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Jul 10, 2009, 07:02 AM
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Hi! Everyone :)
News from the Bucket (nftb), July 10th, 2009 ~ Vol. I ~ Edition XI:
Happiness depends upon ourselves.
Aristotle; Greek critic, philosopher, physicist, & zoologist (384 BC - 322 BC)
Something I do to make me happy is, when I rise from the night's sleep I throw on a shirt and my shorts go outside to the yard, and slowly take a walk 'round the property.
It's a peaceful time, as I walk to each of the plant locations to make the first of the day's observations, and in my travels I will have moments of solitude where I give thanks for everything around me, and hope I can be useful today.
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After posting nftb last week we had our 50% of showers come through to the tune of 0.51”. Nice, low humidity, breezy, in the mid70's.
Rainfall for the week at BBX 0.51” ~ KCXY 0.96”
Chance of Showers, T-storms Sat. Sat.nite, POP 60~70%
New rainfall amounts between a quarter and, one-half inch except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.
BB's still looking healthy, hasn't grown much though, only 2 more inches to 59 and girth to 40. He's gained two more toms, makes 20.
At first he took off after the one pruning, but now has leveled off and is pushing his energy into quality of production.
The pruning is doing what it's designed to do, i.e. change plant quantity into quality an that's okay with me. So if you want all the toms your plants can produce, just let the plant grow.
Been busy with other gardening chores. Besides BB, the DW and me have:
- Banana Peppers,
- Red bell peppers,
- mini-straight-neck yellow squash,
- Red raspberry
- Mulberry
- Elderberry
Flowers include: - Hosta
- Calla Lily
- Hydrangea
- Marigolds
- Bearded Iris
- Burgundy Clematis
- Crimson Mandevilla
- Red and Pink Double Impatiens
- and two that you saw in the “fried green zucchini” pix on pg. 14;
- petunia and
- verbena
After the asexual post, the wiley 'mark got me to thinkin' 'bout manual pollination. So now when I go by BB, I started using my index finger to jiggle the blossoms a little, but switched to a long artists brush. I smoke :( and didn't want to take a chance on transferring the residue to BB. I wish I could quit cold turk, and am down to a pack every fortnight and an occasional cigar... I'll get there :)
'bout the Pink Impatiens, while in transport we had a couple of stems break off and I hated to just toss 'em, so I put 'em in a bud vase with plain tap water and after one week they've started to root. See pix. The first is the Mother plant, I had a problem posing them to show the roots so I procured one of Eddies friends (Skelator) to help me.
Impatiens is an annual. See: Annual plant - Wikipedia but if I remember correctly Mom had these forever. You can even do it with a carrot, Just change the water once a week an their happy :)
We have a total of ten Botanists now. In order of appearance - binx44
- Just Dahlia
- tick
- jmjoseph
- twinkiedooter
- shazzmatt
- culyben
- jomercer
- firmbeliever
- George Leigh
See Ya 'round the compost pile!
K
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Jul 10, 2009, 07:19 AM
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 Originally Posted by jomercer
Physiological in the sense that it's not a pest or disease. Some cultivars just do it more than others and some envrionmental factors such a cool temps could be involved . Any Extension home garden tomato publication talks about it.
Here's one from North Dakota with a good picture under the "non-parasitic" bookmark--they call it "leaf roll":
Disease Management in Home-Grown Tomatoes
Jo Mercer (former Extension horticulturist)
Western shore MD, Zone 7, Sandy loam
Thanks Jo! and Welcome to UDT :)
... You know I had a feelin' there was more to your first post than met the eye. I believe we were all leaning in that direction, but just weren't sure, and were hoping JD's Co. Ext. would shed some light. Hope you didn't mind the hard questions.
By the way... where'bouts on the Western shore? I have a Uncle and cousin's in Leonardstown, St. Mary's Co.
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Jul 10, 2009, 07:27 AM
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Hi KUX, I share your interest in Mayans. We had a lovely holiday a few years ago visiting Chichen Itza. It is such a totally awesome place to visit. Almost like the Mayans walked out of their arena and were having a siesta. As a gift for our son who couldn't attend, we had his name written in ancient Mayan on, I forget, some kind of cloth and had it framed when got back. Very interesting. Of course, the food in that area was just so very good, everything fresh and lots of fruit for breakfast.
The hotel where we stayed outside of Cancun was surrounded by ancient temples in varying stages of archeological exploration. They haven't even scratched the surface there yet in discoveries.
