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    #161

    Jul 3, 2009, 08:16 PM
    Have a great 4th for everyone who celebrates! :D
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    #162

    Jul 4, 2009, 02:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by KUXJ View Post
    I forgot my manners....:(

    Welcome to UDT :), and Thank You shazamataz for the idea.

    I was thinking, "how do I keep this Updated without consuming Bandwidth".

    A PM is in the works.

    k
    No worries, I pop in and out of threads a lot... you may not see me for a month, I may be back tomorrow hehe

    Hopefully Ben goes for it.

    That UTP is huge now! :eek:
    I can't even grow weeds in my yard haha
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    Jul 4, 2009, 05:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by shazamataz View Post
    Hopefully Ben goes for it.

    That UTP is huge now! :eek:
    I can't even grow weeds in my yard haha
    Quote Originally Posted by KUXJ View Post
    A PM is in the works.
    All I can do is wait. :)pace....:)pace...:)pace...

    I sent the PM last evening 'bout 10pm edt Fri. that would have been 03:00Z Sat. which made your time, noon Sat. if your near Sydney.

    Ahh... What time is it again? :confused:

    Yes it is! I've never had one take off like this!
    Its not the weeds we're concerned 'bout :rolleyes:


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    #164

    Jul 4, 2009, 07:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by binx44 View Post
    *hmmm is there a male and female tomato plant or are they asexual*
    1.) We need to establish the meaning of asexual.

    Asexual
    Dictionary: a·sex·u·al (ā-sĕk'shū-əl) adjective

    1.Having no evident sex or sex organs; sexless.
    2.Relating to, produced by, or involving reproduction that occurs without the union of male and female gametes, as in binary fission or budding.
    3.Lacking interest in or desire for sex.

    Asexuality a·sex'u·al'i·ty (-ăl'ĭ-tē) n.
    Asexually a·sex'u·al·ly adv.

    For the purposes of this discussion I shall stay with this one.
    As applied to propagation, indicates any method of increasing plants except by seeds, such as by cuttings, layering, or division.
    Gardener's Dictionary: asexual

    2.) is there a male and female tomato plant

    Technically, the tomato is hermaphroditic which means that both male and female parts exist in the same flower. Plant Answers

    There is a female-sterile plant that scientist are working with to produce fruit.
    A FEMALE-STERILE MUTANT IN THE TOMATO -- HONMA and PHATAK 55 (3): 143 -- Journal of Heredity

    Through Human intervention, mutations can, and do occur that result in sterile, but healthy blossoms of each.
    There is genetic research being done to see if plants of this type can be made to produce fruit.
    Wiley InterScience
    Natural intervention does happen, but at a rate that is difficult for anyone but a scientist to observe.


    Now that we have established a baseline, I can answer your questions

    Are there male and female tomato plants?
    Yes

    Are they asexual?
    Using the first definitions #1 and #3 No.
    Using #2 and the Gardeners Dictionary Yes, because tomatoes can be propagated as mentioned in the Gardeners Dictionary.

    I take no responsibility if the server edits any of this post. That's its job.



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    #165

    Jul 4, 2009, 07:55 AM
    Thread now a sticky as it's very interesting.
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    #166

    Jul 4, 2009, 08:13 AM

    Hi! Curlyben, Thank You! I am honored.

    May you and yours have a Great Day!

    Kindest Regards,

    k
    Aka Steve
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    #167

    Jul 4, 2009, 11:08 AM

    Yay, well done KUXJ :)
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    #168

    Jul 5, 2009, 02:35 PM
    Attachment 21648
    This is Mama Mia, so no prize. Not an UDT
    Attachment 21649
    This is the sun scorch I was talking about, but the red one was right next to it and it seems fine
    Attachment 21650
    This is the other side of the same tomato.

    Well... nothing worked there, I will try again:(
    I wish I new how to delete the whole thing.
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    Jul 5, 2009, 02:42 PM
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    It worked this time, so you have the comments on the previous post.:)
    The red one has no spots, it was a reflection.

    I have the first red (sorta) tomato, but it's not on a UDT, so I don't win:(
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    Jul 5, 2009, 05:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Just Dahlia View Post
    It worked this time, so you have the comments on the previous post.:)
    The red one has no spots, it was a reflection.
    Hi! Just Dahlia... I was wondering who that was with the camera. :)
    Your quite right that is Sun scald, half way down left center. See:
    Green Fruit Disorders - Tomato Problem Solver | Aggie Horticulture

    Quote Originally Posted by Just Dahlia View Post
    I wish I new how to delete the whole thing.
    Only the Admin can do that, but if the edit button is still there on the post you want to delete you could go back and attach another pix of more toms...
    • Click edit
    • Then go advanced
    • cut everything there
    • attach new pix, you might have to add text
    • or type new message
    • Click save



    Quote Originally Posted by Just Dahlia View Post
    I have the first red (sorta) tomato, but it's not on a UDT, so I don't win:(
    Never fear!.
    Now where did I put those Diploma's? :confused: Eddie, where'd you put those Diploma's?. rummage... rummage... goes upstairs... goes into the basement... out to the shed... rummage... rummage

    Ahh... Here they are! :)

    Okay everyone pay attention!!!
    Clears throat... harrumph... cough...

