[startover22]

Wondergirl, I promise I will, thank you
Skell, I promise I won't, thank you

[Wondergirl]

That's why in Libraryland we research every which way and even call the appropriate people to get to the truth of the matter, if it's even possible to get to the truth.

Tomder had said earlier in this thread,

As for foreign policy experience ;Alaska share borders with Canada and Putin's Russia . Clearly she already has as much ;if not more ,foreign policy experience as previous Governors who have become President like Carter ,Clintoon ,and GW Bush.

Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It's on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.
http://www.airdefenseartillery.com/o...rational.pdf
As governor of Alaska, Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. She's also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counterterrorism plans.

There's an awful lot to chew on there. I sure would have dug into researching those "facts" to verify them before I had posted them.

[speechlesstx]

And apparently it isn't going to work:
CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Palin booed for mentioning Hillary Clinton « - Blogs from CNN.com

First of all, I don't think the main reason he chose her was to get the Clinton vote. I'm sure that was part of it, but more so to get social conservatives behind him and it worked.

[NeedKarma]

First of all, I don't think the main reason he chose her was to get the Clinton vote. I'm sure that was part of it, but more so to get social conservatives behind him and it worked.

How can you say it worked when people haven't voted yet?

[BABRAM]

Bobby...you know nothing about me, not one iota. This sort of banter borders on slander and was absolutely not necessary from someone that I have followed in past posts and thought highly of and believe it or not had some respect for..........

I am not going to honor your defamation and hatchet job with a defense. This was completely uncalled for Bobby.....

You are entitled to form any opinions that you like about me or others, I don't form my opinions in the same manner, from the hip.

Thanks,

Stringer

You didn't shoot from the hip? Come on. This is not my first rodeo. If you think CNN is questionable and an unreliable source for news than provide one that you think is better. I'm up for that debate.

Your comment was so clearly demfamatory, insulting, and just plain ignorant! I also had respect for some of your commentary prior to this, but I truly have to say I have lost all respect. I believe you should get off of that high horse you are sitting on, and appologise. If anyone wants to know what is wrong with "America", it is this kind of behaviour, and assumptions about people they clearly know nothing about. That was nothing but a ludicrious, hateful statement, and should not be tolerated.

Well what a surprise! Just a suggestion, use the "Spell Check" that management provides you just right of the "Preview" button. I take it you don't like CNN either? I didn't know there was a fan club in Canada for Sean Hannity and Lisa Ingraham. Why is it only right in American politics when one side dishes it out and then not confronted? When I came to this discussion board eight months ago the Pubs were using the Dems as verbal dart boards, and still yet about seventy percent of the posts are initiated by Pubs with some snide angle or remark. Myself though... I don't turn the other cheek. BTW welcome to the board.

[BABRAM]

As for foreign policy experience ;Alaska share borders with Canada and Putin's Russia . Clearly she already has as much ;if not more ,foreign policy experience as previous Governors who have become President like Carter ,Clintoon ,and GW Bush.

Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It's on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.
http://www.airdefenseartillery.com/o...perational.pdf
As governor of Alaska, Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. She's also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counterterrorism plans.

Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country's defense. Given Alaska's proximity to Russia, she may have security clearances we don't even know about.

I will match her judgement on the issues with Biden (who's bloviating reminds me of Foghorn Leghorn).Even though his legislative career is full of so called foreign policy ;I question the judgement of someone who seriously contemplated and studied Iraq and in the end promoted a Lawrence of Arabia-like subdivision of Iraq ..

Bottom line ;true she will be a "heartbeat away from the Presidency" .But unless McCain drops in the 1st few months of his term ;she will have sufficent time for "on the job training " . The bigger risk is electing Obama who will walk into the highest office in the land with no practical experience.

Cliff Schecter: Sarah Palin lacks experience

"McCain's choice was governor Sarah Palin of Alaska, a former mayor of a town the size of the building where I grew up in New York. More recently, she has been performing her gubernatorial duties for an entire 1.5 years since her election in November of 2006. In other words, compared to her, when it comes to foreign policy experience, Obama is practically Napoleon.

Meanwhile, she is what you might call a bit slow on the uptake. When asked on CNBC's talkshow Kudlow & Co about some of the vice-presidential speculation surrounding her only a month ago, Palin's reaction really speaks for itself:

"But as for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell ya, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me, what is it exactly that the VP does every day?""

