[starbuck8]

Starby, had to spread the rep but of course I agree. :)

Even here in Alberta, were english is the main language, we still have to have french on all our products. Of cours english is prominent, but the french is there.

Exactly!. and because of ONE province! But where are most of Canada's Politicians? ;)

[Alty]

It's sad, isn't it? But really, we're still very lucky. All in all, we live in a pretty wonderful country, it could be worse, a lot worse.

Everyone can find something they don't like about where they live, but for us, french on our products isn't really that bad. Except when the bottle is turned the wrong way and you accidentally wash your hair with conditioner instead of shampoo, been there, done that. ;)

[starbuck8]

It's sad, isn't it? But really, we're still very lucky. All in all, we live in a pretty wonderful country, it could be worse, alot worse.

Everyone can find something they don't like about where they live, but for us, french on our products isn't really that bad. Except when the bottle is turned the wrong way and you accidentally wash your hair with conditioner instead of shampoo, been there, done that. ;)

Did that yesterday... yep conditioner before shampoo... LOL!

[Alty]

That's not the worst thing I've done Starby. I once used mousse instead of shaving cream to shave my legs. I also used hair spray instead of deodorant once. Wiggy used Nair instead of shampoo (my fault, shouldn't have left it in the tub). ;)

Yup, it's sad, I really have to learn to read before I use something. :)

[starbuck8]

I once knew someone who used Preparation H, instead of toothpaste! DUH! Gives a whole new meaning to "it feels like someone sh*t in my mouth" LOL!

[JudyKayTee]

I once knew someone who used Preperation H, instead of toothpaste! DUH! Gives a whole new meaning to "it feels like someone sh*t in my mouth" LOL!!

Oh, too funny - my ex-husband (one of the many reasons he's my ex-husband) once used Brylcream, thinking it was toothpaste. (A) Who owns Brylcream? (B) Who confuses it with toothpaste?

This same man - who shall remain anonymous because I have no wish to be sued - once got up during the night, I heard him rummaging around in the refrigerator, he came back to bed some time later. In the AM he said he LOVED the soup but didn't bother making noodles so he just heated and drank it.

I hadn't made soup. It was pork gravy from the pork roast the night before.

BLECH!~

[Alty]

Mmmmmm, gravy. :)

Hee, hee, I've done all sorts of weird things, used all sorts of products that weren't for that specific use. I'm lucky to be alive! ;)

[JudyKayTee]

Mmmmmm, gravy. :)

Hee, hee, I've done all sorts of wierd things, used all sorts of products that weren't for that specific use. I'm lucky to be alive! ;)

Do you think that says something bad about my cooking if my own family can't tell my soup and gravy apart?

[Alty]

I think it means that you make really yummy gravy, maybe a bit watered down, but yummy! :)

[liz28]

You know what Sweetdee, this past weekend I went to my friend baby shower. She is from the upper class but is the most friendly, kind person you can ever meet. She never throws in nobody face about how much money she has, and she got plenty. Her other friends are different. When we got there we got all sorts of looks and I basically wanted to leave but I didn't. Fast forward me and my friend went half on a gift and brought her a stroller that cost $800 but got it for $550 on eBay because that's what she wanted, I was a little leary about spending that much money on a stroller but we felt she deserved it.When we presented our gift her friends gave us dirty looks because we split a gift. I continue with the night ignoring them and later my friend apolgize for her friend behavior.

I know you can't win them all but when I was there I felt out of place and I never felt that way. I am glad my friend isn't like that.

[JudyKayTee]

You know what Sweetdee, this past weekend I went to my friend baby shower. She is from the upper class but is the most friendly, kind person you can ever meet. She never throws in nobody face about how much money she has, and she got plenty. Her other friends are different. When we got there we got all sorts of looks and I basically wanted to leave but I didn't. Fast forward me and my friend went half on a gift and brought her a stroller that cost $800 but got it for $550 on ebay because that's what she wanted, I was a little leary about spending that much money on a stroller but we felt she deserved it.When we presented our gift her friends gave us dirty looks because we split a gift. I continue with the night ignoring them and later my friend apolgize for her friend behavior.

I know you can't win them all but when I was there I felt out of place and I never felt that way. I am glad my friend isn't like that.

After your rant about avoiding me, I find it, well, odd, that you show up here.

[Alty]

Liz, too many people focus on monetary things, outward appearances, clothes, pedigree, it's sad.

You are lucky to have such a good friend, too bad her other friends aren't as good as her.

[Alty]

After your rant about avoiding me, I find it, well, odd, that you show up here.

I was unaware of that.

Perhaps you're being stalked Judy. :eek:

[liz28]

Here we go again with Judy. If you read through the pages you would see I been answer this post. It has nothing to do with you. Can you stop bothering me and move on to someone else. I posted some before and now. Stop holding gruging from other threads and move on, enough is enough.

