[Jon09822]

Morning my friend, how are you this rainy night?

Clough, possibly we could remain on this thread..otherwise Jon will be bouncing back and forth between the two threads and that may be a little confusing, what do you think?:)

Night for now it's 1:30 am and I too have to get up at 6 am tomorrow.

Stringer

Yea, don't need to be any more confused that I already am, LOL.

[Jon09822]

I have never had someone ask for 'quarterly' cleaning Jon, never in over 30 years, strange.

You are correct, anything except nightly cleaning is additional. You can compensate by increasing your hours once you set your hourly rate, add more time to each phase. The longer the time span between the cleanings the more time as trash, dust, dirt, spots, etc accumulate more during this span.

I really want you to search out more 'regular cleaning' such as daily or even weekly. We do no clean anything less than 5 days per week, some are 6 and 7 days per week.

This work is less trouble, more profitable and actually easier...'sweat to reward'... this work is out there and is the norm...you have to set your mind to it.

Stringer

Yea, it was pretty strange to me too - again, it was just something that happened that was unexpected - didn't really go seeking out for the quarterly thing, lol. It would have been easier if it was weekly or monthly even --- hopefully, something could be worked out though -- Im probably stressing over this for nothing -- Im sure we can come to some agreement.

[Clough]

Originally Posted by Stringer
Morning my friend, how are you this rainy night?

Clough, possibly we could remain on this thread..otherwise Jon will be bouncing back and forth between the two threads and that may be a little confusing, what do you think?:)

Night for now it's 1:30 am and I too have to get up at 6 am tomorrow.

Stringer

Yea, don't need to be any more confused that I already am, LOL.

It could be in Home-Based Business just like this thread is. That way, it wouldn't be too confusing and hard to find. The thing is, that people do look at the title of the threads first to see if it's something in which they might be interested. If there's information on a thread that could be of benefit to them that doesn't happen to be about the original subject of the thread, then they might not see the information that could be helpful to them.

Stringer, do you remember that gal we were trying to help a number of months ago who kept starting new threads and jumping around in different forum topic areas of the site about her same issues? LOL!

Thanks!

[Stringer]

It could be in Home-Based Business just like this thread is. That way, it wouldn't be too confusing and hard to find. The thing is, that people do look at the title of the threads first to see if it's something in which they might be interested. If there's information on a thread that could be of benefit to them that doesn't happen to be about the original subject of the thread, then they might not see the information that could be helpful to them.

Stringer, do you remember that gal we were trying to help a number of months ago who kept starting new threads and jumping around in different forum topic areas of the site about her same issues? LOL!

Thanks!

You know, you are absolutely right, good point Cloug; Home Based Business about Business Advertising.

Thanks,

Stringer

[Jon09822]

Well, here is the update. I called her today and explained the whole cleaning deal with her - explained about it only being done quarterly and that it would be more to maintain, as opposed to doing it once a week or even once a month. She sounded like she understood where I was coming from - and I gave her a quote for $275.00 - she said that sounded good ----- now, do you think that is a fair price?

I again asked her if she wanted the windows done, which from what I was under the impression she only wanted the inside done, however, in speaking with her today - she mentioned she wanted the outside done as well ---

Honestly, Im definitely not comfortable with how this all played out - I wish it would of just stuck to the whole apartment cleanings - but, this is where I am right now. Do you think that is a fair price?

[Stringer]

How many hours of your labor did you figure in for this quarterly cleaning Jon?

How high off the ground are these windows and is this included in your $275.00 price.

This is what I was trying to tell you... the sweat to reward in this situation has a very low rating in my book. I have found over the years that these kind of jobs are also the ones that have more than their share of problems and require more than usual amounts of your time than what you are getting in return (period), 'squeaking wheel'. Go for 3-4-5 days per week or even weekly, much better return in all phases.

As far as "is this a good price", I don't have the time presently to go back and research the thread now, sorry. Please give me the total square footage again AND how many hours you figured including these windows inside and out and I will get back.

Sorry Jon I am expecting a conference call in a minute or so...

Stringer

[Jon09822]

How many hours of your labor did you figure in for this quarterly cleaning Jon?

How high off the ground are these windows and is this included in your $275.00 price.

This is what I was trying to tell you...the sweat to reward in this situation has a very low rating in my book. I have found over the years that these kind of jobs are also the ones that have more than their share of problems and require more than usual amounts of your time than what you are getting in return (period), 'squeaking wheel'. Go for 3-4-5 days per week or even weekly, much better return in all phases.

As far as "is this a good price", I don't have the time presently to go back and research the thread now, sorry. Please give me the total square footage again AND how many hours you figured including these windows inside and out and I will get back.

Sorry Jon I am expecting a conference call in a minute or so....

Stringer

There are a total of 15 windows. Two are larger windows which will need a ladder and the other ones are the regular windows top and bottom slide windows. The sq. ft is approx 2700 sq ft. This is the total price for windows, dusting, vacuuming and mopping everything, the gym, office, all gym equipment, two bathrooms, all blinds dusted, computer lab, etc...

