[RCharles]

Hello

My house came with a plastic sump (30gal?) buried in the basement concrete and connected to water and sewer drain pipes (PVC) emerging from the concrete about ten feet away. There also is a vent pipe available in the ceiling.

I've contacted a plumber to hook it all up but it's my job to find and buy the pump that goes into the sump.

The available 2" drain pipe is about five-six feet off the floor. I have a dedicated 20 AMP outlet already installed.

What pumps are recommended for this application? Please comment on reliability and any problems you have experienced.

Many thanks

Ray

hkstroud - Home Improvement & Construction Expert - wrote: "You need a sewage ejection pump. Available at home centers. "

Well, duh! I was looking for specific brands and models, and any problems with certain brands. Home Depot doesn't always have the best products for a given application.

Cheers!

Ray

Milo Dolezal

Thanks for suggesting the Zoeller of M267 ejector pump. I had heard that name before but wasn't sure of the quality. I'll search and study this pump on the web.

A related question: the sump in my townhouse is sunk in the concrete with the top level with the floor. Unfortunately it's about two feet in front of the electrical and communications panels. My concern is the discharge and vent pipes; if these are straight up from the sump they will interfere with access to the panels.

Can I run the Zoeller discharge PVC and/or the vent PVC horizontal to the wall? This would be about a two foot horizontal run, then vertical. If not, can I run them at, say, 45 degrees to reach the wall?

Thanks much.

Ray

My home was constructed with a Zoeller sump in the concrete basement floor, tied to 4 inch and 2 inch PVC stubs several feet away. The builder also provided a 2" vent pipe through the attic. It is intended for a powder room; I intend to install just a washtub.

My plan is to cap the 4" drain at the floor, tie the washtub drain into the 2" PVC pipe and install an automatic Zoeller pump in the sump. (Wiring for the pump has been done.) The house sanitary discharge pipe is about five feet above the floor; there is a 2" vertical extension into which I can tie the pump discharge. (I have photos but cannot find the link for adding it here.)

My questions:

The sump in the floor is directly in front of the main breaker box. The pump discharge pipe will exit vertically from the sump and hinder access to the breaker box.
1. Can I run the pump discharge pipe horizontally for two feet along the floor, to reach the wall, then diagonally (vertically and horizontally) up the wall to reach the main sanitary discharge connection? (Total run about fifteen feet, 8-9 foot lift.)
2. The discharge connection is a 2" vertical stub, 20" high off of the main sanitary drain. Do I need a vent connection at the top of this discharge pipe where the sump discharge will connect?

The builder-supplied vent connection is in the ceiling but 10 horizontal feet away from the sump and 15 horizontal feet away from the discharge connection.
3. If I need a discharge vent connection as in question #2, can I tie that vent into the vent pipe from the sump tank?
4. What are the incline rules for horizontal runs of vent lines?

Thanks for the help!

Ray

Ray again, I found the attachment link in the reply window.

Attached are two pictures, one shows the sump tank in the floor, under the breaker boxes, with the main sanitary discharge line just visible on the left.

The second picture shows more of the main discharge line, including the 2" vertical stub for the pump discharge connection.

Note: The mountain icon, which says "insert image", asks for the URL for my image. I'm not familiar with that approach so I used the attachments link.

Ray

[hkstroud]

You need a sewage ejection pump. Available at home centers.

[Milo Dolezal]

See the link: Zoeller Corporation... Use pump: M267 Zoeller ( for sewer ejector )

Home Depot does not carry quality pumps. Zoeller brand is the best.

[massplumber2008]

RAY...

I'm with Milo on the choice of pump. I've been installing zoeller pumps for decades and have never had any major issues as long as the plumber/homeowner didn't pull on the pump by using the electrical cord... ;) I would not recommend any other pump, in fact!

In terms of the piping, I would use 45s to offset the piping as needed. Be sure to secure the piping on the discharge pipe to the wall above and below the check valve using hangers made for this. I use 2" F&M split rings, 3/8" F&M plates and 3/8" threaded rod for best job...see pictures.

Read all instructions and don't forget to drill the 3/16" (I think) hole in the discharge pipe (below cover) as directed to prevent air-lock of the pipe. The instruction manual will explain in more detail.

If you go to the site Milo posted it will give complete installation instructions online!

Let us know if you have more questions...

MARK

[Milo Dolezal]

I am with agreement with Mark and his last post... I share same experiences with this brand...

Yes, you can run discharge and vent pipes "horizontally" - but keep them as much up-slope as possible. Use 45s where ever you can to reach highest point, then, make the final transition from vertical to horizontal with 90 Ell. Make sure pipes are properly attached so they don't make "banging" noise when pump stops pumping. Also, don't forget to install Check Valve(s) as needed.

Let us know how you did... Good Luck... Milo

[ReubenRooter4u]

That's Right... You Know Your Pumps.. Hehe