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    #221

    Jul 10, 2009, 05:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    Yeah I did use that specifically as a quote in my next reply.

    So that takes us back to the question that we have been asking What does she do with ALL the verses that say the road is narrow and few enter.

    Many will say Lord, Lord and He will answer depart from me you workers of iniquity.

    No one can be saved by the will of man.

    You will know them by their fruits

    etc.....
    It seems that she wants to waffle around the issue, suggest that people who are not Christian are saved, and when she gets called on it, deny that she said it.

    It appears that she does not want to be clear about it. I think that is why she avoids the question like the plague.
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    #222

    Jul 10, 2009, 05:07 PM

    I ask yet again:

    "If he will only accept christians then that is going against everything I have heard of him" means to you God will accept anyone?

    There will be only real Christians in heaven?
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    #223

    Jul 10, 2009, 05:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I ask again:

    "If he will only accept christians then that is going against everything I have heard of him" means to you God will accept anyone?

    There will be only real Christians in heaven?
    If you are saying that God does not accept only Christians, then yes it opens the door to potential to mean anyone can be saved.

    Now if you are not going to have the integrity to apologize, if you don't believe that, then why not stop beating around the bush.
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    #224

    Jul 10, 2009, 05:09 PM

    If they are in heaven then yes they would be real Christians because fake ones would not be of God would they?

    Why can't you tell us how you interpret the verses we have asked way before you asked that?
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    Jul 10, 2009, 05:09 PM

    And I asked ----

    To WG or anyone else who thinks all paths lead to God:

    I'd be interested in hearing how you apply your own personal interpretation to these verses to make them say that there are many ways to be saved other than Jesus.

    John 14:6
    6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
    NKJV

    Acts 4:12
    12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
    NKJV
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    #226

    Jul 10, 2009, 05:12 PM

    I ask yet another time:

    "If he will only accept christians then that is going against everything I have heard of him" means to you God will accept anyone?

    There will be only real Christians in heaven?
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    Jul 10, 2009, 05:16 PM

    You obviously do not want to answer the question about what the verses mean so I give up even bothering with this post. We answered that question now even though you STILL refuse to answer our questions that were asked way before you asked that.

    I can't be bothered wasting my time asking you about what you believe when it is obvious you do not want to answer what you believe those verses mean. I don't know if I feel like I am beating a dead horse or a dog chasing its tail. You refuse to answer our question but you keep insisting ''and yet I ask another time ----yet we DID answer your question. You have yet to even attempt to answer the ?
    I'm out of here until you can answer the original question.
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    #228

    Jul 10, 2009, 05:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    You obviously do not want to answer the question about what the verses mean so I give up even bothering with this post. We answered that question now even though you STILL refuse to answer our questions that were asked way before you asked that.

    I can't be bothered wasting my time asking you about what you believe when it is obvious you do not want to answer what you believe those verses mean. I don't know if I feel like I am beating a dead horse or a dog chasing its tail. You refuse to answer our question but you keep insisting ''and yet I ask another time ----yet we DID answer your question. You have yet to even attempt to answer the ?
    I'm out of here until you can answer the original question.
    I asked first on one of the early screens. Don't put the onus on me. No, you have not answered me.

    A simple yes or no for the two questions will suffice.
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    #229

    Jul 10, 2009, 05:37 PM

    A simple yes or no will suffice?

    So everything is black and white with you?

    Or is it that you can't understand or don't like the answer?

    Well I see you aren't answering so... later.
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    #230

    Jul 10, 2009, 05:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    A simple yes or no will suffice?

    so everything is black and white with you?

    Or is it that you can't understand or don't like the answer?

    Well I see you aren't answering so.....later.
    You can't even answer with a yes or no? (I was trying to keep it easy for you.)

    I thought everything is black or white for YOU.
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    #231

    Jul 10, 2009, 05:50 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I ask yet another time:

    "If he will only accept christians then that is going against everything I have heard of him" means to you God will accept anyone?

    There will be only real Christians in heaven?
    I already answered, but I noticed that you continue to ignore my question


    To WG or anyone else who thinks all paths lead to God:

    I'd be interested in hearing how you apply your own personal interpretation to these verses to make them say that there are many ways to be saved other than Jesus.

    John 14:6
    6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
    NKJV

    Acts 4:12
    12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
    NKJV
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    #232

    Jul 10, 2009, 05:54 PM

    I interpolated from your cryptic response that your answers to my questions are:

    "If he will only accept christians then that is going against everything I have heard of him" means to you God will accept anyone? Tj3 says Yes, that is what that means.

    There will be only real Christians in heaven? Tj3 says Yes, Tj3 says Yes, only real Christians will be there. [bbcode][/bbcode] Christians will be there.
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    #233

    Jul 10, 2009, 06:01 PM

    What in the world is so cryptic about Tj's reply?

    He replied that there is only one way to God through Jesus so yes only real Christians go.

    Now you have your answer from Tj so are you ready to reply how you interpret it?
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    #234

    Jul 10, 2009, 06:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I interpolated from your cryptic response that your answers to my questions are:

    "If he will only accept christians then that is going against everything I have heard of him" means to you God will accept anyone? Tj3 says Yes, that is what that means.

    There will be only real Christians in heaven? Tj3 says Yes, only real Christians will be there.
    Nothing cryptic - it was straightforward. Now,

    To WG or anyone else who thinks all paths lead to God:

    I'd be interested in hearing how you apply your own personal interpretation to these verses to make them say that there are many ways to be saved other than Jesus.

    John 14:6
    6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
    NKJV

    Acts 4:12
    12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
    NKJV
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    #235

    Jul 10, 2009, 06:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    Nothing cryptic - it was straightforward. Now,

    To WG ... who thinks all paths lead to God
    Those are your answers?

    She never said that.
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    #236

    Jul 10, 2009, 06:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Those are your answers?

    She never said that.
    Sigh - we're back to that again - even though the quotes were brought forward.

    It is interesting that you keep refusing to clarify what you believe.
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    #237

    Jul 10, 2009, 06:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Those are your answers?

    She never said that.
    She never said that

    But she never backed herself up with any different answer either.

    So we don't know what it is you believe.
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    #238

    Jul 10, 2009, 06:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    Sigh - we're back to that again - even though the quotes were brought forward.

    It is interesting that you keep refusing to clarify what you believe.
    First, I have to stop you from accusing me of saying what I did not say. When we are clear on that, we can continue.
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    #239

    Jul 10, 2009, 06:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    She never said that

    but she never backed herself up with any different answer either.

    So we don't know what it is you believe.
    And she did say that she agrees that it is not just Christians who will be saved. So the question is only how many different ways that there are to be saved. We know that it is more than one but she refuses to say how many.
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    #240

    Jul 10, 2009, 06:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    And she did say that she agrees that it is not just Christians who will be saved. So the question is only many different ways that there are to be saved. We know that it is more than one but she refuses to say how many.
    Goodbye. Unsubscribed.

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