    ********************

    To the Esteem Faculty of Ask Me Help Desk, Mr. curlyben, Mr. Dahlia, fellow members of Ask Me Help Desk, fellow contributors of UDT, fellow Botanists, Ladies and Gentlemen:

    It is with Extreme Honor that I have been asked to present Mrs. Dahlia with thee "First" UDT Diploma.

    Mrs. Dahlia.....

    In recognition of your steadfast Diligence, and untiring Devotion to your Tomatoes,
    Your unwavering Effort's in the face of unbearable weather conditions,
    never asking for a brief respite until your Charges were taken care of First.
    I hereby bestow, upon you, The Degree of UDT. Congratulations! Doctor Dahlia!

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I present Doctor Dahlia! The Doctor is in!

    applause! applause! applause! applause!

    ********************

    Refreshments will be served immediately following, in the Lounge.

    Wallet size, suitable for framing... k
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    #171

    Jul 6, 2009, 05:45 AM
    Hi! Everyone :)

    Just a couple of things this morning.

    Was thinking 'bout the asexual post and pollination, for now I'm giving the fruit stems a little shake to observe if it will produce more... more on Friday.

    Found a Salsa recipe... It's Fiesta Time

    And just curious 'bout this mushroom, every morning it sprouts, grows to a little under 2" then dies off at night only to start over again the next day.

    Wow, that was some reception last night for Dr. Dahlia!
    I would have stayed later, but had to get Eddie to the airport, glad I stuck to the Bloody Mary's... sans alcohol.

    K
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    Jul 6, 2009, 11:53 AM

    Congrats to JD... and K... what location exactally are you in. it could help me narrow down which mushroom that is for you. Mind you I mean the state you reside in and if it is In the northern, southern, eastern or western portion of the state and I don't mean your exact location. Wouldn't need much more then the state though maybe now that I think about it
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    Jul 6, 2009, 01:39 PM
    I know nothing about mushrooms, except for the ones you eat and buy at the local grocer. I didn't even know that they died at night and could sprout that fast, I just always thought field mushrooms were beautiful and intriguing.

    But, I am remiss with my speech, must have been those Bloody Marys KUXJ was sharing. I think he put something in mine.

    ::clears throat::

    I'd like to thank...
    *First of all the weather, even though it was not predictable as it usually is, with out weather we have nothing.

    *I would like to thank Lowe's for the 'pot' in which MAMA MIA has been living her life

    *I really need to thank my 'hoarding' gene for saving the Miracle Grow for Tomatoes for years and my organizational skills for being able to find said Miracle Grow.

    *My dogs for not digging up the plants

    *and of course KUXJ, Binx44 for info and support through the many problems that have occurred

    And who am I forgetting:rolleyes:
    Oh yeah... Tick, Shaz and JMjoseph for their interest and recipe.

    If I have forgotten anyone I apologize, it must be the Bloody Marys!:cool:
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    Jul 6, 2009, 06:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Just Dahlia View Post
    I know nothing about mushrooms, except for the ones you eat and buy at the local grocer. I didn't even know that they died at night and could sprout that fast, I just always thought field mushrooms were beautiful and intriguing.

    You would be amazed how quick some fungi can grow, let off spores and die off.. I think its amazing to watch them early in the morning. (i have wayyy to much time on my hands right now lol... that i actually watch the corn and mushrooms grow in the yard and field)

    But, I am remiss with my speech, must have been those Bloody Marys KUXJ was sharing. I think he put something in mine.

    LOL (thats when you just smile and ask for another one)

    ::clears throat::

    I'd like to thank...
    *First of all the weather, even though it was not predictable as it usually is, with out weather we have nothing.

    *I would like to thank Lowes for the 'pot' in which MAMA MIA has been living her life

    *I really need to thank my 'hoarding' gene for saving the Miracle Grow for Tomatoes for years and my organizational skills for being able to find said Miracle Grow.

    *My dogs for not digging up the plants

    *and of course KUXJ, Binx44 for info and support through the many problems that have occurred

    (aww you know we luv you :D. Your contribution to this thread was just as intresting as the thread its self :)

    and who am I forgetting:rolleyes:
    oh yeah... Tick, Shaz and JMjoseph for their interest and recipe.

    If I have forgotten anyone I apologize, it must be the Bloody Marys!:cool:

    Lol. And here's some random typing because for some reason this is not letting me post and its saying my message has to be more then two characters.. its way more then two characters.. I typed.. can it not see the blue? (Pouts)
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    Jul 7, 2009, 08:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by binx44 View Post
    Congrats to JD.... and K... what location exactally are you in. it could help me narrow down which mushroom that is for you. Mind you i mean the state you reside in and if it is In the northern, southern, eastern or western portion of the state and i dont mean your exact location. Wouldnt need much more then the state though maybe now that i think about it
    If you stop to think 'bout it, Mother Nature started “Location... Location... Location... She just never bragged 'bout it.
    • Pennsylvania
    • According to local lore “South Central"
    • Southeast corner of South Central location
    • Been growing in woody tanbark
    • pix were taken 72 minutes apart
    • I'd give you the Google Earth Co-ordinates, but then I'd have to dispose of the body :rolleyes:
    • suffice it to say 40N ~ 77W
    • 'shrooms are circled, will have to make thicker next time
    • "I" think I smell another diploma.




