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    450donn Posts: 1,821, Reputation: 239
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    Jun 15, 2009, 08:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:
    IF the enemy is pissed off at us, and they are. It's NOT because of the photos. It's because of the BEHAVIOR the photos depict.... The behavior isn't a secret. Everybody KNOWS what the photos will show.
    excon
    So what you are saying, it is OK for US to release photos of some claimed atrocity, but it is not OK for US to release the photos of the atrocities that they have perpetrated against people who do not bow down to their brand of religion? Is that what you are saying?
    Sort of a double standard isn't it?
    While I appreciate your service in the blue water Navy for 5-1/2 years, it is not even remotely the same as crawling around in the jungles of Viet Nam or any other hell hole to support the agenda of the POTUS who ever it might be this week. You do have your right to your beliefs because of that service, but I certainly do not have to agree with your outlandish claims, Just like you do not have to agree with mine.
    One thing you do get is that the current enemy of the US is really really mad at US. But I am not totally convinced that you understand the reason for that.
    History tells us that the middle eastern region was at one time one of the most fertile, productive regions of the World. Their achievements in construction and, science are on par with anything that has ever been. What happened to them? One word, Religion! They have been duped into a fanatic religion that wants the world pushed back into the stone age. Until the world realizes that and get a handle on how to stop the fanatics we (the world) will not know peace. Any thing that any government does that gives those fanatics another chip, bargaining tool, recruiting too, what ever you want to call it is just plane silly and dangerous to everybody. Do you really want one of those crazies to carry a suitcase bomb into down town Seattle and detonate it at the top of the space needle? Or how about New York? It will happen and probably in our lifetime if these crazies are not stopped. Sadly it has become the responsibility of the USA to do that. Because the rest of the world is too timid to speak up. One only needs to look at how fast Spain caved when they were hit with one small bombing and a few threats. Do you really want to bow to their god 5 times a day or be beheaded? Fortunately, I know the one true God and I will not bow to their god. But many others will succumb to their pressure and then where will this world be? Look to Africa, or the middle east to see what this world could look like in another 20 years. I for one do not that for my grand children.
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    Jun 15, 2009, 09:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by 450donn View Post
    So what you are saying, it is OK for US to release photos of some claimed atrocity, but it is not OK for US to release the photos of the atrocities that they have perpetrated against people who do not bow down to their brand of religion? Is that what you are saying??
    Hello again, 450:

    You're saying the US government HAS photos of Arab atrocities against it's enemy's and won't disclose them?? Is that what you're saying?? You'll have to show me the source of your claim. I don't know that we have these photos, and if we did, I don't know why we wouldn't release them.

    excon

    PS> Your assumption about me and fox holes would be WRONG again. If I told you WHAT medals I earned and HOW I earned them, I doubt that would even shut you up.

    PPS> I'm still waiting to hear how much YOU sacrificed for your country. Or are you like Cheney? Talk tough about war, but run away when it's time to put your a$$ on the line.
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    Jun 15, 2009, 03:41 PM

    Pissing off the enemy? Huh? I though you guys were sick of footing around these jihad terrorist scum?? I thought you couldn't care less about them or what they stand for?

    You don't honestly believe that the release of a few nasty photos is going to make these guys hate you anymore do you? I thought they wanted you wiped off the face of the planet? Doesn't sound to me like they could hate you anymore than they already do.
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    Jun 18, 2009, 10:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    Let me say it again. I don't think it's getting through to you guy's over there. Is it GRAPE koolaid you're drinking?????

    IF the enemy is pissed off at us, and they are. It's NOT because of the photos. It's because of the BEHAVIOR the photos depict.... The behavior isn't a secret. Everybody KNOWS what the photos will show.

    Therefore, if the enemy already KNOWS about our behavior, and they DO, and it pissed them off, then the release of the DEPICTIONS of that behavior won't make any difference... It really won't....


    You guys, as usual, seem to be hung up on the MESSENGER. But, the ACT that the message confirms, not so much. Makes no sense to a simple guy like me.

    excon
    Remember that old saying "a picture is worth a thousand words"?

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