I understand just recently they found an untouched temple of the Aztecs below Mexico City.
Have a great day in your garden, friend, as I will in mine, it is my day off.
Tick
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Jul 10, 2009, 07:36 AM
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 Originally Posted by KUXJ
Hi! everyone :)
And just curious 'bout this mushroom, every morning it sprouts, grows to a little under 2" then dies off at night only to start over again the next day.
k
Maybe this is what you have
Fungi world photo selection 2
"Coprinus xanthotrix (mature) possibly. The Willows, Beeston, Nottinghamshire (September 2008)
Cap, up to 4 cm, whitish grey and furrowed. Gills, grey black. Stem, white, tufty. On moist soil near broad-leaved trees. Not edible"
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And here's some more reading for you garden lovers...
Hort Blog
"Fungi are certainly the most common organisms associated with plant disease. I say “associated” because the pathogen, by itself, does not equal disease. A susceptible host plant and the proper environment are also necessary."
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I love this thread,not a gardener at all,but plants are fascinating.
Hello all. :)
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Jul 10, 2009, 08:16 AM
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K.. I do believe we (I give most of the credit to firm for this because they posted before I was able to) have discovered your shroom... It is Coprinus xanthotrix and is definitely not edible. Take a look at these and let me know what you think
http://www.fungiworld.co.uk/images/fungi206L.jpg (mature mushroom)
http://www.fungiworld.co.uk/images/fungi234L.jpg (young mushroom)... I'm taking a look in my mushroom book at home here to see if I can find any growth information or toxin information etc..
So far I have found that is is in the black spore classification and the black inky spores liquefy and can be used as INK...
Check this site out.. you may find it intresting and it helps with classifing Coprinus mushrooms too
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Jul 10, 2009, 08:20 AM
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 Originally Posted by binx44
i love that you chose that symbol K.. its also very intresting looking. i was thinking of getting a myan tattoo but i wasnt sure where to begin looking for proper glyphs. So far i have a lady bug tattoo (prosperity and luck) two butterflies (love and freedom) Its nice to see you with an avitar finally :D
I've always loved ancient culture. i love learning new things and discovering things that are used today that were actually used long ago.. for example. . i found out yesterday that a few hundred years AD the chinese actually had flamethrowers (dont you just love the ancient histroy channel) neat huh.
Pick a site... any site. Mayan glyphs - Google Search
The Greeks also:
Greek fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 Originally Posted by binx44
lots of planning to do today. our friends daughters 10th birthday party is today and i've got to get her something. and i'm going to start drawing flower bed plans by my front door i get wicked good sunlight there where in my last place the windows were badly placed and i got NO sun at all and no sun around the front door we had (which was all the property we had LOL) so i get to go nuts.. might not plant anything but it'll be nice to have it all planned and marked and ready to go
Why not get her a book? A good one.
What's her interests?
Does she like anything you do?
Do you have any books that you hold dearly, but would like to pass along?
Leave a note of remembrance, and after the excitement of her youth fades away... She will have you to hold.
K
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Jul 10, 2009, 08:25 AM
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Hi! firmbeliever, and Welcome to UDT :)
 Originally Posted by firmbeliever
Maybe this is what you have
I think :confused: its closer to #2 on 10
Or
#1 on 12
Fungi world photo selection 2
I'll double check, but it will have to wait till tomorrow morning...
 Originally Posted by firmbeliever
I love this thread,not a gardener at all,but plants are fascinating. Hello all. :)
Thank You very much! Yes they are. Enjoy your visits!
K
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Jul 10, 2009, 08:35 AM
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 Originally Posted by tickle
Hi KUX, I share your interest in Mayans. We had a lovely holiday a few years ago visiting Chichen Itza. It is such a totally awesome place to visit. Almost like the Mayans walked out of their arena and were having a siesta. As a gift for our son who couldnt attend, we had his name written in ancient Mayan on, I forget, some kind of cloth and had it framed when got back. Very interesting. Of course, the food in that area was just so very good, everything fresh and lots of fruit for breakfast.
The hotel where we stayed outside of Cancun was surrounded by ancient temples in varying stages of archeological exploration. They havent even scratched the surface there yet in discoveries.
I understand just recently they found an untouched temple of the Aztecs below Mexico City.
Someday, Someway we'll get there.
