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    Apr 19, 2009, 02:58 PM
    220v hot wires
    I'm putting in a 220v, 4 prong socket for a range. I have 3 white cables coming out of the floor in metallic tubing, where it was connected to the old range. I know the common, but not which is the black or which is the red. Does it make a difference? If so, how do I find out? Thanks.

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    Apr 19, 2009, 03:34 PM
    No, it does not matter.
    What matters is that some hack used all white wires for hot conductors. I hope they were at least identified as hots.
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    Apr 19, 2009, 10:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by stanfortyman View Post
    No, it does not matter.
    What matters is that some hack used all white wires for hot conductors. I hope they were at least identified as hots.

    Maybe that's all he had on the truck.

    He was also out of No. 12, so he ran two No. 6's.
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    Apr 20, 2009, 04:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ohb0b View Post

    He was also out of No. 12, so he ran two No. 6's.
    I would hope he used #6 or #8. It's an electric range.

    He used all white conductors, not a violation but strange, and if they are not marked as the OP implies then it IS a violation of 210.15(C)
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    Apr 20, 2009, 06:16 PM

    If he used white conductors for hot in anything other than a cable assembly or flexible cord then he violated 200.7
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    Apr 20, 2009, 06:26 PM
    You're right Tev. I overlooked that one.
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    Apr 22, 2009, 02:04 AM

    I assume that since mdvo only mentioned there were three white wires coming out of the conduit that there is no ground wire. He needs to pull at least a #10 AWG ground wire (green, not white, this time) that is connected to the breaker panel neutral buss, or ground buss if it's feeding from a sub-panel. He also needs to remove the bonding jumper from the neutral lead connection to the frame of the appliance.

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