[Ana52408]

guys... that was an old thread... before getting the dog... I SAT DOWN AND TALKED TO BOTH HIS PARENTS! I just can't delete the threads... so pleaseeeee... everyone calm down lol I was about to cry reading all this... I really made sure it was OK trust me... and she sometimes is mean to me in a disrespectful way not just normal and guys I wouldn't have gaven him the dog out of random... I had a talk with both the mom and dad! And ohh by the way... the last 3 dogs were the ones he had in her whole life and they all died after old age... they weren't put in shelters OK... and I have A LOT of spare time and in the weekends my boyfriend almost always comes over so I'm with my pets... im not kidding I love dogs and I wouldn't let anyone or anything harm them. ESPECIALLY the one I gave my boyfriend. His family isn't that low either you know she won't do that to the dog... she said yes before I got it you know I had a talk... that was just an old threat... ok? :)

[Alty]

We never thought you'd harm the dog Ana, but after reading that thread we did believe that you hadn't discussed this with the women who would have to house this dog, your boyfriends mom. You have to admit, that thread didn't bode well for you.

Maybe it's time to update that thread, let everyone know that you talked to his mom and dad and everything is okay, they've agreed to the dog. That way this won't happen again.

We can only base our answers on your posts, and I have to say, that one upset me, because it sounded like a spoiled little brat that just wanted her way and to hell with everyone else. We can't see you face to face, we can only read what you write and go off that when responding.

I'm glad you cleared this up. :)

[Ana52408]

By the way, I'm sure not calling all any of you names or anything similar so keep the "ignorant, and brash" , etc. to yourself please because I didn't make a wrong action OK? OK. And I'm not disrespecting anybody here and I really appreciate alllll the info and I super understand all of you but I'm 15 and I bet half of you and 20 something or 30 something and like alten said, she was 15 once. And every one of you guys were too. We all make stupid decisions in life and I did not just make one. I just want to say to slow down with the name calling, I'm not calling anybody rude names you know? Sorry and thanks...

[Ana52408]

We never thought you'd harm the dog Ana, but after reading that thread we did believe that you hadn't discussed this with the women who would have to house this dog, your boyfriends mom. You have to admit, that thread didn't bode well for you.

Maybe it's time to update that thread, let everyone know that you talked to his mom and dad and everything is okay, they've agreed to the dog. That way this won't happen again.

We can only base our answers on your posts, and I have to say, that one upset me, because it sounded like a spoiled little brat that just wanted her way and to hell with everyone else. We can't see you face to face, we can only read what you write and go off that when responding.

I'm glad you cleared this up. :)

I didn't know you can update! See I just learned something new. I really didn't know. Sorry for the lack of info.

[starbuck8]

Ana, we just had to assume that this was the situation from your other thread. That thread isn't really all that old. It's less than 2 weeks. Ago honey! Also, only 5 days before you posted this, and you've only had Bela for 5 days. Why did Danny's Mom change her mind so quickly? Why do you like her all of a sudden? Do you wonder why we came to the conclusions that we did? It's because we know that something doesn't sound right.

What we are trying to do here is make you think. Yes you are 15. Many here have been 15 several yrs. Ago, and many of us talking to you are female. We remember. We know what 15 is like! I also know that the reasoning part of your brain doesn't fully develop until you are in your 20's. This is why I said that you have the inability to see around corners. It wasn't a put down, it's just a medical fact. But you have to admit, that you were premeditating this, and you were being a little conniving with Danny, and especially the adults in this situation. It's beyond me why they would agree to this, but that was their decision.

We also know about puppy love, and I'm not talking about Bela! I'm talking about you and Danny. We've been there, we get it! Bela needs love of course, and I have no doubt in my mind that you love her. She's sweet and adorable! Who wouldn't want to love her. I've seen her sweet face. We are just trying to tell you that she needs so much more than kisses.

What it is that I really don't think you are understanding, is that it takes so much more than love. Love is usually the reason most people get a dog. But love can't supply the other things needed.

Let's just do a "for instance" here. Say you and Danny were at school, and Danny's Mom and Dad were working, or gone somewhere. Say it's Christmas time and they are out shopping! Bela gets out somehow and gets hit by a car, or attacked by another dog. Bela is still alive, but the vet says she is in very bad condition. The vet says that she will need surgery, have to stay at the clinic for a week, have some rehabilatation after this, then have to be on expensive medication, and you need to bring her back twice a week for her bandages to be changed, or for other problems that arose from the surgery. The vet tells you that the bill for this is going to be $3000. Do you think Danny's parents or yours will have that money?

