[starbuck8]

i like the name alona<333:)

Once again, please read before you answer! The dog has been named Bela! New people to the site, I beg you, please read!

[Ana52408]

Lol alona sounds nice but her name is bela :)

Please read posts before answering :P

[Alty]

At least your nice though, and i understand i see it from both perspectives. and i did reflect and i told myself i should of updated! but i didnt know till you told me! you know thats really nice what you do and everything, it is, just like starbuck. but guys another 15 year old would be cursing you guys out and telling you guys to f*** off or some really mean thing i wouldnt think of doing but some of you are already making fun of me (linnealand on my old thread) and ok understand i might not be as smart as you guys and im pretty sure you have alll made mistakes, and everything you tell me i keep telling myself theyre right. and its true but bela is in a good home i promise. she really is. i wouldnt do anything to harm a little fur baby...especially bela since she's already part of the family. so once again, none of you have had bad answers in this whole thread just some of you are loosing your patience but for what? im not doing anything wrong, it's not like i said i gave it to him and now the mom cooked it for dinner and it was yummy?! noo, bela is really taken care of and she's very smart and we all love and cherish her and her and her medication will be up to date. and i also appreciate the advice given for the scratching :)

Ana, trust me, I'm not always nice, I can be downright nasty when I have to be, but I really don't feel that I have to be with you. You have listened to what we said, and I respect that. :)

You do have to try and understand where we are coming from. I'm 38 years old, I've had every pet imaginable, guinea pigs, rabbits, dogs, cats, birds, fish, hamsters, you name it. Right now I have a small zoo in my house, 3 dogs, 4 rabbits, a bird and a fish. I understand the love people have for fur babies, heck, I sometimes think that I'm overdoing it. Most of my pets are rescues, all of my pets are spayed or neutered, except for the beagle puppy, he's only 5 months old, will be neutered next month.

I've never impulse adopted a fur baby. Every one of my fur, feather and fin babies where well thought out, researched and planned.

I've seen things that I don't wish on any other human being. I've been present on euthanasia day at the SPCA, helped the staff put down these poor animals just because someone wasn't responsible enough to provide the care they needed.

I've seen dogs that were left outdoors with cancerous growths on their bodies, no food, no water, no shelter in -30 degree celsius weather while their owners lived in the lap of luxury without a care in the world.

I've seen videos of animals that were euthanized but didn't die the first time, where thrown into the pile of other dead dogs, still alive, still breathing, terrified and alone among rotting flesh and decaying bodies.

I've seen videos of animals skinned alive, still breathing and left to die a horrible painful death, all because someone wants a fox fur coat.

I've seen it all and that's why I fight for animals. They don't have a voice, that's our job, to give them a voice, to stop the inhumane treatment of living, breathing, feeling creatures.

I've met dogs that have seen the worst that human beings have to offer, they've been beaten, abused, starved, kicked, and yet they still come up to human beings and lick their hands and ask for hugs.

You're 15, I don't wish for you to see the things I've seen, but you do have to understand that the world isn't all puppy hugs and fur babies, tails wagging and tongues licking. There's a whole world of abuse out there that many people aren't aware of, or turn a blind eye to. I choose to watch, to listen, to witness, because to turn my back on these animals isn't something I can do and live with myself afterwards.

I don't make a hug difference, but I do make a difference, and if I have to do it by yelling, screaming, getting mean, well, that's a price I'm willing to pay, if I get through to just one person it's worth it.

So, yes, we can be harsh, but it's not without reason. I don't think you're a bad person, I think you really do love Bela and all your other dogs, and I'm glad, but please try and understand where we are coming from.

We don't know you, you don't know us, but maybe what I've said will make you understand us a bit better, because I'm not the only one that feels this way about animals. Starby and Linny are animal advocates as well, perhaps, one day, you will be too. :)

[starbuck8]

Ana, I know you haven't seen the horrible things some of us have seen that makes us so passionate when we talk about dogs or other animals. Some people will say, well it's just one dog, or one animal!. when in fact it's not. Ana, I really think you have the capability and spunk to learn more, and go out there and be an advocate for dogs and the other animals you love.

Here's just an idea for you, and maybe Danny would like to do it too! Find your local shelter, and when you are taking Bela, or your other 4 dogs for a walk, stop by and take one of the shelter dogs with you! You've got a whole crowd anyway! Take them to the dog park if you have one, or to an open field where they can run and play, and feel like they are part of a pack! This will not only let them get their exercise, but then you will be doing something to help out a dog without a home. If you volunteer and show how much you care, you never know what opportunities will come your way. There are so many dogs in shelters that are just waiting for some fresh air and a romp in the field!

Maybe you'll even decide to be a vet, or someone that wants to make a difference by rescuing others and placing them into loving homes. There are so many different things you could do to help out. I think I recall that you mentioned that you may want to become a lawyer? Well, maybe you could focus your energy and career on animal rights! You might even want to go into humane law enforcement, or something along those lines. Just a thought, but I think if you put your mind to it, that you could do it.

