[Emland]

There is a lot of information to wade through. I'm keeping an informal scorecard on a stenopad with the general overview first. Next, I'm going to find the votes that are important to me and check that out. A lot of good info can be found at ontheissues.org as well.

[NeedKarma]

And here Em: THOMAS (Library of Congress)

[tomder55]

Emland great site(onthe issues.org) . I use it regularly . Some trivia... Jesse Gordon used to be a Politics Board expert in the old Askme site.

[speechlesstx]

Sorry for getting here so late. Been away for a while. But I'm BaaaaaaaK!!!!!

Welcome back, Elliot... 'bout time. :D

[tomder55]

Yer not thinking being a senator is a full time position, are you??

Bingo . The only time the country is truly safe is when Congress is on break. At least they can do no harm that way.

[tomder55]

Wait till the story of Palin's extramarital affair breaks in a few days, folks.

Nice slander . Let me guess .Info from the Evita supporting owner of the National Enquirer... or more toilet paper innuendo and distortions by the Obama supporting Us Magazine?? No ;I was right the 1st time.

Like I said in another posting : Let the Borking begin.

[tomder55]

Organizing and other work experience

• 1983-1984 Writer/Researcher for Business International Corporation. Helped companies understand overseas markets in the “Financing Foreign Operations” service and wrote for the “Business International Money Report”

I need some research... I know he was editor of the Harvard Law Review and he claims to be a professor of law. But as far as I can tell he is not published except for his ghost written bios(both of whch I have now completed reading ). Can someone show me what legal essay in the Law review ,or other legal brief /Amicus curiae.. any legal scholarly writing he has published??

More experience being mayor of a hamlet? More experience being governor of a state that has more reindeer than people? Has about as many people as the state of Delaware?

And ONE of the Senators from Delaware is Joe Biden.

The difference being that Palin runs the state of Alaska and Biden is a lifer in the Senate ;getting his automatic reelection based on how much pork his son the lobbyist can deliver to the state. He is one of 100 Senators no matter how many important commitees he sits in .

The question between the 2 of them is judgement ,and clearly the sub-divison of Iraq that Biden floated throughout his campaign was the single dumbest policy proposal in the entire conflict.He has shown time and time again that he is just wrong on the issues of the day. He even voted against the 1st Gulf war .

[Emland]

Good one, NK. Thanks.

[speechlesstx]

Wow, newsflash... "Senator usually votes along party lines." You pick the Senator...

[speechlesstx]

It appears BDS is being overtaken by PDS - Palin Derangement Syndrome - as the latest trend in mental disorders.

[inthebox]

Potomac Watch - WSJ.com

Enter Mrs. Palin. The former mayor of Wasilla had been appointed by Mr. Murkowski in 2003 to the state oil and gas regulatory agency. She'd had the temerity to blow the whistle on fellow GOP Commissioner Randy Ruedrich for refusing to disclose energy dealings. Mr. Murkowski and GOP Attorney General Gregg Renkes closed ranks around Mr. Ruedrich—who also chaired the state GOP. Mrs. Palin resigned. Having thus offended the entire old boy network, she challenged the governor for his seat.

Mrs. Palin ran against the secret deal, and vowed to put the pipeline back out for competitive, transparent, bidding. She railed against cozy politics. Mr. Murkowski ran on his unpopular pipeline deal. The oil industry warned the state would never get its project without his leadership. Mrs. Palin walloped him in the primary and won office in late 2006. Around this time, news broke of a federal probe that would show oil executives had bribed lawmakers to support the Murkowski tax changes

She took on her own party / GOP. Against the guy who first appointed her.

She fought against coruption - and won



What Palin Really Did To the Oil Industry - WSJ.com

As a new governor in 2007, Mrs. Palin stepped in to address the fiscal crisis and restore accountability. Working with Democrats and Republicans alike, she chose a 25% profits tax. But in lean years the state reverts to a 10% gross revenue tax on legacy fields that do not require massive continuing inputs of new capital.

Relative to the old system, Mrs. Palin's plan -- called "Alaska's Clear and Equitable Share" (ACES) -- improves incentives for developing new resources. It ensures the state does well in boom times -- as it is doing now -- when oil prices are high. But it also hedges against low prices in the future by ensuring that oil companies exposed to commodity price swings don't face a crushing tax burden when commodity prices fall.