 Originally Posted by tickle
Have a great day in your garden, friend, as I will in mine, it is my day off.
tick
Arggg!. Cap'!. Orders 'ceived... now where'd I put my parrot? Candy wheere's the parrot?
Steve
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Jul 10, 2009, 08:37 AM
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K.. She's not a book type girl. She's more of the girl who's out playing outdoors with the boys rather then being inside with a book but I was thinking maybe a membership and a 3 month riding instruction all paid for her at the local riding facility.. she's always asking me about animals and horses are her favorite *i'm a horse freak too* Though I do have an animal species around the world book *its thick* that I know she loves and I just bought a new copy of so maybe I'll give her my brand new copy and keep my old one instead of sending it off to hide in my attic with all the rest of my books that are falling apart with use that I can't bring myself to get rid of. Ohhh I don't know.. I'm so bad with gifts LOL... I still remember when I could pick her up and carry her around on my shoulders.. its hard to believe we have known them for so long. I'll look at the myan links.. totally :D and the greek ones too.. I'm into symbolism..
About the mushroom.. you sure you looking at the right photo on the link they gave? I noticed even when I was using it this morning that it didn't always send you to the photo you wanted. I also checked out mushroomexpert.com
Ooo yes and this.. I found this intresting.. its another opinion about the winter solstace (dec 21 2012) and the myan calendars...
On the day of the Winter Solstice, December 21st, 2012, many of the greater and lesser Mayan cycles converge. This has often been interpreted to be the portent of some fearful doomsday scenario awaiting the fate of mankind and the Earth. It has also been a point of derision in dismissing the entirety of the validity of an ancient calendar as meaningless in modern society. The astrophysical reality behind this particular date is that this is the precise day that the solar meridian crosses the galactic equator. The Earth, Sun, and the galactic center of the Milky Way are in alignment, with the Sun directly between Earth and the center of the galaxy. The ecliptic plane of the Milky Way galaxy is within a dark band stretching across the length of it which the ancient Mayans called the Road to Xibalba. In reality (the reality consensus of modern science, that is) this dark band is caused by interstellar dust particles obscuring the view of the stars that populate this region of space. The midpoint of this dark, narrow band in the Milky Way is the Galactic Center, in the direction of the constellation Saggitarius, with about 50,000 light years in either direction to the outer reaches of this mid-sized galaxy. This particular juncture in time is also believed to be alluded to in The Great Cross at Hendaye, a mysterious cross of unknown origin in Europe.
http://www.geocities.com/dreamingbones/dreamspell5.html
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Jul 10, 2009, 08:42 AM
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 Originally Posted by binx44
K.. i do believe we (i give most of the credit to firm for this because they posted before i was able to) have discovered your shroom.... It is Coprinus xanthotrix and is definately not edible. Take a look at these and let me know what you think
http://www.fungiworld.co.uk/images/fungi206L.jpg (mature mushroom)
http://www.fungiworld.co.uk/images/fungi234L.jpg (young mushroom) ... i'm taking a look in my mushroom book at home here to see if i can find any growth information or toxin information etc..
So far i have found that is is in the black spore classification and the black inky spores liquify and can be used as INK.....
check this site out.. you may find it intresting and it helps with classifing Coprinus mushrooms too
Yes those are the ones I thought. I'll check in the morn 'bout the black underside, don't 'member black. Can't do it now as they have a short morning life span.
Did you forget the link?
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Jul 10, 2009, 08:47 AM
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Ohh no my link.. where did my link go... *pokes forum* did the forum eat my link lol
Coprinoid Mushrooms: The Inky Caps (MushroomExpert.Com) here it is :D..
I didn't find anything about toxins though so I wouldn't eat it LMAO *no I didn't think you would* it may also have subspecies of the same kind of mushroom... after checking yours out let me know what you think if not I can keep searching for you :D
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Jul 10, 2009, 09:02 AM
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Just thought I would chime in on this one, if anyone is still reading along after 22 pages?
I guess tomato plants are really popular like roses!
Have grown fields full of tomato plants and I too saw that commercial and thought, I could do that, just like you did.
Also I thought, does that company know what a full grown tomato plant weighs? Because I picture people handing them on little bitty hooks then getting concussions and suing them when they break off there...
Any way my thinking is, you can grow your bucketed tomato right side up, with or without a stake until it starts to set little green fruits, at which time you can invert it and hang it up, the weight of the fruits causing it to hang down straight. Within a day or two the individual leaves on the stem will have turned themselves around to face the sun just like a sunflower does.