EDIT:: Do not be taking the other shelter dogs home. Help them find a good home if you can, but you don't need to be taking in anymore at this point.

[Alty]

I agree Starby.

Ana, you have your whole life ahead of you, you could make a huge difference in the lives of animals. You obviously love fur babies, so think about it, you could change the world! :)

[linnealand]

Oh... I have to spread the rep! Alty, that was a deeply moving post. It gave me the chills! Ditto on the rep to you too, starby. Aw, you girls...

Okay, ana, I understand where you're coming from. You know, I had a high school sweetheart named Danny from when I was 14 until we left for college (he really loved dogs too), so I can totally identify with your intense feelings toward him. It's a unique time in your lives. I know how happy I still am to have had such a wonderful , stable and supportive boyfriend by my side during our teens! It really was a great experience for both of us.

Anyway, I think this might be my last post in this thread. I think you know what I wanted to say, and that's all I can do.

Here's where the problem set in for me. The sympathy I had earlier left me after I read that other thread. It was so over the top, it knocked me over. I can appreciate what you've said in your last posts, but I cannot tell a lie... I'm just not convinced in my heart that all of the right things were done. It was like pushing a square peg into a round hole. Maybe you were able to shove it in to fit, but... I don't know. I still feel like something very fishy went on along the way.

Here's the thing. What I can't recall reading was anything from you saying that you know that it's wrong to give a fur baby as a gift to anyone, let alone to the big crush of your teen years in a home where the mom did not want it, even saying that you'd do it anyway. What you said in that other thread was just awful. I don't know how you could have had that in you 2 weeks ago. I don't know how you convinced her. I still find it odd. If I knew you had learned from everyone telling you the same things on this subject, I might have felt differently. All I found were excuses and justifications. I just don't feel comfortable with this situation, no matter how it ends.

Honestly, I just love all of the good things you've added down the road to your previous posts. That's the way to take care of the pure bundles of love that make our families and lives so much better. I know I would not be the same person had I not grown up with animals from the day I was born. I'm sure you feel that, too!

I have no ill will toward you whatsoever. Quite the opposite! You are a very sweet girl. That's incredibly apparent. I love how much you are drawn to animals, and that says a lot about your heart and your character. I won't think of you in a bad way for the rest of your life. However, I get to cut myself some slack and be honest with my feelings here. I don't think it will do any good long term by sugar coating them now.

I wish you, Bela and the gang all the luck, health and love in the world. Take good care of her. I know you'll be watching out for her.

[Silverfoxkit]

I agree with starbuck about trying to involve local animal shelters in every day activities, but make sure bella has had all of her shots before you introduce her to too many dogs or places where dogs have been sick such as dog parks, pet smart, etc. It is too easy for a puppy to get sick and then at best you will have steeping vet bills. All of us here would hate for anything to happen to little Bella, and I'm sure you would to. I know what its like to lose a puppy and it may start with a simple walk in the park but it certainly doesn't end like one.

[Ana52408]

Of course! Well, I do community hours at a local pet store here in Florida and they get pups to put up for adoption almost everyday and our job is to take care of them and to play with them and to take them out for walks, and also I don't know if the whole US does silver knights in high school but it's a community service project which you have to either raise money or build something for the community and everybody does it for cancer, diabetes, autism, etc. but I thought I would go with a new idea and raise money for animals with out homes, and also animal abuse and such. I can host walks, and different events and I will have a good amount of money by my senior year. Then after all, I donate it to the humane society and all those animal foundations. I'm starting on it now and I'm so excited! Oh and alten, I do know where you guys are coming from and trust me I understand you guys fully. Yes you guys have been tough, but I know you guys don't do it to offend me, I know your doing it for a good cause. You all have excellent points, and oh alten, I've seen a couple video's about the dog's getting their skin ripped while alive because little ms. rich rich wants a fluffy coat and she doesn't want to wear a cozy cotton one! From the first second to the last, I cry because that is just so cruel and so sad, that's why my silver knights project is going to be based on all the fur animals and all the animals that don't have fur either :)

[Alty]

Ana, good for you, I hope that you raise a lot of money to help the poor animals that cannot voice their opinions, whose lives are in our hands, often cruel, uncaring hands.

My kids are 10 and 6, I've taken them both with me to the humane society, they've both seen the good and the bad that we human beings have to offer. I refuse to let them see the worst, they're too young, but one day, I hope that they too will fight for animal rights, as well as human rights.

I'm glad that Bela has found a good family, I wish you all the best. :)

[Ana52408]

Aww thank you! Don't worry that that isn't a bad thing for them, that teaches them a lot and they well learn and be as brilliant as their mommy with the animals :)


I'm going to post another thread now because I need to find a couple animal foundations, I know the humane society is a bigg one that one is great so I can donate!