[Wondergirl]

I thought this was interesting:

"Aides to Mr. McCain said they had a team on the ground in Alaska now to look more thoroughly into Ms. Palin's background. A Republican with ties to the campaign said the team assigned to vet Ms. Palin in Alaska had not arrived there until Thursday, a day before Mr. McCain stunned the political world with his vice-presidential choice. The campaign was still calling Republican operatives as late as Sunday night asking them to go to Alaska to deal with the unexpected candidacy of Ms. Palin.

At the least, Republicans close to the campaign said it was increasingly apparent that Ms. Palin had been selected as Mr. McCain's running mate with more haste than McCain advisers initially described." (09/01/08 NYT)

[starbuck8]

You didn't shoot from the hip? Come on. This is not my first rodeo. If you think CNN is questionable and an unreliable source for news than provide one that you think is better. I'm up for that debate.




Well what a surprise! Just a suggestion, use the "Spell Check" that management provides you just right of the "Preview" button. I take it you don't like CNN either?! I didn't know there was a fan club in Canada for Sean Hannity and Lisa Ingraham. Why is it only right in American politics when one side dishes it out and then not confronted?! When I came to this discussion board eight months ago the Pubs were using the Dems as verbal dart boards, and still yet about seventy percent of the posts are initiated by Pubs with some snide angle or remark. Myself though...I don't turn the other cheek. BTW welcome to the board.

I didn't arrive on this site yesterday, and I rarely find the need to use the "spell check", per your suggestion. I'm very grateful that you have pointed out that you know how to use it, and I apologiZe if my finger slipped down, and I made a spelling error.

I do in fact, watch CNN. My comment had nothing to do with the news channel, nor did it have to do with my diction, or gramatical errors. If there is such a "fan club" in Canada, which is also in "America", and isn't exclusive to the U.S. for Sean Hannity or Lisa Ingraham, I have yet to hear.

As a Canadian, I feel I should keep informed of not only Canadian politics, but also the running race in the United States, since it affects us also. So I do come and read the differing opinions, as well as try and keep myself informed through the news and other media.

I often do not comment, as I don't want to get into a political war of words, which is also the reason I read, but normally don't comment on the religious forums.

The reason I felt the need to comment on your post, is because your answer to Stringer was demeaning, and it was not necessary to make him out to be some sort of Redneck Trailer Trash! Stringer is a kind and caring family man, who has values and morals, and the arrogance in your statement to him was just mean spirited.

I am not willing to get into a political banter with anyone here, so I have my doubts I will be back. I enjoy reading others opinions, as it gives me insight not only into the way people think, but the kind of people they are.

Thank you for welcoming me to the board! BTW... is that "Bacon, Tomato... With..?

Forgive me if there are any spelling errors, I didn't use the spell check and preview. ;) :)

[tomder55]

I think that if she were to become president, (far fetched but could happen) the whole wide world would not let her change it to where the women are not protected! You and I would not let that happen, would we? We get the chance to vote... right and the over turn of Roe vs. Wade... dont count on it!

The real problem with the abortion debate is that a decision was imposed on us by the Supreme Court rather than leaving it to the people to decide. Had we gone through the normal legislative process ,we would be close to where we are today with nowhere's near the acrimony .

EXCON it is silly to say that this election is a referendum on the Bush Administration . I have already noted the many times McCain has opposed President Bush .His pick of Palin is illustrative of the reform direction he would move the country and his party along.

I know "change " is a good campaign slogan for a candidate who's accomplishments are as thin as veneer... and of course it is true that the country is looking for a change of direction. However change for change sake is a ridiculous proposition. There is good and bad change and I argue that the direction Obama would take us is a path we should think twice about before departing .

[tomder55]

There's an awful lot to chew on there. I sure would have dug into researching those "facts" to verify them before I had posted them.

Which facts do you want verified ? As you know I do a bit of homework before posting things .

The 49th Missile Defense Battalion (GMD) is an Alaska Army National Guard unit that is permanently on active duty at Fort Greely

Alaska Army National Guard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All Governors are briefed on the issues I mentioned. I will conceded that Biden as a chair of an important Senate Committee probably has a higher degree of clearance.. But ,as I said ,I question his judgement because of his over the top plan to divide Iraq .

What else should I fact check ?

[BABRAM]

I didn't arrive on this site yesterday, and I rarely find the need to use the "spell check", per your suggestion. I'm very grateful that you have pointed out that you know how to use it, and I apologiZe if my finger slipped down, and I made a spelling error.

Actually in your original rant that finger slipped down three times. An apology is not necessary, spelling is not my forte either.

