[Alty]

No, no, no. You are a pragmatic, strong-minded German freulein who gets things done. (I know. My ancestors are from Hannover.)

Is that a nice way of saying, stubborn, pigheaded, lady? ;)

Thanks Wondergirl. :)

[arcura]

Altenweg,
Stubborn yes, but pig-headed NO!
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[Alty]

Altenweg,
Stubborn yes, but pig-headed NO!.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

:p

[Credendovidis]

Wondergirl to Altenweg : Post # 38 :

... You are a pragmatic, strong-minded German freulein who gets things done.

Pragmatic : yes.
Strong-minded : yes.
Fräulein : not exactly, but very attractive - for sure!!

:D:D:D:D:D

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[Fr_Chuck]

Ok, remember name calling, attacking others are not allowed even in discussion areas. Keep it on topic.

[simoneaugie]

It is interesting to me how non-Christians can get so incredibly offended by those "kind, tolerant Christians."

What is really confusing, and I may be naïve in the extreme, is why non-Christians carry a grudge. Apparently a grudge. For me it is fear of being controlled and told that I am wrong.

If a person has faith and belief in something, they are not wrong! They are human, and sane. Calling such a person nasty names is ridiculous. No, a discussion is not about one being right and the other wrong, that is a debate.

In Fred's OP he mentioned that only God can judge us. That's what I just said, so we agree. Sure, there are some areas where our philosophies differ. That makes for an interesting discussion.

Picking apart words to find a loophole to put another "in his place" is a waste of time, unless debate and ego satisfaction is all you're after.

[spyderglass]

"He that never changes his opinions, never corrects his mistakes, will never be wiser on the morrow than he is today."
Tryon Edwards

[Credendovidis]

Hello John, how is aton faring these days? Did he finish his movie? or did it finish him?

Why would I know that, JJD ?
Have you finally been kicked off by answerway?

:D

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[Alty]

Ok, remember name calling, attacking others are not allowed even in discussion areas. Keep it on topic.

Chuck, I called myself a name, and it's okay, really. I know I'm stubborn, and pigheaded, but I have to agree that I am not a Frauelein, as the definition is an unmarried young lady. I am a Frau, women, married. :)

I'm also sorry for straying off the topic. My bad. Hanging head in shame. Sorry. :o

[arcura]

In perhaps not the letter of but in the spirit of Christian integrity I welcome new member 3 Chord Elijah.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcura)

[arcura]

Altenweg,
Yes please back to the topic.
The questions are...
How many "Christians" that you know tell others that they are going to hell when God alone will be the judge on who goes where?
How many do you know who DO NOT practice Christian love as Jesus taught with both word and example?
Are there any who post here doing those things?
We all are sinners to one extent or the other so as Jesus says we all have some logs or foreign objects in our eye that needs to be taken care of before we charge others about the specks or foreign objects in their eyes.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[Alty]

How many "Christians" that you know tell others that they are going to hell when God alone will be the judge on who goes where?

Sadly, too many to count, and I gave up counting years ago.

How many do you know who DO NOT practice Christian love as Jesus taught with both word and example?

Again, too many. When I went to Catholic school, most of the Catholics I knew went to church, prayed for forgiveness and then went home to beat their wife, molest their kids, you name it. Those are the same "Christians" that told me I was going to hell, simply because I wasn't Catholic and didn't attend their church.

Are there any who post here doing those things?

There are, and sadly they stick out more than the good Christians do, because of their hateful ways and condescending attitude.

We all are sinners to one extent or the other so as Jesus says we all have some logs or foreign objects in our eye that needs to be taken care of before we charge others about the specks or foreign objects in their eyes.

I agree with 100%

Peace and kindness to you as well Fred. :)

[arcura]

I believe this fits well with the subject "Christian Integrity"
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A man was being tailgated by a stressed out woman on a busy boulevard.

Suddenly, the light turned yellow, just in front of him. He did the right thing, stopping at the crosswalk, even though he could have beaten the red light by accelerating through the intersection.

The tailgating woman was furious and honked her horn, screaming in frustration, as she missed her chance to get through the intersection, dropping her cell phone

As she was still in mid-rant, she heard a tap on her window and looked up into the face of a very serious police officer. The officer ordered her to exit her car with her hands up.

He took her to the police station where she was searched, fingerprinted, photographed, and placed in a holding cell. After a couple of hours, a policeman approached the cell and opened the door. She was escorted back to the booking desk whe re the arresting officer was waiting with her personal effects.

He said, 'I 'm very sorry for the mistake. You see, I pulled up behind your car while you were blowing your horn, flipping off the guy in front of you, and cussing a blue streak at him.' I noticed the 'What Would Jesus Do' bumper
Sticker, the 'Choose Life' license plate holder, the 'Follow Me to Sunday School' bumper sticker, and the chrome-plated Christian fish emblem on the trunk..

Naturally... I assumed you had stolen the car!'
Priceless!!
Fred

[Alty]

Wonderful story Fred, so true. :)

[Fr_Chuck]

Discussion, not chat, and no name calling, yes fred is correct, name calling will result in moderation.

[Credendovidis]

I like to go back to the topic, that is about "Christian integrity".

I wonder : many Christians here seem to be rather intolerant to deviating views.
However : I also note aggressive creationists who post about a 6000 year old universe, and who insist that "God" is the "Creator", and who attack every opposing view with creationist - unsupported - babble that claims to be scientific, but that is anything but scientific.

Very few Christians here dare to admit that as far as they are concerned they accept science and scientific findings (like evolution) as reality.

Just a very small group of religious fanatics "color" this religious discussion board with their creationists views. However these same fanatics seem to lack one of the basics of Christianity : love and forgiveness.

Now : how is that for "Christian integrity"??

:rolleyes:

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[Tj3]

I wonder : many Christians here seem to be rather intolerant to deviating views.
However : I also note aggressive creationists who post about a 6000 year old universe, and who insist that "God" is the "Creator", and who attack every opposing view with creationist - unsupported - babble that claims to be scientific, but that is anything but scientific.

John,

You have been presented with scientific evidence but many people on many boards but you won't look at it. On the other hand, you claimed that there is abundant OSE for evolution, and have been asked many many times by myself and others for that OSE for evolution, but every time failed to respond with the said evidence.

It is therefore a matter of differing faiths - ours in the one true God, and yours in evolution.

[Alty]

Scientific evidence, or scientific speculation? There is no evidence that God exists. The bible isn't proof, nor are the stories therein.

Sorry, I wish there was proof, but sadly, there isn't.

[Tj3]

Scientific evidence, or scientific speculation? There is no evidence that God exists. The bible isn't proof, nor are the stories therein.

Sorry, I wish there was proof, but sadly, there isn't.

Then, I am sorry to say, you have not looked at the evidence. Do you breathe? Can you see?

Can you provide the OSE for evolution that John has been unable to provide?

[Alty]

Yes I breathe, yes I see, where's your proof that God made that possible? The bible? That's not proof, it's a man written book, not a God written book.

Tj3, if you and I both witness an event, our accounts of that event will be very different, because we are human. Therefore, a book written by human beings, although possibly written about actual events, will not have the whole truth in it. That's just the way human beings are, fallible, not perfect. Therefore, the bible, in my opinion, is not accurate, as it was written by man.

I do believe in God, but I'm not sure that he made the world. I believe the scientific explanation for the creation of the world. God may have had a hand in it, but I don't think he worked alone. :)