A direct share in oil profits for every citizen is the ultimate incentive for more drilling.

She did this for her state's citizens , imagine how helpful she would be to the country's citizens! :D

[Wondergirl]

imagine how helpful she would be to the country's citizens! :D

Just be glad you aren't a bear or a wolf, but, in any case, watch out for low-flying Cessnas.

[inthebox]

I'm glad I live in a country where a working mother of 5, can prove herself to the citizens she represents, fight against politically self interested establishment, believes in protecting the unborn, and be a contender against the -----


Typical politician that have law degree[s], or been in congress for 36 years, or have the MSM fawning over him as he visits Iraq for the first time in > 2 years, or have connections with known terrorists, or those who propose "solutions" that rely on increasing taxes and expanding government power.


Yes, I'm glad that to be a citizen in a country that respects a person's achievements based on merit. Not on gender or race.

[sGt HarDKorE]

I'm glad I live in a country where a working mother of 5, can prove herself to the citizens she represents, fight against politically self interested establishment, believes in protecting the unborn, and be a contender against the -----


typical politician that have law degree[s], or been in congress for 36 years, or have the MSM fawning over him as he visits Iraq for the first time in > 2 years, or have connections with known terrorists, or those who propose "solutions" that rely on increasing taxes and expanding government power.


Yes, I'm glad that to be a citizen in a country that respects a person's achievements based on merit. Not on gender or race.

Not saying raising a family isn't hard, but my dad and step mom raised 9 kids, and own a successful bussines, have fought against unfairness and such, butthat doesn't mean they would be good enough for VP. In fact if they were the VP, they would probably cause mass chaos.

Its not like I'm a parent, so maybe I'm just underthinking it, but being a parent doesn't means you know how to deal with foreign issues, war, inflation, etc...

[inthebox]

She is not only a parent.

She was a mayor, and is Govenor. :)

Look at it this way, Cheney and Rumsfeld have a tremendous amount of "experience,"
But look where that has gotten this country. :mad:

She is true change, someone outside the Washington beltway, outside the political classess who has accomplishments that a 36 year senator can't hold a candle to.

Biden Was Wrong On the Cold War - WSJ.com

[sGt HarDKorE]

Believe me, I'm not one of those "experience required" people. All of our bad presidents have had tons of experience, but it just comes down to their decisions. I don't know much about her so I don't argue against her yet..

She definitely seems to be a talented person, so we'll see what happens

[Wondergirl]

Yes, I'm glad that to be a citizen in a country that respects a person's achievements based on merit. Not on gender or race.

You must be a white male.

[Wondergirl]

She was a mayor, and is Govenor.

New bumper sticker:

Jesus was a Community Activist. Pontius Pilot was a Governor.

[tomder55]

And do you think Jesus would've threw his hat in the ring ? As I recall he said “My kingdom is not of this world".

Supporters of Zeus Obama often wonder why he gets ridiculed as being "the Messiah " even as they perpetrate that myth themselves.

[tomder55]

John Judis at New Republic points out that Obama told his community organizing mentor that he quit the job because the pay was too low . Obama told Kellman that he feared ending up destitute and unhappy like his dad. ‘He wanted to marry and have children, and to have a stable income’

Creation Myth
But he also admitted that the role of community organizer was an ineffective role .“you either had to be an elected official or be influential with elected officials.”Obama believed that politicians, not community organizers made history.

Obama was having doubts about community organizing. By the early fall of 1987–a little more than two years after he had come to Chicago — Obama had decided to apply to Harvard Law School. At some point thereafter, he began to explain his decision to friends and colleagues. The most revealing of these discussions are not reported in Dreams from My Father.
It was not just the walk he took with Kellman through Harvard’s campus. Obama also talked to Kruglik about his reasons for leaving Chicago. In their conversations, he described politics–and winning political office–as the most important step toward achieving change. And, instead of seeing [Mayor] Harold Washington as buffeted by forces beyond his control, he now aspired to be Washington.

To the ambitious Obama community organizing didn’t change history; power and leaders with charisma changed history.

Before he was done, Obama had rejected the guiding principles of community organizing: the elevation of self-interest over moral vision; the disdain for charismatic leaders and their movements; and the suspicion of politics itself.

Obama can deny it all he wants to ;but the principal reason he left "community organizing " was because it was a waste of time.