[Alty]

I'm in Canada, we have many foundations here. There are a lot of "No kill" shelters, they're usually privately run, the people who house these animals pay most expenses out of their own pockets, or rely on the kindness of strangers and donations.

Do a search for your area, just Google dog shelters, or cat, bunny, whatever you want. You should get a list of foundations in your area.

Post the link to your new thread, I'll do my best to help. :)

[Ana52408]

That would be an awesome help! I'm trying my best to find local foundations down here in south Florida and stuff but here is the link to my new thread :)

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/a...ml#post1564049

[starbuck8]

Ana, I'm so glad you are doing what you are to help. One word of caution, and something that immediately jumped into my mind. This pet store where you walk the dogs? Where do they get the dogs? Are they selling them?

Many pet stores will claim that they are shelter dogs, when in fact they are from puppymills. I'm not saying that these dogs don't need love too, I'm just saying that if in fact they are getting them from mills or backyard breeders, anyone who supports their business is contributing to the problem.

One store in particular who claims to be selling rescued dogs that come from shelters, is Petland!. although there are many more. The only one I trust is PetSmart. I recently watched an undercover video, where Petland and others Pet Store chains were buying dogs from the mills, and they pups lived in disgusting surroundings. They were overcrowded in their cages, and were deprived of food and water. The place was filthy dirty. They were breeding the pups from the "breeder dogs" who were deformed. Some had no limbs, eyes, ears, etc.

So, I just saying that you should make sure you know for certain, where they are getting their puppies. Hopefully the place that you are helping at is not one of the pet stores that uses this practice.

I'm going to post a few links for you, where you can help a little. You can feed shelter dogs everyday, just with a click. Give me a few minutes and I'll have them for you.

[Ana52408]

Aww thanks! And no its petsmart don't worry :)

That's exactly where I do it and oh they come from families that can't keep them and people that just can't have them and stuff, don't worry I asked lol

I remember when I moved here from venezuela, I had to live in this little rented house and the owner after 3 weeks of us living there said we couldn't have dogs so me and my family begged and begged and he kept saying no so when we told him were moving out because were not getting rid of the dog he changed his mind right away!

[starbuck8]

Here they are, and everyone should sign up to receive notifications everyday. It only take a minute to click everyday, and you are feeding dogs and cats. Also, when you click on the first link, there are other places to click on where you can help with breast cancer, the rainforests, children, and litteracy.

www.theanimalrescuesite.com

Freekibble

[Silverfoxkit]

Sajjw, while socializing a puppy is very vital in its development you need to be smart about doing it! You have no way on knowing if all of the animals in public places have all been vaccinated and in a place such as a dog park it could be very easy to pick up something like parvo especially since its incubates for up to two weeks and a puppy can be hopping around one day and on its death bed the next. Proper socializing can come AFTER the puppy has had its shots.

[starbuck8]

Sajjw, while socializing a puppy is very vital in its development you need to be smart about doing it! You have no way on knowing if all of the animals in public places have all been vaccinated and in a place such as a dog park it could be very easy to pick up something like parvo especially since its incubates for up to two weeks and a puppy can be hopping around one day and on its death bed the next. Proper socializing can come AFTER the puppy has had its shots.

Exactly, and I was very glad that you pointed out what I failed to say when telling Ana to walk the other dogs with Bela. Also another thing I failed to point out when I wrote, is even if a puppy is up to date with all shots, doesn't mean it is 100% immune. So I will have to say that the puppies that Ana is walking, even at the pet store, it is probably not wise to take Bela along at this point. Let her build up some immunity before she is around other young pups, so they are all free and clear. That way there is much less risk of Bela contracting the parvovirus.

[Ryanpm]

Try naming it something that you guys call each other. Personally me and my wife ended up naming our dog pookie! Or just go with something cute like sugar.

[Alty]

Try naming it something that you guys call each other. Personally me and my wife ended up naming our dog pookie! Or just go with something cute like sugar.

The dog was named pages ago, it's Bela.

Welcome to AMHD, but please, read all posts in a thread before responding, otherwise you miss stuff that has already been discussed.

Thank you.

[Ana52408]

Thanks alty lol aww pookie is adorable!! I call him squishy but I think that's boy name :) lol I love bela though and nahh I won't want to risk getting bela in between dogs I don't know where they have been. I mean she is still a pup and of course I love to walk every one of them but bela loves to run and play chase and play with toys and she mends my heart when I'm with her :) the other dogs I get so happy when I see them enjoying my play time with them, but again I don't want to mix little bela with the other doggies, she's so cute! Lol oh and alty I read on your other post you have a zoo! Hehe I'm almost there! I have 4 dogs, 6 beautiful fishes, a conure (amazing bird), and of course now little bela but she's with my boyfriend :) but I still count her as my dog of course lol and now my family is saving up because we want a rainbow parrot, it's the bird I've always wanted and wow its beautifull!!