[lavanyaa]

I want to know whether allah see 's partiality over his creations


The que is due to if you find people who disobey him are well ,healthy,wealthy,happy but the followers faces a lot of problems etc


The human being born on same time etc faces different life styles ,one will be great and other will be down why it so??

[N0help4u]

They are living a lie believing that all is here and now. They live for the flesh and are shallow.
We live for the things not seen, we go through trials to strengthen us and grow us in a deeper relationship to God

[Dare81]

God never said life is going to be fair, Everyone has there trials and tribulation and they are going ti be judged according to that on the day of judgment.

[lavanyaa]

Yupe I do accept this but there are some situations in which u can't tolerate right??

[N0help4u]

I have been through years of hard times where many people treated me unfairly.
It is sort of like the movie 'Groundhog day' where it was the same old same old until they came to a realization. I feel like finally after 20some years of what is most easily summed up as 'bad luck' is only beginning to turn favorably to me. Even though I went through some really rotten things I feel that in the long run they were meant to happen for a purpose.
I know that for one it has made me stronger.

I often think about how so many people have it so easy that their biggest hardship in life is a broken designer fingernail. I think that if this life ever gets too bad with the economy and persecution and all. I doubt they would make it through. We have something they don't and they don't even get it.

[lavanyaa]

Hmmm your answer seems to be correct

[hmorrar]

It shocks me how most of answers do not touch the right subject

Does Allah sees partially? Of course not he has the supreme knowledge and wisdom
And for another saying Allah didn't say life will be fair? Allah has all the Justice

My friend, living healthy and wealthy is not directly related to obaying or disobaying Allah. Allah is God for all, muslims and non muslims, he provides water and food for all, he is the most merciful. So Allah gives everyone what is best for him, he will give all signs to lead them to the truth, and even muslims will be challenged for faith.

So for non believers God will give them signs to lead them, it can be sickness, it can be good health, it can be money... and for believers it will be challenges as

29:2 DO PEOPLE THINK that on their [mere] saying, “We have attained to faith”, they will be left to themselves, and will not be put to a test?

And for non believers and believers it can be punishment of sickness, or poorness, or... etc! So you can never know which is which, you must trust God's justice and be thankful for everything as you know it is for your own good whatever happens for you!

[Peaceful1]

Indeed Allah is All-Powerful (Al-`Aziz) and He is able to do all things (Allahu 'ala kuli shayin qadir). The Quran has mentioned this hundreds of times. It is also mentioned in the Quran that Allah is the Creator and He is the Best Creator. Glory be to Allah, the best Creator. (Al-Mu'minoon: 14)
But then the question comes why do pain and sufferings exist in the world. We find sickness, old age and death. We see things that are ugly, people who are insane and foolish. There are storms, earthquakes, floods, draught and famine. We also see people commit sins, show disloyalty, unfaithfulness, greed and insincerity. We see people commit rapes, murders; they fight and make wars. We know all these and many more problems. There are evils caused by human beings and there are natural disasters. There are suffering for individuals and there are those that involve a large number of people.

But we also know that this is not the whole story. Besides all these negative things, we also see beauty, health, prosperity, life, birth, wisdom, intelligence, growth and progress. We also see goodness among people, faith, sincerity, charity, love and the spirit of sacrifice. We also see a lot of virtue and piety. It is wrong to see one side of the coin and not to see the other side. Any philosophy that concentrates on one aspect of the creation and denies or ignores the other side is partially true and partial truths are no truth at all.

It is also the fact that the element of good is more in the creation than the element of evil. We all see that there are more people who are healthy than those who are sick. There are more that eat well than those who starve.

There are more that lead decent life than those who commit crimes. Goodness is the rule and evil is the exception. Virtue is the norm and sin is the aberration. Generally trees bear fruits, the flowers bloom, the winds move smoothly.

But then the question is why does Allah allow these exceptions to the rules?

