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Wow... I know that neutering can be messed up but I've never known anyone who has a dog that isn't 'fully neutered' I'd be sticking the vet for all the puppy food and vaccinations!! |
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 Originally Posted by shazamataz
What he did was more of a vasectomy then a neuter. He didn't remove the entire package, he just cut the "wires" but he didn't do it right. I'm not for backyard breeding, you know I'm not, but this poor guy took all the precautions and still ended up with a litter. But, had this not happened we wouldn't have our Indy. As soon as the pups were weaned Nala was spayed. Sadly, she got hit by a car less then a year after the pups were born. :( |
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Aww... sorry to hear that Alty :( |
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Yeah same here, poor thing :( At least you have your little Indy as a memory. Did your friend keep any of the puppies? |
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Originally Posted by Unknown008
She was found in a junk yard along with her brother. Our friends neighbor had gone there to dump some garbage, and low and behold he found two little black pups. The vet guessed that they were around 4 weeks old at the time. They were starved, nearly dead. The neighbor took one, our friend took the other. It was touch and go for a long time. He got up every 2 hours to feed her from a bottle, spent a lot of money on vet bills, and she made it, so did her brother. She was living on borrowed time for the moment she was born. She was never completely healthy though, always sickly. If our friend had realized that she was pregnant sooner her would have aborted the pups, it took too much out of her. The two years she was alive was more then anyone expected and she gave us our Indy. :) RIP Nala. |
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That makes me so angry! I know that accidents happen but if your dog has puppies that you don't want or can't look after take them to the shelter not dump them in the garbage... poor thing :( |
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Originally Posted by shazamataz
I have videos of her after the puppies were born. Our friend had to put her and the puppies in a kennel for feeding time, otherwise she wouldn't nurse them. She was way to young for puppies. Our friend felt so guilty that she got pregnant, but he did everything right, it was just a fluke, or fate. He was waiting until she was at least a year old to spay her because of her poor health. The vet had recommended not even doing the procedure because she was so sickly. After the pups though, he felt he had to. She couldn't have tolerated another pregnancy, and he wasn't taking any chances. She was such a sweetie, quite the mixture, mainly black lab but tiny. Ahh, memories. |
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Sasha, I don't know if you are still reading the responses to your question and admittedly haven't read this entire thread so don't know what happened with your dog but please be warned, breeding is complicated, expensive and VERY hard work. It can also be heartbreaking. Before even considering it you need to research many things such as... are there many of your breed of dog available to rescue? It would be wrong to produce more puppies if many existing of that breed are looking for homes. Do you have an experienced breeder you can use as a mentor? You WILL need this... do you have the money for the appropriate pre mating tests such as hip scores and eye tests and to feed/worm/advertise the puppies and any vets bills you may incure? When you have a litter you can't really go out for at least 9 weeks, you need to be there to keep an eye on your pups, feed them four times a day (first feed at 6 am), continually clean up their mess and wipe them down, socialise them etc. Then you have the stress of all the people who want to buy your puppies who would not make suitable owners and the heartache of letting them go to the people who would. For years afterward you will have the owners ringing or e-mailing you for advice with their various problems with their dog which can be time consuming and worrying and you may be in a position where you have to take back one of the litter because the new owner can't keep it. If you bring a puppy into the world you are responsible for it even after its sold. It can be a very rewarding experience but should be thought about very very carefully first with all the information you can get about what doing it responsibly involves. |
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Had to spread the rep sajjw but you are exactly right, well said :) |
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No worry Shaz! :) |
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I breed and show my dogs as well. It is a very extensive process and costs money. You should only be breeding to better the breed and to create a better conformation dog. Good breeders always keep a puppy from a litter to show. That is the purpose. I have a litter once every two years. My pups are only sold on a spay/ neuter contract unless the are going to show. Then they are put on a show contract.Why are you breeding just to breed? There are tons of dogs in shelters who were a result of what you are doing! You need to really look into the diseases that male could have and testing that if that other male doesn't have could leave your female sterile or create unhealthy pups. My sister bought an american pit bull two years ago. She looked into the breeder and visited where the puppies were and the parents. She thought she did everything she could. After coming home for only two days it was in the vet. It had hereditary mange and parvo!! The breeder is breeding dogs with mange and three of her pups were at a vet for parvo as well. Don't breed your dogs because someone likes it! I agree with shazamataz. Good breeders spend the time and money to get great dogs. They don't breed for the money! |
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You're a show person greatdanelover? Welcome to the club :D I have pretty much the same values as you when it comes to breeding... As does my mum... but she has only ever made one post on this forum as she got too angry reading some of the questions :rolleyes: |
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Originally Posted by shazamataz
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Originally Posted by greatdanelover3
I love your post, well said and so true. This is what we've been fighting for for a very long time. None of us has a problem with a legitimate breeder breeding their dogs, but it's never about money, in fact, most breeders spend more money ensuring that they have healthy pups then the price they charge for those pups. It's all about furthering the breed and ensuring the quality of the breed. We'd love to see pictures of your dogs, we're picture fiends. |
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Originally Posted by Altenweg
Mum wasn't impressed, she gave her a blunt 'no, take it to the vet idiot' answer and never came back. Yes, we LOVE pictures! |
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The brindle great dane is Hercules, he actually just survived parvo, a result of my breeding, The red/black german shepherd is Chocolate, he is also a result of my breeding, the black/tan shepherd his chocolates brother demon, same litter, (I kept two out of this gorgeous litter, they are both 4months here) the dachshunds is cocoa she is almost to her championship, she also has 22 champions in her 5 generation pedigree, A dabney is my Harlequin, I got her as an adult, still working in the ring with her.
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My personal favourite would have to be Hercules (He is a very nice looking Dane!! ) but they are all gorgeous :) |
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Thank you, he is my other child lol! |
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I'll have a proper look at the Shepherds later... just had a bad run in with one so me and them are not on the best terms :) While we are sharing I'll shove mine in there haha This my mums dane... it's a fairly old photo, he was only about 8 months old there... (I think you can see my purty car in the background haha) |
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LOL he is gorgoues! |
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