Now that may seem like a pointless, ridiculous situation to you. But you know what? It's really not. Of course that is an extreme example, but it does happen. Do you know why I know that? I know that because I've had to pay those bills. I was very responsible, and did my best to make sure my dogs were taken care of, well trained, always on their leashes, and secure in the house or yard. In fact, I was with my dogs when these accidents happened, and they happened in the blink of an eye.

So you see, the point I am trying to make, is that you just never know what will happen in a split second. I don't think this is something that either You or Danny are prepared for, and the forethought was just not there!

Puppies can be just as big of a responsibility as a baby. There may be some differences, but nonetheless very expensive if you want her to live a long life and be happy and healthy.

I sure as hell didn't want to listen to people that were older than me when I was your age. Now I know I should have listened a little closer, because they aren't as stupid as we thought they were at that age. They say annoying things that piss you off, they are unreasonable in your eyes, and you think they just think they know it all. Do we know it all? Of course not! Do we remember being your age and getting pissed at our parents and other people trying to tell us what was a bad move? Hell you! But then we grew up and looked back and said, geez I wish I would've listened.

[Silverfoxkit]

Yes, we were all 15 once. The point in which everything is changing, and every little thing seems epic from little arguments to puppy love, of both sorts. The problem is that this isn't just about you anymore. The choices you made are effecting the lives of not only you, your boyfriend and his family, but of little Bella as well. We are only looking out for what's best for her first and foremost.
Try looking at this from an outside perspective and seeing what we saw. What would you think if you were an outside party reading this and you were the stranger? Throw out any additional information that was never posted and put yourself and your boyfriend aside. The dog is what matters here. Would you think Ana made a good choice?

[linnealand]

Ok why is everyone so negative. For the record, I have FOUR DOGS! I've been growing up with animals my whole life! I do community hours at pets smart. My boyfriend has had 1 dog and she recently died of cancer. He's been wanting a dog its not like I'm just going to so that if he doesn't even want one. He's mom knows and she said yes. He lives in a house and if we brake up I'm taking the dog back no matter what. 2nd, like i said, i have FOUR dogs i won't let a dog have a bad home.

i have two going to 3 family members that are vets, Im actually going to be either a vet or a lawyer in my future because i love animals, Me and my family rescued 4 dogs during hurrucan Katrina and Wilma and we found them ALL nice homes, and actually they are living the life now. Im not that much of an idiot to buy someone a dog out of random. I only asked for names not for opinions. He wants one, his familly wants one, and since I'm so attached to animals i have hooks ups of people that can give me one. Danny also have a cousin that is a vet. The dog will be fine because if i rescued 4 stray dogs that i didn't know where they've been and i didn't know anything about them and i didn't let them have a bad home, then why would i give this dog a bad home? My family NEVER EVER feeds the dogs human food, they eat their normal cracker dog food and they have NEVER EVER been sick that we've need to take them to the vet. They have all their daily check ups allllll the time etc. obviously you guys need to ask questions first. There something called ASSUMING which you guys are all doing. There is something called questions. Ask before answering something you don't know.

and thank you Charl. Im telling you, people now a days don't know how to ASK.

nahh she def. won't be looking out for the dog but she will have to buy the food which that won't be a problem. She's just stupid and annoying

okay, 5 days later does not constitute an old thread. On February 8th, his mom said definitely not. On February 13th, you were well on your way and looking to name the puppy you had already chosen. If you would like us to understand what you're talking about, could you please explain how Danny's mom flipped a full 180° in a matter of a few days? The probability of anyone doing something like that right in time for Valentine's Day is very, very slim.

I'm wondering what the conversation was like. This is how I'm imagining it: you tell her that you've already picked her out, and she's not that big (although Jack Russells are like big dogs in a little dog suit). Then you say that you'll take her back if they don't want her. How did you do it?

just because someone has owned dogs before does not mean that they have to own them ever again -- for whatever reason. Given the option, most people would like to be the ones to decide if they click with the dog, not have their friends and neighbors make that choice for them. I know you said the puppy came from your "best friend's dog's stomach." what does that mean? Just out of curiosity, although i don't want to get totally into this here, I'm wondering if she's a professional breeder? If not, why didn't you go to one, to a rescue, or to a shelter? As another aside, if you made his mom angry, she could actually harp on your imperfections while encouraging him to stop seeing you. Actually, since she is his mom, she could technically prohibit him from having any contact with you at all.

so, back to the story at hand, either you somehow managed to completely convince Danny's mom to have a total change of heart in her position, or you've lied about it so that you won't look bad here. I'm honestly wondering how much of what you wrote has been true, especially in the above post. By the way, i really don't believe anyone has written back to call you names. This is about growing up, a basic reality check, and a lot of people from all over the world being concerned for the best interest of that little dog.

okay, just one last question. Where are your parents in all of this?