Also folks be careful what kind of bucket you use, best to start with a brand new one to avoid any kind of plant diseases.
In the past growing container plants my tomatoes did best in soil in the garden rather than in containers but I have grown some really great peppers in big containers as the plants are much smaller when fully grown.
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Jul 10, 2009, 09:19 AM
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Currently, many species of mushrooms, which have been used in Asian folk medicine for thousands of years, are under intense study by ethnobotanists and medical researchers. Maitake, shiitake, Agaricus blazei, chaga, and reishi are prominent among those being researched for potential anti-cancer, anti-viral, and immune system-enhancing properties.
In Europe and Japan, Polysaccharide-K (brand name Krestin), a chemical derived from Trametes versicolor, is an approved adjuvant for cancer therapy.[15][16] The shiitake mushroom is a source of lentinan, a beta-glucan which is also approved in various countries including Japan, as an adjuvant for cancer therapy.[17][18][19]
In 2009, a case-control study of the eating habits of 2,018 woman, revealed that women who consumed mushrooms had an approximately 50% lower incidence of breast cancer. Women who consumed mushrooms and green tea had a 90% lower incidence of breast cancer.[20] Human clinical studies are currently being conducted in the United States to investigate if the common table mushroom can limit breast cancer.[21] The reason scientists believe the table mushroom may inhibit breast cancer is due to the fact it possess anti-aromatase activity[22][23] (and therefore possible anti-estrogen activity in the human body) as well as immune system enhancing properties.[24][25]
The City of Hope National Medical Center is currently conducting clinical trials to determine the anti-cancer effects of the shiitake mushroom.[26]
Oyster mushrooms are a natural source of lovastatin, a widely prescribed statin drug used to lower cholesterol.[27]
Wikipedia (taken from) I thought this was intresting...
George.. Yes there are still people reading it after 22 pages :D. Well I never thought about that... and yes the commercial does show poor hanging tequniques... I wonder if people have gotten hurt yet or not.
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Jul 10, 2009, 02:10 PM
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 Originally Posted by George Leigh
Just thought I would chime in on this one, if anyone is still reading along after 22 pages?
I guess tomato plants are really popular like roses!!
Maybe you should start a thread on roses? I would be very interested, I have sooo many.
Also I thought, does that company know what a full grown tomato plant weighs? Because I picture people handing them on little bitty hooks then getting concussions and suing them when they break off of there....
I have had to put extra support on my fence and still worry about pulling the fence down.:p
Any way my thinking is, you can grow your bucketed tomato right side up, with or without a stake until it starts to set little green fruits, at which time you can invert it and hang it up, the weight of the fruits causing it to hang down straight. Within a day or two the individual leaves on the stem will have turned themselves around to face the sun just like a sunflower does.
Maybe something for next year, if I survive this year.:)
In the past growing container plants my tomatoes did best in soil in the garden rather than in containers but I have grown some really great peppers in big containers as the plants are much smaller when fully grown.
I have had various results, I have one in the ground now that is a baby and the others in pots I am tieing back.:confused:
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Jul 10, 2009, 07:01 PM
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Jul 11, 2009, 04:50 AM
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Hi! George Leigh, and Welcome to UDT :)
 Originally Posted by George Leigh
Just thought I would chime in on this one, if anyone is still reading along after 22 pages? I guess tomato plants are really popular like roses!!
Sure George, any and all contributions are greatly appreciated. I wanted to respond sooner, but was busy with the nftb newsletter, and updating the UDT links. 22 Pages? Never in my wildest dreams. If you haven't, take some time to look back.
The idea that our Roving Botanist, Dr. Just Dahlia phd.udt. has 'bout starting your own thread on roses sounds like a wonderful idea!
Her pix on page 18 post 180 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/garden...352932-18.html a dinner plate Dahlia still leaves me speechless, For some reason I started hearing Peruvian Flute Music and still do when I view it. (My apologies for not complimenting you sooner Dr. D..."Ouch" wadya do dat for?)
 Originally Posted by George Leigh
Have grown fields full of tomato plants and I too saw that commercial and thought, I could do that, just like you did. Also I thought, does that company know what a full grown tomato plant weighs? Because I picture people handing them on little bitty hooks then getting concussions and suing them when they break off of there....
I'm estimating my UDT weighed in at 80lbs when I hung it Convert-Me.Com - online units conversion :: View topic - Weight of Dirt (didn't feel like a bag of Cment) one reason I used 1.5” bar stock.