I do in fact, watch CNN. My comment had nothing to do with the news channel, nor did it have to do with my diction, or gramatical errors. If there is such a "fan club" in Canada, which is also in "America", and isn't exclusive to the U.S., for Sean Hannity or Lisa Ingraham, I have yet to hear.

Let's be thankful for that. I watch all major broadcast news networks in the US, some less of the time than others.

As a Canadian, I feel I should keep informed of not only Canadian politics, but also the running race in the United States, since it affects us also. So I do come and read the differing opinions, as well as try and keep myself informed through the news and other media.

The "running race?" You mean the election! Yes. I agree. America has their nose in everybody's back yard so as for as I'm concerned the whole world is entitled to their opinions on the US election.

I often do not comment, as I don't want to get into a political war of words, which is also the reason I read, but normally don't comment on the religious forums.

The reason I felt the need to comment on your post, is because your answer to Stringer was demeaning, and it was not necessary to make him out to be some sort of Redneck Trailer Trash! Stringer is a kind and caring family man, who has values and morals, and the arrogance in your statement to him was just mean spirited.

I am not willing to get into a political banter with anyone here, so I have my doubts I will be back. I enjoy reading others opinions, as it gives me insight not only into the way people think, but the kind of people they are.

We all do. I'm sure Stringer (whatever his real name) is a family man of convictions and is just as substantive as the CNN network is compared to other networks.

Thankyou for welcoming me to the board! BTW.......is that "Bacon, Tomato....With....????

It's bacon for you. I don't usually eat pork. :)

Forgive me if there are any spelling errors, I didn't use the spell check and preview. ;) :)

Don't dwell on it. I didn't mean to give you a complex. :eek:

[tomder55]

Wondergirl :

The Washington Times suggests that she was vetted just like any other candidate .
Washington Times - McCain camp's detailed review of Palin

[NeedKarma]

Wondergirl :

The Washington Times suggests that she was vetted just like any other candidate .
Washington Times - McCain camp's detailed review of Palin

Sarah Palin's path to the Republican ticket started with her name on a list _ and a team of some 25 people poring through public records searching for trouble spots without her knowledge. Then came the 70-question survey and a nearly three-hour interview.

That's good enough for the VP job.

[inthebox]

Wondergirl

Abortion Statistics by U.S. State, Race, Age and Worldwide Statistics


Only 1% are performed because of rape or incest;...

Other: 2.1%

Rape and Incest: Just 1% of All Abortions - New York Times

Estimated 40 million abortions since 1973


Even if a high 10 % estimate was due to rape incest or mother's health

That is 90% or 36 milllion lives "electively" killed.:eek:

Where is the outcry over this infanticide / genocide ? :confused: :(


McCain may have had lukewarm reception from social conservatives, many who would have sat out the election, but with a bonafide pro-lifer who walks the walk in Mrs Palin, I'm almost certain a greater percentage will get out and vote. With the polls running close, a few 100, 000 votes can and will make the difference.

[NeedKarma]

Where is the outcry over this infanticide / genocide ?

Because people don't view these situations the same way you do.

[BABRAM]

Inthebox- The larger problem is that to be 100% pro-life, than you remove any choice. It's for that reason alone that a portion of the public, myself being one of them, will not find resolve with the Pubs (or Dems on this issue). Personally I don't think Palin's daughter should have an abortion, not that they would from their own view. IMO the young girl needs to take responsibility for her actions along with the help and support of the mother VP candidate. Obama was quite correct in stating this is a family matter, but from even the most casual voter it's apparent that Sarah Palin was not aware of her daughter's extra curricular activity. That's not a sign of leadership or somebody that supposedly has an in charge type personality; a reformer. For heaven's sake she doesn't even know what the VP does on a day to day basis. Palin is in over her head thanks to the self-proclaimed maverick. Wow!

[NeedKarma]

From the official statement:

Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby.

She had a decision to make? What decision was that?

[BABRAM]

NK- Good point. Perhaps before the next embarrassing moment occurs, Sarah should get to know her daughter since they reside at the same residence. Reality is that Sarah Palin needs to be at home taking care of children (she even has a child with down syndrome). She's a bit naïve and the last thing she needs to be doing is tagging along side the old white haired dude on the campaign trail.

[Skell]

Yes, that is a good point about the word decision being used...

[Wondergirl]

Wondergirl :

The Washington Times suggests that she was vetted just like any other candidate .
Washington Times - McCain camp's detailed review of Palin

Operant word -- "suggests"