[starbuck8]

I do have to agree with Linney. This story as taken so many twists and turns. The inconsistancies and loop de loops are flying through the air like flies heading right for the fly paper, and sooner or later you're stuck!

[linnealand]

Starby, alty and silverfoxkit: you have been writing so many excellent posts over the last few days that my agrees can't keep up. I just want you to know how much I appreciate every one of them. This site is a much more wonderful place because of you! My pup told me to tell you that dog around the world have been sending big lickity thanks for everything you've done. Well, he didn't tell me, but I know it to be true. ;)

Oh, and starby, I loved the analogy. Someone needs to put that in their signature, lol.

[starbuck8]

Right back at you Linney! Niki is seeing your puppy licks, and raising you 2 treats and a cuddle!

[linnealand]

Thanks starby! :D by the way, cute animation! One day you're going to have to tell me how to do that!

As an aside, sajjw, I put a lot energy into responding to what you wrote. There's no obligation, but it definitely would be nice if you would write back.

[jessica1989999]

Aww call it daisy :D that's a cute name, or sky, or star

[Ana52408]

OK you guys really have to stop assuming this dog isn't getting taken care of. First, she said no because she was undecided but my mom talked to her and I did too and I told her how danny would be so happy with her and she agreed and that she would love it if we surprise her with a cute fur baby.

1st-2 of my dogs have had glaucoma (I think that's how you spell it) there both poodles. Apperently they get that when getting old. You know how much the sugery was? 2000 DOLLARS EACH! My mom without even having to think about it said yes right away.

Danny's last dog had cancer. A few surgerys were done, and his mom paid Every ONE OF THEM. When the adults talked, my mom said that if this dog gets sick, will she pay for the dog? His mom agreed and told us the story about the dog with cancer. You guys have to understand that both our parents are involved with this as much as I am and he is and the dog is fine. She is happy she goes for walks everyday, she has her chew toys and her huge bed, she has cute little sweaters and everything, she has love and care, she has her shots up to date, she's having a wonderful life and you guys have to accept that. THIS IS ONE LESS FUR BABY IN THE SHELTER! She isn't going to one and she isn't going to travel like a foster dog house to house. She's already part of the family. His mom even has a picture of her in a frame at her job, his dad when he watches TV has the dog on his belly and they fall asleep together on the couch. Danny loves going outsie with her and playing with her and running around, he has a HUGE backyard where she can run and never stop, she isn't an outside dog( as she doesn't live outside she lives inside) she eats very healthy and she always seems so happy. BTW we go to different skools and we see each other at least 4 times a week. Sometimes more. All I know is that I made that family very happy with my present and they love her and cherish her like a child.

[starbuck8]

aww call it daisy :D thats a cute name, or sky, or star

Jessica, please read when you are answering questions here! The puppy has been named! Her name is Bela! Please read through!

[Ana52408]

Yeah forreal :) but I love daisy! Was about to name her that but I love bela<33

[Alty]

ok you guys really have to stop assuming this dog isnt getting taken care of. first, she said no because she was undecided but my mom talked to her and i did too and i told her how danny would be so happy with her and she agreed and that she would love it if we surprise her with a cute fur baby.

1st-2 of my dogs have had glaucoma (i think thats how you spell it) there both poodles. apperently they get that when getting old. You know how much the sugery was? 2000 DOLLARS EACH! my mom without even having to think about it said yes right away.

danny's last dog had cancer. a few surgerys were done, and his mom payed EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. when the adults talked, my mom said that if this dog gets sick, will she pay for the dog? His mom agreed and told us the story about the dog with cancer. you guys have to understand that both our parents are involved with this as much as i am and he is and the dog is fine. she is happy she goes for walks everyday, she has her chew toys and her huge bed, she has cute little sweaters and everything, she has love and care, she has her shots up to date, she's having a wonderful life and you guys have to accept that. THIS IS ONE LESS FUR BABY IN THE SHELTER! she isnt going to one and she isnt going to travel like a foster dog house to house. she's already part of the family. his mom even has a picture of her in a frame at her job, his dad when he watches tv has the dog on his belly and they fall asleep together on the couch. danny loves going outsie with her and playing with her and running around, he has a HUGE backyard where she can run and never stop, she isnt an outside dog( as she doesnt live outside she lives inside) she eats very healthy and she always seems soo happy. BTW we go to diffrent skools and we see eachother atleast 4 times a week. sometimes more. all i know is that i made that family very happy with my present and they love her and cherish her like a child.

Ana, once again, you have to understand, we can only base our answers on what you've told us, and this wasn't mentioned until now. I know that it seems like we're jumping down your throat but we're just thinking of Bela and what's best for her.