    Quote Originally Posted by Just Dahlia View Post
    I know nothing about mushrooms, except for the ones you eat and buy at the local grocer. I didn't even know that they died at night and could sprout that fast,
    Some of the fastest growers on the Planet. Ran into morels 3weeks ago (shhh....secret spot...sneek 'round.....sneek 'round) Delicious!

    Wild About Mushrooms: Morels
    Quote Originally Posted by Just Dahlia View Post
    I just always thought field mushrooms were beautiful and intriguing.
    My sentiments exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just Dahlia View Post
    But, I am remiss with my speech, must have been those Bloody Marys KUXJ was sharing. I think he put something in mine.

    ::clears throat::

    I'd like to thank...
    *First of all the weather, even though it was not predictable as it usually is, with out weather we have nothing.

    *I would like to thank Lowes for the 'pot' in which MAMA MIA has been living her life

    *I really need to thank my 'hoarding' gene for saving the Miracle Grow for Tomatoes for years and my organizational skills for being able to find said Miracle Grow.

    *My dogs for not digging up the plants

    *and of course KUXJ, Binx44 for info and support through the many problems that have occurred

    and who am I forgetting:rolleyes:
    oh yeah... Tick, Shaz and JMjoseph for their interest and recipe.

    If I have forgotten anyone I apologize, it must be the Bloody Marys!:cool:
    Hear! Hear! Well Said!

    Applause!! Applause!! Applause!! Applause!!

    Well... We couldn't find Celery stalks, and even though my new found 'shrooms look like parasols, I told Eddie, “Don't put them in the drinks!” He does mean well.
    Don't feel bad, I'm wearin' the Foster Grants too. :cool:

    Quote Originally Posted by binx44 View Post
    Lol. and heres some random typing because for some reason this is not letting me post and its saying my message has to be more then two characters.. its way more then two characters.. I typed.. can it not see the blue? (Pouts)
    Usually on a forum, writings that are contained in “Quotes” as in “Quote User” are similar to an image, and the server holds that image until it recognizes additional text outside of the boundaries of the “Quote Brackets”. Either [ or ]

    A member is still allowed to modify the interior of that image, but again, the server is holding that “Image” until it “sees” additional input.

    By the way... I liked what you were trying to do. :)

    There is another technique called “Nested Quotes” an example is in/on UDT Page 17 ~ Post 163 .
    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/garden...352932-17.html
    If you would like to see how that works, click on "Quote User" and study the code presented.

    Well... gotta get going, the Sun's goin' down, got things to do.
    Think my verbena has aphids ( got the dreaded "cottony mass" see pix) did spray with soapy water mix and moved 'em... time will tell...

    Ketch Ya later :) k
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    Jul 7, 2009, 09:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by KUXJ View Post

    think my verbena has aphids ( got the dreaded "cottony mass" see pix) did spray with soapy water mix and moved 'em.....time will tell.....

    Ketch Ya later :) k
    I can't find the pix of the circled mushrooms and the verbena :confused:
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    Jul 7, 2009, 10:44 AM

    Pictures of 'shroom's are on the top of page 18. Though I am not sure where this other photo K is talking about is... *thinks it got eaten by the computer post monsters*

    K why thanks for saying you liked what I was trying to do :D hehe so did I until it didn't like me. Not hard to add a little text though. Will start searching my books for your mysterious super speed growth 'shrooms :D and will get back to you. I'm pretty sure I've seen a pix of them before while flipping through looking for edible varietys (yum yum I love mushrooms) Only thing with mushrooms though is that you should always be 100% sure of what your looking at before even touching it because some carry toxins that can be absorbed through your skin and effect you not just intruducing toxins through digestion of said 'shroom
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    Jul 7, 2009, 11:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Just Dahlia View Post
    I can't find the pix of the circled mushrooms and the verbena :confused:
    Yea, I know I downloaded them, I'll try again, check bottom of page...


    Quote Originally Posted by binx44 View Post
    not sure where this other photo K is talking about is... *thinks it got eaten by the computer post monsters*
    I thinks your right. Your welcome, Yes, I've seen them before to, and your "Dead Right" 'bout that last comment!

    Looks like it worked this time. I checked the verbena tried rubbin the "mass" away, but didn't move, mite be "Sun scald"
    You can see the yellow circles better in the V pix, barely in the 'shrooms. Again 'shroom pix 72minutes apart.

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    Jul 7, 2009, 06:44 PM
    You guys are too computer intelligent for me, I feel like a dunce.:(
    I will continue with my regular posts and be proud if I can download something. :D

    I have more pink-esh tomatoes!:D

    Deb
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    Jul 7, 2009, 06:55 PM
    Proving I can grow something without a infection and download the pic... Name:  tomatoes and golf 2009 006.jpg
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