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    #61

    Nov 30, 2008, 06:20 PM

    To transport the offender to the proper jurisdiction,if the person has warrants in another area?

    To not over burden the one locations whole force?
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    Dec 1, 2008, 06:57 AM

    Routine patrols where police observe erratic drivers are more effective at finding dangerous drunken drivers than checkpoints. Drivers using cell phones can report erratic driving and assist the police in this effort.
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    Dec 1, 2008, 03:42 PM

    Coming into this late - NYS DOES allow them. I worked as a cocktail waitress, sometimes drove home in costume, always in the early hours of the morning, had a hot car, not unusual to get stopped. I wasn't drinking so it didn't matter much to me, other than I didn't always feel like spending 5 minutes on the side of the road explaining myself. I never got hassled or treated unfairly and, yes, there were times I was asked to get out so they could look inside the car.

    I'll take things a step farther - and NY is starting to do this. If you are in an accident and you have been drinking beyond the legal limit your insurance disallows. Not fair to the people you've hit but that's what they are doing. Same if you are in a car with a driver who is above the limit and you are injured - no coverage.

    My Dad was killed by a drunk driver so I find it hard to be open minded on this subject, constitutional rights or not. My Dad lost his rights because some guy with a past record and a good Attorney was able to exercise his.
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    #64

    Dec 2, 2008, 07:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Routine patrols where police observe erratic drivers are more effective at finding dangerous drunken drivers than checkpoints. Drivers using cell phones can report erratic driving and assist the police in this effort.
    Exactly what I mean.
    Where I live the only people that go to the coraopolis bars are people from cory or moon so there are no other jurisdictions that others come from. People drink in their own town or South Side.
    And the main bar they go to is the Jailhouse saloon right next to the magistrates. Owned by constables and they catch the ones with warrants and the ones doing drug deals right there.
    Yet they keep going there.
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    Dec 2, 2008, 07:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    Exactly what I mean.
    Where I live the only people that go to the coraopolis bars are people from cory or moon so there are no other jurisdictions that others come from. People drink in their own town or South Side.
    and the main bar they go to is the Jailhouse saloon right next to the magistrates. Owned by constables and they catch the ones with warrants and the ones doing drug deals right there.
    Yet they keep going there.
    It's surprising they don't park right at the bottom of the hill up to mooncrest,come to think about it,I have seen them do that.
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    Dec 2, 2008, 08:00 PM

    LOL They have the checkpoint at the bottom of Thorn Run.
    One thing about mooncrest is there is only one road in and out so
    When they block the road to look for somebody they have to leave their car and go through the woods to get away.
    The Chez at the bottom of the hill got shut down cause of too many killings.
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    Dec 2, 2008, 08:04 PM

    Thankfully I didn't drink when I lived there,I did too many drugs to drink... LOL

    I guess they never opened that drive from the apartments into the 'crest then,huh?
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    Dec 2, 2008, 08:10 PM

    Nope. Just the road from the cemetery.
    Too many crack heads here now.
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    #69

    Dec 2, 2008, 08:22 PM

    I lived there when the bridge was blasted and the new bridge installed to Neville island,guess how long ago that was...
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    Dec 2, 2008, 08:47 PM
    Thanks for those links,they brought back a lot of memories.

    Egad,I hope there aren't any checkpoints out tonight,I could be stopped for swerving(powerful memories for sure.) :rolleyes:
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    #72

    Dec 6, 2008, 07:51 AM

    No problemo KBC

    Getting back to the check points.
    Here is another thing to think about.

    While checkpoints for drunk drivers are set up late at night while they know the highest percentage of drunk drivers will be out
    What about the fact that
    A higher percentage of accidents are caused by tired drivers that fall asleep at the wheel? They can be out any hour of the day or night.

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