[kp2171]

After your rant about avoiding me, I find it, well, odd, that you show up here.

What does this have to do with the original post?

[SweetDee]

Hey you guys,

English is NOT offered as a second language. They have "language police" here to confirm that no english be applied ESPECIALLY in the workplace.

When you go for a job application, they never ask you if you speak English. English is a language they prefer to abolish. If you speak a little English it's fine, but not necessary... IN AN ENGLISH COUNTRYYYY!! IN CANADA... (can you imagine?? ).

Starbuck, you really get it sweety. It's so nice to hear that SOMEONE out in English Canada knows some of the politics, I do not expect any Americans to have an info really.

I suppose it would take an American and their American experiences w/ Mexicans to THINK there is some kind of possible commonality. Do you have language police saying that you must ONLY speak in Spanish? Do you have a whole government that was created WITHIN YOUR AMERICAN STATE, (a Mexican one, no less.. ), making sure the English have no schools or funding and catering only to the all mighty Mexicans? Can you imagine not being able to make a living because you cannot speak Spanish? How would you pay your bills if you are not bilingual?

The Quebecers want to Separate from Canada... like starby says, we're under the British rule... The French want to be a country within a country. Who does that? How do they expect the rest of English Canada to continue to like and respect them... because they do not! (Consequences!! ).

I speak French all day... you'd think I was a French person. I LOVE love love speaking it... I love languages in general. It would be great tho' if it were not demanded of me as A LAW.

You cannot imagine how it feels for people who live in an English country, (and moved here KNOWING it was English.. ) to be forced to have to speak French. Of all languages... I mean, the French are KNOWN for being rude even in Europe!

Then there is the other side of things... The grateful appreciation of the working class, (not all, but sometimes this happens.. ) when they see an Anglo trying to conform... and showing effort. They appreciate it, but by then it falls on deaf ears as the government is too hard and fast at work keeping the French and English from bonding in any way.

The government always rears it's "Seperatist" head and rallies the people into confirming their hatred. The English for feeling raped... the French for feeling hated in their own province. Their logo is, "If you don't like it...LEAVE!"

I wish I could. My husband works for an international company. He speaks in English all day only, thank goodness the man is not able to learn French, no matter how's he's tried. This company is owned by the Germans... Anyhow, until he retires he and I are here to stay... I wish the company would move to Ottawa at least! It's not THAT far from Montreal, only 2 hours or so... (Ottawa is the capital of Canada). I know they boast bilingualism, but they don't FORCE you to speak French there, it's just an asset...

Why are the French so mean?:confused::mad::eek::(

[Synnen]

No, it's not that they FORCE Spanish on anyone here.

I have, however, lived in a southern state (Texas). Try to find a low skills/no degree job down there without being bilingual. It's next to impossible.

We're an English speaking country that is, for the most part, trying to STOP what happened in Quebec from happening here. There are schools in CA where you MUST speak Spanish all day. There are a lot of companies all across the southwest that will hire you if you only speak Spanish, but will NOT hire you if you only speak English.

So maybe you're right, and it's NOT the same thing. But I kind of see it as the same thing, only we still have a chance to STOP it here.

[JudyKayTee]

No, it's not that they FORCE Spanish on anyone here.

I have, however, lived in a southern state (Texas). Try to find a low skills/no degree job down there without being bilingual. It's next to impossible.

We're an English speaking country that is, for the most part, trying to STOP what happened in Quebec from happening here. There are schools in CA where you MUST speak Spanish all day. There are a lot of companies all across the southwest that will hire you if you only speak Spanish, but will NOT hire you if you only speak English.

So maybe you're right, and it's NOT the same thing. But I kind of see it as the same thing, only we still have a chance to STOP it here.

I had to smile - my husband was a Doctor of Pharmacy, owned his own stores, previously was District Manager of "big box" Pharmacy. He decided - when he first got sick - that Texas would be a good climate and we were considering moving. Flew down, aced the interview, all was going very well. Second interview they asked him if he spoke Spanish, and he did not.

He was told he needed to be bilingual and so that was the end of that. The interviewer said they didn't put that in the head hunters info because it would sound like discrimination.

(And the person they hired WAS bilingual so it wasn't an excuse.)

[starbuck8]

Well in Quebec Judy, not only can you not get a job if you don't speak French, if you are an English speaking/reading citizen, you can't even do simple things like drive, if you can't read the road signs, or call 911 in an emergency, to get assistance.

Not to mention, that since Quebec and Ontario are neighbouring provinces, and the capital building is in Ontario, the political powers that be are most often from Quebec or Ontario. That is who hires the "language police", and who makes these discriminatory laws.

[Alty]

Starby, call me, miss you. Hi everyone! :)