Oh, you do have a challenge there! What comes to mind for me is when I had to retrain my lab pup all over again after being attacked one night by a stray dog just as she was finally learning to manage it too... sigh.
Forget the crate. It takes some time and discipline getting on the schedule with them so you can catch them before they go inside. You learn when they go -- after eating, after exercise, every morning first thing, last thing at night, etc. That way you can take them out when its time and slowly over time you can rearrange the schedule to suit you even -- in little steps. Its important to stay with them as they go outside so you can reward the wanted results immediately-- lots and lots of praise and/or treats for going outside. You'll feel foolish making such a fuss, but it works!
If you are sure a reprimand is needed for going inside, it has to be immediately as they begin to go and a quick slap of rolled up newspaper on a counter or table for getting attention with the command "No"-- never ever hit your dog with it either, okay? I prefer to escort them quickly outside, even if they don't go... they get an idea. You must monitor their whereabouts inside so you don't allow them time to do it not in your presence. If you find it later, too late for a reprimand.
Dogs generally are eager to please so if you make clear the good and bad dog behaviors in ways your dog understands, it will only be a short matter of time. If you don't have that kind of time to invest, then perhaps a local dog trainer would? It might not be as expensive as new carpeting every year, when you think about it.
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