Let us ask this question to understand Allah's ways in His creation. The Quran tells us that good, evil and whatever happens in this world happens by Allah's Will (mashiat Allah). Only Allah knows fully His Will. We finite beings cannot grasp fully His infinite Will and Wisdom. He runs His universe the way He deems fit. The Quran tells us that Allah is Wise and everything that Allah does is right, just, good and fair. We must submit and surrender to His Will. The Quran has not given us all the details about Allah's Will, but it has enlightened us with the guidance that is useful and sufficient for us. There are several points that we should keep in our mind to understand this issue:

1. First of all, Allah did not make this world a permanent world. This is a temporary world and everything here has a time limit. When its times comes it will die, come to an end and finish. Neither the good things of this world are forever, nor the bad things eternal. We are here for a short time and we are being tested. Those who will pass this test will find an eternal world that is perfect and permanent. Those who will fail this test shall see the evil consequences of their sins and corruption.

2. Allah has placed a physical law and a moral law in this universe. Allah allows suffering to occur when one or more of these laws are broken. The physical law is based on cause and effect. Sickness comes if one does not take care of ones health or is exposed to infections. A car accident occurs when one is not alert, or drives in a careless manner, or if the cars are not checked, roads and freeways are not made and kept in right shape, or the traffic laws are not right or not properly enforced. Study of causes and effects is very important to facilitate safeguards. Even here we should keep in mind that Allah often saves us and He does not let us suffer from every negligence. How many times it happens that we are not careful and still we reach safely to our destinations. The way people drive in some cities, it is a miracle that more accidents do not happen and more people do not suffer. Allah says:


(Allah) Most Gracious! It is He Who has taught the Quran. He has created man: He has taught him speech (and Intelligence). The sun and the moon follow courses (exactly) computed; and the herbs and the trees both (alike) bow in adoration. And the Firmament has He raised high, and He has set up the Balance (of Justice), in order that you may not transgress (due) balance. So establish weight with justice and fall not short in the balance. It is He Who has spread out the earth for (His) creatures."
(Ar-Rahman:1-10)

The way we exceed the measures set by Allah and violate His laws of "cause and effect" is incredible. It is really the mercy of Allah that we are saved. Strictly speaking, the question should not be why does Allah allow suffering, but how much Allah protects us and saves us all the time in spite of our violations and negligence. The Quran says:

"If Allah were to punish people according to what they deserve, He would not leave on the back of the (earth) a single living creature: but He gives them respite for a stated Term: when their Term expires, verily Allah has in His sight all His servants."
(Fatir:45)


But sometimes Allah does punish people because of their violations of His laws whether they are physical or moral. The Quran tells us that many nations and communities were destroyed because of their sinful lifestyles:


If they treat thy (mission) as false, so did the Peoples before them (with their Prophets), the People of Noah, and Ad and Thamud. Those of Abraham and Lut; and the Companions of the Madyan people; and Moses was rejected (in the same way). But I granted respite to the Unbelievers, and (only) after that did I punish them: but how (terrible) was My rejection (of them)! How many populations have We destroyed, which were given to wrong-doing! They tumbled down on their roofs. And how many wells are lying idle and neglected, and castles lofty and well-built?" (Al-Hajj: 42-45)


3. Suffering can also be a test and trial for some people. Allah allows some people to suffer in order to test their patience and steadfastness. Even Allah's Prophets and Messengers were made to suffer. Prophet Ayyub is mentioned in the Quran as a Prophet who was very patient. Good people sometimes suffer but their sufferings heal others and bring goodness to their communities. People learn lessons from their good examples. Martyrs die for their faith, soldiers give their lives for their nations and this brings liberation and freedom for their people.