I truly hope that everything is settled, that Bela will be cared for in her new home, that Danny's mother will love her and pay for her needs.

I'm an advocate for dogs, that's what I do. I really don't care if I hurt people's feelings, if they aren't doing right by their dogs then I will rip them a new a$$, someone has to.

Remember at the beginning of the thread? We weren't too pleased with your choice, we did tell you it was a bad idea, but, when you came and asked a question about Bela's health didn't we come and give you advice? Didn't we do our best to help?

We don't dislike you Ana, not at all, we just want to make sure that Bela is going to a good home, a caring home, a home that will treat her the way she deserves to be treated. If that home is with you or with your boyfriends family, it doesn't matter, as long as she's cared for and loved.

I know it's hard to read that others think you made a mistake, but when we read your other post it was alarming, I was really upset. If you really have talked to Danny's mom and everything is settled, then great, but if not then you have to try and see it from our perspective.

We're here if you have any concerns.

Ana, if you want to try and understand our position a bit better go to some of the other dog threads, see what we deal with every day, maybe then you'll understand. Also, remember, we do this for free, in our spare time, that's how much we care about the dogs outs there. Okay. :)

[starbuck8]

Alty said it all! Ana, we are trying to make you understand what the consequences may be behind your decision honey. Have we gotten angry with you? Hell you! Have we wondered what the whole deal here is? You betcha! Will we come down on you when we think you need a wake up call? Yep! Do we have crystal balls? No! Will we help if there is a problem with Bela? ABSOLUTELY!

We are not the bad guys Ana. We are here to give advice, and as Alty pointed out, in our "free" time. We care about the animals. That is why we are here. If we have to get on your nerves to get our point across, we will. We answer questions like this everyday Ana. You have to give us some credit for sticking with you. You have to learn to swallow your lumps, and be open to learn things. There is no other way to go about it.

Like we've said, we've all been 15 at some point. We get it! But, sometimes you need to sit back and take a look. Things are not always going to go your way. People are not always going to be nice to you. It's up to you to know the right way to handle it, in order for it to make your life just a little easier. It will make for smoother sailing for you in the long run. :)

[leira]

I like the name alona<333:)

[Ana52408]

Ana, once again, you have to understand, we can only base our answers on what you've told us, and this wasn't mentioned until now. I know that it seems like we're jumping down your throat but we're just thinking of Bela and what's best for her.

I truly hope that everything is settled, that Bela will be cared for in her new home, that Danny's mother will love her and pay for her needs.

I'm an advocate for dogs, that's what I do. I really don't care if I hurt people's feelings, if they aren't doing right by their dogs then I will rip them a new a$$, someone has to.

Remember at the beginning of the thread? We weren't too pleased with your choice, we did tell you it was a bad idea, but, when you came and asked a question about Bela's health didn't we come and give you advice? Didn't we do our best to help?

We don't dislike you Ana, not at all, we just want to make sure that Bela is going to a good home, a caring home, a home that will treat her the way she deserves to be treated. If that home is with you or with your boyfriends family, it doesn't matter, as long as she's cared for and loved.

I know it's hard to read that others think you made a mistake, but when we read your other post it was alarming, I was really upset. If you really have talked to Danny's mom and everything is settled, then great, but if not then you have to try and see it from our perspective.

We're here if you have any concerns.

Ana, if you want to try and understand our position a bit better go to some of the other dog threads, see what we deal with every day, maybe then you'll understand. Also, remember, we do this for free, in our spare time, that's how much we care about the dogs outs there. Okay. :)

At least your nice though, and I understand I see it from both perspectives. And I did reflect and I told myself I should have updated! But I didn't know till you told me! You know that's really nice what you do and everything, it is, just like starbuck. But guys another 15 year old would be cursing you guys out and telling you guys to f*** off or some really mean thing I wouldn't think of doing but some of you are already making fun of me (linnealand on my old thread) and OK understand I might not be as smart as you guys and I'm pretty sure you have alll made mistakes, and everything you tell me I keep telling myself they're right. And its true but bela is in a good home I promise. She really is. I wouldn't do anything to harm a little fur baby... especially bela since she's already part of the family. So once again, none of you have had bad answers in this whole thread just some of you are losing your patience but for what? I'm not doing anything wrong, it's not like I said I gave it to him and now the mom cooked it for dinner and it was yummy? Noo, bela is really taken care of and she's very smart and we all love and cherish her and her and her medication will be up to date. And I also appreciate the advice given for the scratching :)

[Alty]

i like the name alona<333:)

Good for you, but the dog has already been named, Bela.

You really need to read all the posts before responding. Thank you.