[Ericarina]

My brother has been a liar his whole life. He claims he was in the military. He lies about his income and title, women he has been with. He tells everyone he has a BA but doesn't. The list goes on and on. WE were all hit as children and have delt with it in different ways. My brother got married 2 years ago after 2 dates with a woman with 2 children. Within 3 months they were separated and he has been living w/ my mother and youngest brother for almost 2 years now. He doesn't work, but pretends he does. My brother took all of his guns last year after repeatedly speaking about suiside. He continually talks about phisically harming and threatening people myself included. 2 days ago he went home to tell my brother that the cops were coming because he physically harmed our other brother, kicked his dog iin the stomach and threatened his wife when she stepped in. THe next day we learned that this never happened. He doesn't even think that we are all going to know that he was lying. We know he needs help. Again we took his guns away because my mother and younger brother are afraid of him. He just turned 40. He needs help--but won't go willingly. How can we help him?

[flybaby]

The next time he "pulls one of his tricks" you need to have him put in the hospital for evaluation. There should be enough. If you use key words like he has threatened to kill people. Threatened to kill himself. That is enough to get him in on a 3 day hold. A 51-50

Call the police before hand and discuss it with them. Your wording is important. He must be a danger to himself and/or others. If he says he is going to do something he is considered to be a danger. If you can back it up with things he has done in the past that is even better. For instance, he threatened you then hit you or wielded a knife or other weapon at you. Pointing out that you (collectively) were afraid enough to remove all weapons from his control.

[Fr_Chuck]

Contact your or his family doctor and see about having him admitted for evaluation. If you can record him saying he was going to kill himself, that may be enough to have the police do a forced commitment.

But I will be blunt, not the exact help you are talking about, but you need to evict him, get him out of the hosue for the mothers safety and the families safety.

While you need to care for his well being, unless he is forced to deal with it, often he may not deal with it either.

[Choux]

I think that if your family quits protecting him and giving him a place to live, he will be forced to take the consequences of his actions.

He's getting old now, and he is very anti-social. I don't think there is any chance of him changing, do you? Is he a heavy drinker? If h e ends up in jail, the judge could request he go to Alcoholics Anon. in order to get help. People have to be willing to change themselves. Change is all about doing it oneself.

Best wishes to your family... I hope you can find relief from this man who is making your lives miserable. :)