[lavanyaa]

It shocks me how most of answers do not touch the right subject

does Allah sees partially? of course not he has the supreme knowledge and wisdom
and for another saying Allah didn't say life will be fair? Allah has all the Justice

my friend, living healthy and wealthy is not directly related to obaying or disobaying Allah. Allah is God for all, muslims and non muslims, he provides water and food for all, he is the most merciful. So Allah gives everyone what is best for him, he will give all signs to lead them to the truth, and even muslims will be challanged for faith.

so for non believers God will give them signs to lead them, it can be sickness, it can be good health, it can be money ... and for believers it will be challenges as

29:2 DO PEOPLE THINK that on their [mere] saying, “We have attained to faith”, they will be left to themselves, and will not be put to a test?

and for non believers and believers it can be punishment of sickness, or poorness, or ... etc! so you can never know which is which, you must trust God's justice and be thankful for everything as you know it is for your own good whatever happens for you!

Is tat sickness and non stop troubles are challenges or punishment for the belivers?

[hmorrar]

is tat sickness and non stop troubles are challenges or punishment for the belivers?

Excellent question my friend;
For believers of the one God and are muslims:

1) can be punishment for who are doing very big sins (Kabaer) such as drinking, adultary, leaving prayers or other, this can be a warning to make them come back

32:21 (Asad) However, ere [We condemn them to] that supreme suffering, We shall most certainly let them taste of a suffering closer at hand, [16] so that they might [repent and] mend their ways. [17]

2) can be warning signs for those with lots of sins but not all very big so they can be warned and recommitted

68:17 (Asad) [As for such sinners,] behold, We [but] try them [11] as We tried the owners of a certain garden who vowed that they would surely harvest its fruit on the morrow,
68:18 (Asad) and made no allowance [for the will of God]:
68:19 (Asad) whereupon a visitation for thy Sustainer came upon that [garden] while they were asleep
68:20 (Asad) so that by the morrow it became barren and bleak


3) for good believers can be for raising their level in heavens or cleansing their sins as God knows they will be patient on this suffering

2:155 (Asad) And most certainly shall We try you by means [125] of danger, and hunger, and loss of worldly goods, of lives and of [labour's] fruits. But give glad tidings unto those who are patient in adversity

فعن أنس بن مالك ـ عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم أنه قال: عِظم الجزاء، مع عظم البلاء، وإن الله إذا أحب قوماً ابتلاهم، فمن رضي فله الرضا، ومن سخط فله السخط

[lavanyaa]

excellent question my friend;
for believers of the one God and are muslims:

1) can be punishment for who are doing very big sins (Kabaer) such as drinking, adultary, leaving prayers or other, this can be a warning to make them come back

32:21 (Asad) However, ere [We condemn them to] that supreme suffering, We shall most certainly let them taste of a suffering closer at hand, [16] so that they might [repent and] mend their ways. [17]

2) can be warning signs for those with lots of sins but not all very big so they can be warned and recommitted

68:17 (Asad) [As for such sinners,] behold, We [but] try them [11] as We tried the owners of a certain garden who vowed that they would surely harvest its fruit on the morrow,
68:18 (Asad) and made no allowance [for the will of God]:
68:19 (Asad) whereupon a visitation for thy Sustainer came upon that [garden] while they were asleep
68:20 (Asad) so that by the morrow it became barren and bleak


3) for good believers can be for raising their level in heavens or cleansing their sins as God knows they will be patient on this suffering

2:155 (Asad) And most certainly shall We try you by means [125] of danger, and hunger, and loss of worldly goods, of lives and of [labour's] fruits. But give glad tidings unto those who are patient in adversity

فعن أنس بن مالك ـ عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم أنه قال: عِظم الجزاء، مع عظم البلاء، وإن الله إذا أحب قوماً ابتلاهم، فمن رضي فله الرضا، ومن سخط فله السخط

Fine thanks a lot for your beautiful answer!!

And one more thing the non belivers does everything or even for the name sake they say they are the belivers and the comedy is they all follow "THE WAY WHICH GOD DOESNT NEED TO follow by us"

But they ask what is difficulties?? Unfortunate?? What is failure?? Sick??
Etc goes on!

OK u may answer this that this is temporary world bt even though should show a light difference from the sinners and non sinners na??



