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Fr_Chuck · Mar 15, 2009, 07:21 AM

I could agure on the best translation but that is for another thread, The real issue is there is no "one book" that is what man has done, each writing is their own book, and we have put them into one book, Each writing into itself was discussed and voted on and approved. Not for one book but on the validity of that writing.

Akoue · Mar 15, 2009, 10:36 AM

Thank you Fr_Chuck for trying to get things back on topic.

Please note everyone that the OP asks not why you've chosen to use one translation or another (or many translations). I'm not asking about translations at all. I am asking why you have chosen to use the canon of Scripture that you have. Given that there isn't one universally agreed upon canon of Biblical texts, what has led you to prefer one canon over the others?

Wondergirl · Mar 15, 2009, 11:46 AM

I would guess many Protestants know only of the canon that contains 66 books. Until I went to college, I had never heard that there were other books that had been discarded along the way.

savedsinner7 · Mar 15, 2009, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by JoeT777

How do you know there aren't 132 books, or only 33 books? Who validates the Bible for you? If your response is the Bible, where in the Bible does it validate itself?

JoeT

Hebrews 4:12.

arcura · Mar 15, 2009, 03:45 PM

Akoue,
I did give my reason for the bibles I use and it WAS THAT I believe they were the most accurate. That is my reason for which bible as the OP asks.
So you see that the best most accurate translation does fit the topic in my case.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

450donn · Mar 15, 2009, 04:56 PM

Does it really matter which version of the Bible you read? As long as you are reading and understand the word of God what difference does it make?
Answer N O N E!!

Akoue · Mar 15, 2009, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by 450donn

Does it really matter which version of the Bible you read? As long as you are reading and understand the word of God what difference does it make?
Answer N O N E !!!!

But that's just it. Which canon is the word of God? Suppose your canon doesn't include the book of Tobit. Would you say that someone else, whose Bible does contain Tobit, is reading the word of God when she reads Tobit? She thinks so. But a lot of people don't.

But I don't want to get too far into that because I worry that it will degenerate into mudslinging. That's why I'm asking the less ambitious question: Why did you choose the canon of Scripture that you use. The Bible itself never gives a list of canonical books, so each person must, presumably, make a decision for him- or herself regarding which canon they accept as the whole of God's word.

I'm just looking to learn more about why people have chosen the Bible, the canon, that they use--since there are so many different ones.

gromitt82 · Mar 16, 2009, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Akoue

The canon of the New Testament was not settled upon until the Council of Nicaea in the year 325. This is the canon recognized by nearly all Christians the world over.

I am not asking why you favor a particular translation over others, but rather why you use the Biblical canon that you do.

I welcome answers from persons of all religious backgrounds.

Thank you.

As a RC I use the Bible that I have been told since I was a child that it was the one we Catholics use. I do not imply that ours is better than that of some other denomination. However, it is the one we have been using for centuries. Therefore, why should we be changing it?
On the other hand, when it comes to the NT (which, in my opinion is the most important part of the Bible) the differences among them are practically nonexistent.

arcura · Mar 16, 2009, 07:02 PM

gromitt82.
You made some very good points
Fred

JoeT777 · Mar 16, 2009, 08:15 PM

I like the King James Version for general reading. For study I like the New American Bible, Catholic Edition, because of the cross references between verses. For the final say in the English translation (as if I knew the difference) I use the Douay-Rheims. I have, over the past few years, been leaning more and more towards the Douay-Rheims.

JoeT

arcura · Mar 16, 2009, 09:08 PM

Joe,
The Douay-Rheims is one version I do not have.
If I get another bible it will be that one.
Fred

gromitt82 · Mar 17, 2009, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by JoeT777

I like the King James Version for general reading. For study I like the New American Bible, Catholic Edition, because of the cross references between verses. For the final say in the English translation (as if I knew the difference) I use the Douay-Rheims. I have, over the past few years, been leaning more and more towards the Douay-Rheims.

JoeT

And I suppose that as a conclusion you agree that differences are rather insignificant among these different texts, are they not?:)

JoeT777 · Mar 17, 2009, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by gromitt82

And I suppose that as a conclusion you agree that differences are rather insignificant among these different texts, are they not?:)

Taking into account the absence of the deuterocanonical books, I would agree that the textual differences are small. However, I do find the references and footnotes somewhat slanted towards a particular Protestant point of view and rarely use the KJ for study or research. While I can't point to the particular verse, I have noted, in at least one case, where the translation was particularly misleading causing doctrinal differences. I have an old St. Joseph bible; I think it out dates me by a century or two. I believe it's a Douay-Rheims translation. I'm afraid to use it anymore; the bindings are getting old and it's starting to fall apart. In its place I've been using NEW ADVENT BIBLE: Home

JoeT

sndbay · Mar 17, 2009, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Akoue

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Why did you choose the canon of Scripture that you use. The Bible itself never gives a list of canonical books, so each person must, presumably, make a decision for him- or herself regarding which canon they accept as the whole of God's word.

I'm just looking to learn more about why people have chosen the Bible, the canon, that they use--since there are so many different ones.

What I have found that offers understanding best is The Companion Bible by Bullinger..KJ

Which can also be cross referenced to the Strongs Concordance Hebrew/Greek text locked by The Massorah.

Colossians 2:2-3 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

Colossians 2:4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.

arcura · Mar 17, 2009, 09:35 PM

sndbay,
I most like the versions with the complete bible.
That means that they contain the deuterocanonical books.
There is much of great value in them.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

gromitt82 · Mar 18, 2009, 03:02 AM

Absolutely!:):)