I did 20.00 per hour for labor - I do feel though that this is a low price - however, I will be doing the work on this one - PLUS again, keep in mind, that Im in this to get more business to do the apartments as well with this complex.

[Stringer]

There are a total of 15 windows. Two are larger windows which will need a ladder and the other ones are the regular windows top and bottom slide windows. The sq. ft is approx 2700 sq ft. This is the total price for windows, dusting, vacuuming and mopping everything, the gym, office, all gym equipment, two bathrooms, all blinds dusted, computer lab, etc.......

I did 20.00 per hour for labor - I do feel though that this is a low price - however, I will be doing the work on this one - PLUS again, keep in mind, that Im in this to get more business to do the apartments as well with this complex.

I understand Jon, but please remember that ALL the individual jobs must stand on their own, always. In the future, for example you could possibly lose a few good profit jobs and be left with the ones that are less desirable, not a good thing. Remember when you are pricing that yes, it is understandable to price with the intention for potential, but 'profit is never an ugly word.' The market will bear what is required.

Well, did you ask her when she will respond with a date to start? Never ask a question where the answer can be 'yes or no.' Did she give you her budget?

So, if I am correct you used about 11 or 12 hours as your basis at $20.00 / hour, which includes everything?

How are you going to control customer satisfaction? What about security, how will you enter the building if it is locked or alarmed? And what is expected of you to secure the building?

Also, if you and Clough have started the other thread, please 'link' me to it, thanks.

Stringer

[Jon09822]

I understand Jon, but please remember that ALL the individual jobs must stand on their own, always. In the future, for example you could possibly lose a few good profit jobs and be left with the ones that are less desirable, not a good thing. Remember when you are pricing that yes, it is understandable to price with the intention for potential, but 'profit is never an ugly word.' The market will bear what is required.

I am in total agreement with you that all jobs stand on their own. That was my whole original point. I understand that this is a separate entity and needs to be handled as such, however, I wanted to give 'fair' estimate due to this not being the only entity being cleaned on the property. I wanted to give them a break so to speak. Again, the whole 'quarterly' thing is what threw me for a loop to begin with.


Well, did you ask her when she will respond with a date to start? Never ask a question where the answer can be 'yes or no.' Did she give you her budget?

That is what I forgot to mention earlier. In speaking with her this morning, I did bring up the whole budget topic and she stated that she really didnt have a budget to go on - Also, I only spoke to her this morning - I have to do the actual proposal and take it to her still.


So, if I am correct you used about 11 or 12 hours as your basis at $20.00 / hour, which includes everything?

I just took what I thought the amount of hours that it would take to do the job each time. I figure it will take about 2 to 2.5 hours to complete everything. Then I did the 2600 sq ft @ .09 per sq ft.

How are you going to control customer satisfaction? What about security, how will you enter the building if it is locked or alarmed? And what is expected of you to secure the building?

Please, again, understand - I am still learning about commercial property. I am able to do houses and apartments all day long, however, as was stated earlier, this was something that was tossed at me when inquiring about doing the apartments - this was definitely unexpected - which is why Im here.


Also, if you and Clough have started the other thread, please 'link' me to it, thanks.

The new thread hasnt been started as of yet. I have some things to do and perhaps later will start that one. I need to go back and see how to do it - I guess just start a new topic in this section. Thanks for your help



Stringer

Thanks for your help. I was excited at first when she asked me to do this, however, it has stressed me more than excited me at this point. lol.

[Stringer]

Yep, I am sorry to have hit you with so much at one time Jon. I love what I do and get excited and I take a project and run with it. And at the same time try to cover items that may keep people from making costly mistakes.

Sometimes I am probably guilty of thinking in a larger capacity than is required.

If you have any particular questions please just ask them and I will respond as best as I can.

Thanks,

Stringer

[Jon09822]

Yep, I am sorry to have hit you with so much at one time Jon. I love what I do and get excited and I take a project and run with it. And at the same time try to cover items that may keep people from making costly mistakes.

Sometimes I am probably guilty of thinking in a larger capacity than is required.

If you have any particular questions please just ask them and I will respond as best as I can.

Thanks,

Stringer

Oh I appreciate all of your advice and assistance. Im open to learning all I can - what better way to get it from those who are already doing it, so, thank you!

[Stringer]

Good, then just ask away as you need to.

Stringer

[Clough]

Hey, Stringer!

New thread started by Jon09822 concerning advertising can be found via clicking on the following link.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/home-b...se-334164.html

I've been somewhat "out of touch" on this site because I've been house and dog-sitting since last Friday night. Will be back in my own home late tomorrow night.

Thanks!

[Stringer]

Hey, Stringer!

New thread started by Jon09822 concerning advertising can be found via clicking on the following link.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/home-b...se-334164.html

I've been somewhat "out of touch" on this site because I've been house and dog-sitting since last Friday night. Will be back in my own home late tomorrow night.

Thanks!

Thanks Clough.