I hope my que is right and doesn't make any non sense

[hmorrar]

but they ask wat is difficulties??? unfortunate????? wat is failure???? sick?????
etc goes on!!

Sorry couldn't get what you exactly meant, can you please explain it a bit more? :confused:

[lavanyaa]

Actually for an example in a class there will be a diffrenent way of treating by a faculities for the first rank student and a last... in the same way god ranks based on their behaviours am I right??


If so -- the non belivers who doesn't follow wha t are all god asked to do,they never faced any unfortunates, sick, failures etc got it??


You may answr it as this is a temporary world



But even in the class there is difference for a first ranker and a last ranker ,in the same way why god doesn't show a slight difference between belivers and non belivers??

[hmorrar]

actually for an example in a class there will be a diffrenent way of treating by a faculities for the first rank student and a last ... in the same way god ranks based on their behaviours am i right??????

if so -- the non belivers who doesnt follow wha t are all god asked to do,they never faced any unfortunates,,sick,,failures etc got it???

you may answr it as this is a temporary world

but even in the class there is difference for a first ranker and a last ranker ,in the same way why god doesnt show a slight difference between belivers and non belivers????

Not quite actually non believers they also can suffer pain, sadness... etc but for different reasons, for example it can be part of leading them to the right path, someone gets sick and get treated by a muslim doctor! I mean whatever there are endless probabilities

However also for non believers who commit bad things such as tyrants, or killing innocents... etc they will receive punishment just like the believers, but they will not be punished for not praying as they are not believers yet!

[lavanyaa]

But I think no one can answer this question unless god give us a good answer

[hmorrar]

but i think no one can answer this question unless god give us a good answer

What question? There is nothing that has no answer in Islam, if we don't know it I can ask a scholar Shiekh for you and get you the answer, please give me a clear question!

[lavanyaa]

Fine... I'm from a pure and orthodox hindu religion I'm not a pure born muslim but I got to know it fortunately and following


In some cases I feel that life goes as same as horoscopic way as the planets moves changes happens...


What about astrological view in muslim!


Is that sathan works on it

[hmorrar]

in some cases i feel that life goes as same as horoscopic way as the planets moves changes happens....
wat abt astrological view in muslim!

OK I think I can answer that inshalla and let me know if you need more info,

First of all, nothing in this universe happen because of planets or horoscopes or similar, this is absolute rubbish, things happen to us due to many reasons which some we are part of and others we are not, and in all cases nothing will happen or not happen to you unless God will let it to happen or not, and this is at his supereme knowledge and wisdom as nothing happens by chance or for no reason, for example me and you didn't meet here and talk by chance! So planets and other things has nothing to do with it

Logically speaking and you know what even before I converted to Islam I never believed in those rubbish thoughts, how can a planet affect my life? This is very stupid and nayeeve

Now if you want to touch on another subject such as magic and fortune tellers, we also in Islam know exactly how they operate and how to deal with them and their work :cool:

[lavanyaa]

OK i think i can answer that inshalla and let me know if you need more info,

first of all, nothing in this universe happen because of planets or horoscopes or similar, this is absolute rubbish, things happen to us due to many reasons which some we are part of and others we are not, and in all cases nothing will happen or not happen to you unless God will let it to happen or not, and this is at his supereme knowledge and wisdom as nothing happens by chance or for no reason, for example me and you didn't meet here and talk by chance! so planets and other things has nothing to do with it

logically speaking and you know what even before I converted to Islam I never believed in those rubbish thoughts, how can a planet affect my life? this is very stupid and nayeeve

now if you want to touch on another subject such as magic and fortune tellers, we also in Islam know exactly how they operate and how to deal with them and their work :cool:

Yupe you are right
I just asked you to answer those non belivers who asked me
Now I'm dare to answer them with logical point of view

[lavanyaa]

Can you just explain me about mallakuwahs .im not sure I don't know to call them in correct word but I hope they are messengers that god gave for everyone with one messenger who look over all our activities etc



Is it true??