From past experience I knew the bucket handle would probably not last, that's why I added the 12/3 romex. The camera was acting up when I took the pix, but the roladex says its on page 12 post 112 https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/garden...352932-12.html
 Originally Posted by George Leigh
Any way my thinking is, you can grow your bucketed tomato right side up, with or without a stake until it starts to set little green fruits, at which time you can invert it and hang it up, the weight of the fruits causing it to hang down straight. Within a day or two the individual leaves on the stem will have turned themselves around to face the sun just like a sunflower does.
Looks like an easier way to get started, do you think the bucket should have a lid to keep the dirt in or would it cake, and stay in by itself?
 Originally Posted by George Leigh
Also folks be careful what kind of bucket you use, best to start out with a brand new one to avoid any kind of plant diseases.
That's sage advice!
 Originally Posted by George Leigh
In the past growing container plants my tomatoes did best in soil in the garden rather than in containers but I have grown some really great peppers in big containers as the plants are much smaller when fully grown.
I can't shake the notion “The larger the container, the bigger the plant”. The largest container I know is Good ol' Mother Earth.
Well... Its been nice chatting with Ya George, I have to go and check on some 'shrooms for binx and firmbeliever.
Ketch Ya Later... k
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Jul 11, 2009, 05:31 AM
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B and firmb I checked for 'shrooms... Stop :)
Nothing!. Stop :(
Believe micro-climate too dry!. Stop :eek:
Will check again in the morn.. after storms roll though... Stop :)
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Jul 11, 2009, 06:46 AM
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K... I believe you may be correct there. The Micro-climate might be too dry.. are there more days then just this one when you don't see said 'shrooms appear? Seasonal varients in the same season always wreak havoc on 'shrooms.. we had some beautiful ones growing here (I've got to get my camera charged) but once the dampness in the air and the coolness in the morning has changed they are no longer there *cries* Love the new edition of links.. I feel so special when I see my own links in there :D though on page twenty post 193. Maybe we should state what the link is for? *just adding advice *
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Jul 11, 2009, 09:48 AM
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 Originally Posted by binx44
K...I believe you may be correct there. the Micro-climate might be too dry.. are there more days then just this one when you dont see said 'shrooms appear?
Hard to tell, this is the longest dry spell we've had for 'bout 5 weeks.
It did sprinkle for less then a minute today at 6:10am edt that's the first since last Friday evening.
I've been known to portage H2O to try and get another spawn for the Morels.
I just checked, Radar looks ominous and NWS put up a HAZ alert for us:
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA
1011 AM EDT SAT JUL 11 2009
PAZ004>006-010>012-017>019-024>028-033>037-041-042-045-046-049>053-
056>059-063>066-121415-
1011 AM EDT SAT JUL 11 2009
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA.
.DAY ONE... TODAY AND TONIGHT.
THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON AND
EVENING... AS A COLD FRONT PUSHES ACROSS THE REGION. THE MAIN
THREATS WOULD BE FOR DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND HAIL... BUT TORNADOES MAY BE POSSIBLE.
Darn!. and I was going to get my hair done! :mad:
There is a short wave that should hit 'bout 4pm edt, then the main 'bout 8pm
 Originally Posted by binx44
Seasonal varients in the same season always wreak havoc on 'shrooms.. we had some beautiful ones growing here (i've got to get my camera charged) but once the dampness in the air and the coolness in the morning has changed they are no longer there *cries*
Someone needs to start a poll for more smiley's
 Originally Posted by binx44
Love the new edition of links.. I feel so special when i see my own links in there :D though on page twenty post 193. maybe we should state what the link is for? *just adding advice *
Not sure what's up with that one? Did the usual, went to preview, and that's usually when the server puts the tag in, BUT not this time.
Luckily AMHD has a long edit time (I seen up to 24hrs.) and I was able to add a line. See if that's okay.
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Jul 11, 2009, 11:50 AM
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Well I hope you don't get any hail, tornadoes or windgusts that are too bad... Its been dry, Hot. Around 28 c today so its been nice. Supposed to get mild rainshowers to 1 to 3 mm of rain in the next two days.
I do agree... hmmm where would said poll about smilies be put and what smilie options should be on said poll... *thinks*
The Tagline for the link looks good to me... :D I had to say something. It stood out to me and your right AMHD does usually add the taglines
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