comics jokes about rape. She has been the most attacked, most reviled, most slandered, most badly treated person ever to run for any pubic office that I've seen in my lifetime.The media elites like Sally Quinn, Maureen Dowd, and unfortunately the former credible Peggy Noonan are pathetic in their criticism of Palin. Neither has truly accomplished anything that approaches the real-world achievements of Sarah Palin.

    Now maybe she will fade away from the national scene.If she is going to secure her family financially before she makes a decision on her political future then what is wrong with that ? She is competing against millionaires in the political arena who cash in WHILE they are in office . At least she is leaving office before she attempts the cash in. I note that everyone admires Michelle Obama's extravagant wardrobe .I wonder who is paying the tab ? When the McCain camp spent some money to outfit Palin that became an issue .But I'm sure the Obama's will get a pass.

    In America's outlands where they get mocked for suggesting they are "real Americans" ,normal Americans still feel the desire to serve their communities.Palin ,someone who is enjoying herself much more doing the sockeye Salmon run than serving became a community servant ;and did a damn good job of it. She took on the entrenched powers in Alaska ;many of whom were backed by"big oil" , and beat them reforming politics in the state in the process . She spent a significant amount of time negotiating a major gas line through the state and Canada to the lower 48 . That is a done deal . None of these are minor accomplishments and they took a lot of determination to succeed . Maybe you should rethink that label "quitter" .
    The real shame of this ,if indeed it is the end of her political career (which I doubt) ; is that maybe indeed the unrelenting personal attacks against her and her family did take such a toll that she is ready to hang them up. What does that say about politcs in the country ? If you had a desire to be a public servant ,would you subject yourself and your family to the treatment the Palins received ? I kind of doubt it. National office will be left to the elites ;the dynasty families, and the entrenched incumbents. That is not what the founders intended .
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    Jul 11, 2009, 03:24 AM
    Not a word from McCain on all this. How odd. Something smells really fishy.

    Tom,
    People who lead an ethically good life do not get "attacked" by the media. If you feel that the complaints and criticisms all all so undeserved than you've drunk the koolaid. Remember, she was the best that the republican party could bring to the public for VP. Now let's see what happens.
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    Jul 11, 2009, 03:36 AM

    People who lead an ethically good life do not get "attacked" by the media
    Thanks for the morning belly laugh.
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    Jul 11, 2009, 04:07 AM
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    thanks for the morning belly laugh.
    Give me an example.
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    Jul 11, 2009, 05:12 AM
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    People who lead an ethically good life do not get "attacked" by the media. If you feel that the complaints and criticisms all all so undeserved than you've drunk the koolaid.
    That has to be the clueless quote of the day. Second only to "people who have done nothing wrong don't get named in complaints and lawsuits."
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    Jul 11, 2009, 06:06 AM
    Steve to the rescue!
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    Jul 11, 2009, 06:26 AM
    Give me an example
    The best example so far is that 15 ethics complaints have been filed and dismissed . After a while it becomes clear that it is nothing but an elaborate smear job. Even after she announced her resignation 2 more frivilous charges were filed by anklebiters with no credibility of their own. The fact that they were filed after her resignation proves her contention that she would have to fight false ethics charges instead of serve as Governor for the rest of her term is correct. She could not effectively do her job under such conditions.

    There has been a systematic campaign against Palin and yes the media has been complicit. They are far reaching complaints like the fact that on a cold day she put on a jacket with the logo of her husband's racing team... and oh yeah... she held a fish in a photo .
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    Jul 11, 2009, 06:33 AM

    Hello:

    Palin did one good thing; she saved Katy Couric's job.

    excon
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    Jul 11, 2009, 08:29 AM
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    Hello:

    Palin did one good thing; she saved Katy Couric's job.

    excon
    And Michael Jackson gave her a second boost.
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    Jul 11, 2009, 08:32 AM
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    And Michael Jackson gave her a second boost.
    Hello Steve:

    Oooh. I didn't know Palin was into Michael Jackson.;)

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    Jul 11, 2009, 08:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Steve to the rescue!
    Joe the plumber. All he did was ask Obama about taxes and the next thing you know ABC reported a judgment lien against him for $1182 in taxes even though "no action has been taken against him outside of filing the lien," and the deputy clerk of his county said that "there is a 99 percent chance [Wurzelbacher] doesn't know about the lien, unless he did a credit report or was ready to pay his taxes."

    Helen Jones-Kelley, Director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, authorized the use of state computers to dig up dirt on him. The state determined that "we find reasonable cause to conclude that Jones-Kelley committed a wrongful act by authorizing the searches on Wurzelbacher."

    And I'm sure you've never heard of anyone suing someone wealthy and famous just because they were wealthy and famous, or ambulance chasers.

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