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Apr 23, 2009, 03:31 PM
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Judgmental pharmacists
There is a growing problem in the U.S. these days with judgmental, moralistic pharmacists who are refusing to prescribe birth control pills to women. Many states have so called "concience clauses" that allow them to refuse to give prescriptions that violate their religious or personal beliefs. There have even been cases where they held the prescriptions hostage and refused to transfer it elsewhere. I think this is outrageous. A pharmacists' job is to give prescriptions and it is not right for them to impose their views on other people. These holier than thou people should not become pharmacists. Many are hypocrites whose wives are on the pill but they won't give it to other women even if they are married and well over 18. This a great burden for people in small towns where they might only be one drugstore. There is also a double standard. I can't recall any incidents where a pharmacist refused to give Viagra prescriptions or condoms to men. States should pass laws forbidding this practice.
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Apr 23, 2009, 03:43 PM
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As far as I am concerned if they do not want to do the job they shouldn't have gotten into that line of work.
Just like a cashier that may be against porn and doesn't want to sell it should not be working in a store that has a
Shelf of porn magazines or videos.
Personally I believe that if God truly wants a baby to be born all the contraception in the world is not going to stop it.
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Apr 23, 2009, 04:43 PM
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Completely out of line and down right dangerous. I can't believe a pharmacist has any right whatsoever to deny a patient a prescribed drug. What a dangerous path they are heading down.
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Expert
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Apr 23, 2009, 04:52 PM
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First of course a pharmacist does not write a prescription, they merely fill it.
And this is a free market society, if their drug store does not wish to sell certain items there is no legal way to force a company to sell them.
If your local store only wanted to sell coke and not pespi, they have that right. So if you want a pespi, you go to where they sell it.
Over that to be honest I have never heard of birth control being a issue, the morning after pill, which is not birth control pills.
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Apr 23, 2009, 04:59 PM
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If the store policy is to not sell it then I can agree but if it is an individual pharmacist
And they with hold the prescription so that they can not get it filled elsewhere I do not agree with that.
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Apr 23, 2009, 05:04 PM
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When it comes to personal beliefs they should be kept personal.
However if I had a 14 year old daughter getting birth control or the morning after pill without my knowledge I would like to be informed.
When it comes to minors getting those pills, I'd have to agree to the 18+ rule.
That's just my opinion,
Sarah
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Apr 23, 2009, 05:04 PM
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A lot won't fill morning-after pills, but some even consider birth-control pills a form of early abortion and won't prescribe them. A man with tattoos was refused syringes for diabetes because the pharmacist assumed he was a drug addict and some won't stock AIDS medication because they believe all patients are gays or abuse drugs, which is not the case. This sets a dangerous precedent and could lead to all kinds of abuses if it is not stopped. A Tom Cruise Scientology type could refuse to fill anti-depressants, they could refuse high blood pressure or diabetes meds because they think only overweight, lazy people get them, also not true. In theory, a Jehovah's Witness could refuse to prescribe any medication. That sounds extreme, but that's what happens when you allow a slippery slope to develop.
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Ultra Member
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Apr 23, 2009, 05:06 PM
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Now that right there is being plain and flat out foolish.
Sarah
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Apr 24, 2009, 03:41 AM
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To my way of thinking it is up to the person who owns the store what gets sold. If the pharmacist owns the store then the pharmacist is in the right to decide which products the pharmacist will dispense.
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Apr 24, 2009, 04:51 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
To my way of thinking it is up to the person who owns the store what gets sold.
Hello tom:
To my way of thinking, it is up to the state who granted the store owner a license, what gets sold.
excon
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Apr 24, 2009, 05:09 AM
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I get regular migraines and take tablets that contain codeine in them... I went and bought these tablets from the same pharmachist twice in the span of probably 2 months and they refused me the second time I tried to buy them.
They are not prescription tablets and I'm not the only one in my family who uses them, this just encourages people to get a friend or family member to go get the drugs for them... not good practice at all...
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Apr 24, 2009, 05:15 AM
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So we're back to this discussion. Funny how when it comes to abortion, gay marriage, the pledge of allegiance, any number of pet issues on the left, the right to exercise one's conscience - "choice" - is untouchable. When it comes to prescribing or dispensing a drug that takes the life of a human and for the most part is not medically necessary, the only choice is it should be mandatory. How unbelievably hypocritical.
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Apr 24, 2009, 05:17 AM
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To my way of thinking, it is up to the state who granted the store owner a license, what gets sold.
No it is up to the State to tell the Pharmacist what MAY be sold . Not what MUST be sold.You can't sell or dispense what you don't stock.
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Apr 24, 2009, 05:22 AM
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The over 18 is another good point.
It should be store policy if they are or are not going to sell something so that for one it isn't a guessing game when you go to get your prescription filled. It doesn't make sense for you to have no idea until you get to the counter and see oh battleship Jane is working and I know she will not fill this.
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Apr 24, 2009, 05:25 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
No it is up to the State to tell the Pharmacist what MAY be sold . Not what MUST be sold.
Right. And apparently the state typically says cannabis isn't among those things. :D
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Ultra Member
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Apr 24, 2009, 05:27 AM
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The American Pharmacists Association (APhA) is inclined to recognize pharmacists' right not to fill a prescription as long as the patient's needs can be met by others, according to Susan Winckler, RPh, JD, vice president of policy and communications and staff counsel. The APhA suggests that in addition to referring patients to another pharmacist or drugstore, concerned pharmacists also consider practice settings where this issue is less likely to arise, or working with physicians or other pharmacists to establish alternative dispensing methods.
A pharmacist in a rural community, for example, might let physicians know what prescriptions he will not fill and suggest that they dispense the drugs themselves, if their state allows it. Or, he could refer patients to another pharmacist.
The APhA, the Academy of Managed Care Pharmacy, the American College of Clinical Pharmacy and the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists noted in a letter in the Legal Times that "pharmacists, like physicians and nurses, should not be required to engage in an activity to which they object."
That said, Winckler emphasized that the APhA opposes obstruction: “A pharmacist may step away from a prescription but shouldn't step in the way.”
When a Pharmacist Refuses To Fill a Prescription
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Apr 24, 2009, 05:30 AM
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I read in a state liquor magazine that absinthe is now legal in the USA and contrary to belief it has no halluicigentic properties.
I wonder what they *did* to it to be able to call it absinthe yet no hallucigens??
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Apr 24, 2009, 05:51 AM
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"That said, Winckler emphasized that the APhA opposes obstruction: “A pharmacist may step away from a prescription but shouldn't step in the way.”
That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Somebody tell me why that's unacceptable.
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Apr 24, 2009, 05:52 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
So we're back to this discussion. Funny how when it comes to abortion, gay marriage, the pledge of allegiance, any number of pet issues on the left, the right to exercise one's conscience - "choice" - is untouchable. When it comes to prescribing or dispensing a drug that takes the life of a human and for the most part is not medically necessary, the only choice is it should be mandatory. How unbelievably hypocritical.
What drugs are you talking about? They aren't getting heroin from a pharmacist.
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Apr 24, 2009, 05:57 AM
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Re absinthe:
None of the 3 herbs used in the distilling (Anise ,Fennel or wormwood)have any hallucinigenic properties and are available individually on the market. Maybe it is being sold pre-diluted ?
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