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    #81

    Sep 3, 2008, 06:18 AM
    When was the last time again that a chosen VP candidate had to replaced ?
    May this year again ? If I'm not mistaken it was the same party...

    :D ;) :p :rolleyes: :D

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    #82

    Sep 3, 2008, 06:55 AM
    1972 when candidate George McGovern had to replace Thomas Eagleton with Kennedy clan member Sergeant Shriver .
    After that Nixon replaced sitting VP Spiro Agnew with Gerald Ford. Agnew got caught up in Maryland politics where bribes were involved while he was the Governor there . He plead no contest to criminal charges of tax evasion and money laundering . But Nixon wanted to replace him before then and would've if John Connally (a Democrat ) had accepted the offer.

    Before that as I mentioned on another posting ,John C Calhoun resigned because the job did not have influence and power then.

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    Eagleton was forced to leave the McGovern team after it was revealed that he had received shock treatment for various symptoms of mental and physical fatigue . He had evidently not revealed the treatments to McGovern ,or if he did ,McGovern did not think it sufficiently important to dump Eagleton. McGovern initially proclaimed he supported Eagleton 1000% .The public seemed to agree .77 percent of the respondents in a Time poll said "Eagleton's medical record would not affect their vote."
    But the media pressure forced him to make the switch. MSM slimeball Jack Anderson wrote a vile false report that he had been arrested for drunk driving .A charge that Anderson later retracted after the damage was done.

    I do no know if it was warranted but McGovern's dumping him was not a sign of strength .
    Eagleton returned to the US Senate and served another 2 terms.
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    #83

    Sep 3, 2008, 09:08 AM
    This video is interesting (CNN):



    Rarely have I ever heard so many words used to say so little.
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    #84

    Sep 3, 2008, 09:22 AM
    Campell Brown gave Tucker Bound nowhere to swim. Republican apologists are drowning and this is a reoccurring pattern ever since Sarah Palin became the pick. Greta Van Susteren on the Fox network backed Lynn Swann (Republican ex-pro athlete now politician) into a corner so bad last night that she starting laughing at him, and he even smiled knowing his goose was cooked.
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    #85

    Sep 3, 2008, 09:56 AM
    Funny that the FOX network would have a show that isn't a mouthpiece for the Republicans eh ? Fox is biased and doesn't allow a slant on their network that isn't a Republican talking point... right ?

    Swan will run for Guv. In PA. again and win next time .That is unless the goons working for Chucky Schumer don't dumpster dive looking for his SS# like they did to Michael Steele.
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    #86

    Sep 3, 2008, 10:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by BABRAM
    but from even the most casual voter it's apparent that Sarah Palin was not aware of her daughter's extra curricular activity. That's not a sign of leadership or somebody that supposedly has an in charge type personality; a reformer. For heaven's sake she doesn't even know what the VP does on a day to day basis. Palin is in over her head thanks to the self-proclaimed maverick. Wow!
    That's a really large assumption, Bobby. I suppose the Palins should have had a ball and chain around Bristol's leg and fitted her with a chastity belt instead of having some kind of trust and faith in their daughter who is almost old enough to vote. Then you'd just complain that the Palins were way too overbearing and they should trust their daughter to make good decisions. Nice box you've put them in.
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    #87

    Sep 3, 2008, 10:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by BABRAM
    NK- Good point. Perhaps before the next embarrassing moment occurs, Sarah should get to know her daughter since they reside at the same residence. Reality is that Sarah Palin needs to be at home taking care of children (she even has a child with down syndrome). She's a bit naive and the last thing she needs to be doing is tagging along side the old white haired dude on the campaign trail.
    LOL, so now women aren't able to multitask and function in a man's world, they should just stay home where they belong? You guys have just set the women's movement back 50 years. But then, some of us have know all along it was never about empowering women, it was about empowering liberal women. If you aren't like Susan Reimer or Maureen Dowd you should go back to being a hockey mom and cooking and cleaning and waiting on your husband.
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    #88

    Sep 3, 2008, 10:30 AM
    Yup barefoot in the kitchen that's where Dems want their women and as I stated on the other posting ;if they have 5 children they should be looking for a government handout.
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    #89

    Sep 3, 2008, 10:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55
    yup barefoot in the kitchen that's where Dems want their women and as I stated on the other posting ;if they have 5 children they should be looking for a government handout.
    Spoken out of true ignorance.
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    #90

    Sep 3, 2008, 10:44 AM
    Just my observation at their reaction to a successful working mom. Or is there a double standard and only liberal women have the choice ?
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    #91

    Sep 3, 2008, 01:19 PM
    Hello fellows who used to think experience counted, but now don't:

    I think she's a fine example of a working mom. I think she's great. She just isn't qualified to be commander in chief.

    You certainly can't make the argument that she is, when you kept saying Obama isn't. Or, maybe you can. After all, she DID live near Russia. There you go.

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    #92

    Sep 3, 2008, 01:54 PM
    Ask any working mother how difficult it is to be mother and working and wife.

    That alone would make most women more quaified to be president than most men. :p


    Really, would we, the media etc. be asking these questions if she were male?

    The Palin's have 5 children : good for them. A generation or 2 ago this was not unusual.

    If your Judeo - Christian, you know children are a blessing. :)




    As to Bristol being pregnant at 17, that is her family's business. Obama has enough class to say that was off limits. :)


    I know that my adopted son was born to a 19yo mother who was not married at the time. Again, a blessing. :D
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    #93

    Sep 3, 2008, 01:55 PM
    All you lefties are scared to death of Sarah Palin. I've seen several presidential campaigns, and NEVER has there been so much interest in the vp of any party. All left wing guns are aimed at Palin, even stooping to attacking her daughter! What a bunch of creeps! That's going to backfire, you know.
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    #94

    Sep 3, 2008, 01:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon
    Hello fellows who used to think experience counted, but now don't:

    I think she's a fine example of a working mom. I think she's great. She just isn't qualified to be commander in chief.

    You certainly can't make the argument that she is, when you kept saying Obama isn't. Or, maybe you can. After all, she DID live near Russia. There ya go.

    excon
    Of course experience counts. How much executive experience does Obama or Biden have? The correct answer is NONE.
    How much foreign policy experience does Obama have? NONE.

    Maybe the Dems would be better off to reverse their ticket. It still wouldn't be good, but every little bit helps, right?
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    #95

    Sep 3, 2008, 01:58 PM
    Ex,

    I've never been against new blood, but I'd prefer someone that's actually accomplished something in the 2nd spot over someone that's accomplished nothing more than creating an image in the top spot.
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    #96

    Sep 3, 2008, 01:59 PM
    Can we just write in "none of the above" and start over?
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    #97

    Sep 3, 2008, 02:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Emland
    Can we just write in "none of the above" and start over?
    No need - you can pick this guy: Welcome | Bob Barr for President of the United States
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    #98

    Sep 3, 2008, 02:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jillianleab
    Only if you want to help Obama.
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    #99

    Sep 3, 2008, 02:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Galveston1
    Of course experienc counts. How much executive experience does Obama or Biden have? The correct answer is NONE.
    Hello Gal:

    Then we agree. She isn't qualified. Of course, McCain has none either. All right, then. Our choice is between four people not qualified to be president... Ain't it just grand?

    excon
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    #100

    Sep 3, 2008, 02:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon
    Hello Gal:

    Then we agree. She isn't qualified. Of course, McCain has none either. Alright, then. Our choice is between four people not qualified to be president.... Ain't it just grand?

    excon
    If you are going to quote me and then comment on my post, please be kind and use the full quote. Thanks.

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