[earl237]

Left-wingers are a threat to the nation's security. They prefer to invent right-wing extremists and worry about the last 3 KKK members in the USA instead of focusing on real dangers like Islamic extremism and piracy.

[tomder55]

Right wing extremists

[tomder55]

Steve

Did you see Salon's take on Perry ? He's desperate so he is appealing to the fringe.
Rick Perry embraces the fringe - War Room - Salon.com

[tomder55]

Saph
DHS may or may not be a needed agency and fusion centers sharing data and information strikes me as a good thing.
If the Obama administration is distorting the intent then it is a real stretch to place blame in President Bush's lap. I read nothing in their mandate that criminalizes dissent. The document states that there is no actual threat of violence. But people who disagree with the administrations policies on enforcing immigration laws, economic bailouts, gun bans, trade agreements are domestic terrorists.
Further ;the audacity (that word from the title of his 2nd "autobiography" was prescient in predicting the course he would take once elected ) to finger returning vets is stomach turning . It lumps someone like Texas Governor Rick Perry (as well as Jindal ,Palin and Mark Sanford )into the same group as the white supremists.
They seem to fear returning vets and people who put on tri-cornered hats to protest excess taxation more than the perps who create man caused disasters.

If my reading The US Constitution, The Federalist Papers, Friedrich Hayek's The Road to Serfdom , Atlas Shrugged makes me an enemy of the State then perhaps Jefferson's claim about the thirsty liberty tree is accurate.

[speechlesstx]

Steve

Did you see Salon's take on Perry ? He's desperate so he is appealing to the fringe.
Rick Perry embraces the fringe - War Room - Salon.com

Except for calling us “the fringe” he’s right, Perry is the consummate campaigner and he clearly feels threatened by Kay, who is also suddenly rediscovering her conservatism. But, I’d love to get a guy like Koppelman and force him to live among us right-wing “fringe” extremists (citizens) in Texas for a while.

[excon]

Hello wingers:

I'm willing to watch your tea bag day with an open mind... And, if that's what it winds up being, fine... But, I'm going to keep my eye out for your fringe groups, and who's leading them.

Beck has been showing Nazi's marching... Bachmann is warning her constitutants to be ARMED. Limprod still wants Obama to fail... Somebody is telling the wingers that Obama is going confiscate their guns...

Now, I know you don't understand that that kind of talk riles up some of your off the wall wingnuts... But, the rest of us do.

excon

[tomder55]

Off subject... I saw Beck in passing when he was on CNN(I think) and thought him a bore . I have not watched him on FOX but he must've really changed his act if he is becoming this popular.

[speechlesstx]

Ex, who exactly is telling us that Obama is going to confiscate our guns? Beck? Bachmann? Limbaugh? O'Reilly? Hannity? Who?

Bachmann's statement, though a poor choice of words, was not literal. Do you think we right-wing extremists (citizens) are so stupid that we're going to hear something like that and go beserk? Please, gimme a break. We are just as appalled at the kind of "right-wing extremists" that ARE a threat as you are.

And like tom, I find Beck boring also, but were you (or anyone else that despised Bush) as appalled over Nazi imagery and accusations when he was president? I didn't think so.

But I am beginning to worry about you, in the first post you thought we were the chicken littles and in the second, you're sounding a little like one yourself.

[NeedKarma]

[speechlesstx]

Good timing, NK. Two of us have already called Beck boring. Is he supposed to be representing us?

[excon]

Hello again NK:

Thanks for that...

So, for you people who think video games and Hollywood movies cause violence, this doesn't??

Silly righty's..

excon

[excon]

Good timing, NK. Two of us have already called Beck boring. Is he supposed to be representing us?

Hello again, Steve:

You're missing the point... If the lefty's who issued the report you're complaining about knew the two of YOU, then they never would have done so...

But, the point is not about you. It's about your weird right wing brethren who LOVE Beck, and believe he's telling the truth...

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again NK:

Thanks for that....

So, for you people who think video games and Hollywood movies cause violence, this doesn't????

Silly righty's..

Ex, I love to play a little Halo before watching Terminator 2. Seems most of the arguments I hear about such come from "scientific" studies, not we "righty's." And we don't like science remember?

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

You're missing the point... If the lefty's who issued the report you're complaining about knew the two of YOU, then they never would have done so...

But, the point is not about you. It's about your weird right wing brethren who LOVE Beck, and believe he's telling the truth...

Well thanks, but my point remains. You know of course I live in an oasis of conservatism, so MOST of my friends are conservatives. I'm sure some of them even watch Beck, and you know what? They're all just people. We even have liberal friends.

[excon]

Hello again:

Here's some more from Salon, Glen Greenwald in particular:

"All of the enabling legislation underlying this Surveillance State -- from the Patriot Act to the Military Commissions Act, from the various FISA "reforms" to massive increases in domestic "counter-Terrorism" programs -- are the spawns of the very right-wing movement that today is petrified that this is all being directed at them.

When you cheer on a Surveillance State, you have no grounds to complain when it turns its eyes on you. If you create a massive and wildly empowered domestic surveillance apparatus, it's going to monitor and investigate domestic political activity. That's its nature.

I'd love to know how many of the participants in today's right-wing self-victim orgy uttered a peep of protest about any of this, from 2005."

excon

[tomder55]

I will repeat my reply to Saph

DHS may or may not be a needed agency and fusion centers sharing data and information strikes me as a good thing.
If the Obama administration is distorting the intent then it is a real stretch to place blame in President Bush's lap. I read nothing in their mandate that criminalizes dissent. The document states that there is no actual threat of violence. But people who disagree with the administrations policies on enforcing immigration laws, economic bailouts, gun bans, trade agreements are domestic terrorists.

Further ;the audacity (that word from the title of his 2nd "autobiography" was prescient in predicting the course he would take once elected ) to finger returning vets is stomach turning . It lumps someone like Texas Governor Rick Perry (as well as Jindal ,Palin and Mark Sanford )into the same group as the white supremists.
They seem to fear returning vets and people who put on tri-cornered hats to protest excess taxation more than the perps who create man caused disasters. (foreign terrorists who attack from inside the country )

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

If the report from Homeland Security had targeted growing left-wing extremist activity, would you be protesting, or would you be saying, RIGHT ON?

You don't have to answer.

excon

[tomder55]

Yeah actually I do .

Here is a part of the report :

Rightwing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning.

(as if it is inevidible that right wingers will begin their preparations )

Rhetoric such as calls for revolution and hate speech from the Radical Left has been over the top for many decades. The most I have done is call them moonbats . I have not called for their arrest detention or even survaillance . I have limited my concerns to vigilance against Jihadist plotting to murder inside the country .

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, tom:

If the report from Homeland Security had targeted growing left-wing extremist activity, would you be protesting, or would you be saying, RIGHT ON?

You don't have to answer.

I'm not tom, but my question is if that were the case, would the media jump on the story? Or how about, how many congressmen would immediately demand an investigation and call for Bush's head to roll?

[spitvenom]

Maybe if some of the crazy righty's (not all of you are crazy) didn't drive around with this on your cars maybe we wouldn't be looking at you as a threat.