[spitvenom]

Side step that's all republicans can do. You know the more I think about about it maybe McCain is not an elitist . Maybe he is slipping happily into senility.

[speechlesstx]

side step thats all republicans can do.

The truth is not a side step, tom was exactly right.

Elitist: "The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources."

Which fits the description? McCain for not knowing how many houses he owns or Obama and his snarky attitude? It's Barack - healer of the planet, fixer of broken souls, "we are the ones we've been waiting for" - Obama hands down.

[spitvenom]

I didn't ask for a definition. Actually now that I read what you wrote speech, you should have made Financial resources bold because if that also defines an elitist then yes McCain is an elitist.

[sGt HarDKorE]

Uh how is saying "we are the ones we've been waiting for" elitist? It includes all of us as "we". He was referring to those to donated to him, my family has donated and believe me we aren't rich believe me


And I have no comment against the "healer of the planet, fixer of broken souls," as I can't find it anywhere, so I'm not sure if you were saying that about him, or if he said it?

[sGt HarDKorE]

Fyi this site says McCain has 10 homes. The numbers keep rising and shows that his economic plans make him richer but the middle class poorer

Ari Melber: Obama Attacks McCain's Elitist Millionaire Mindset

[speechlesstx]

I didn't ask for a definition. Actually now that I read what you wrote speech, you should have made Financial resources bold because if that also defines an elitist then yes McCain is an elitist.

Well spit, if one wants to define something one needs to know the definition, and the operative words in that definition are "belief" and "perceived." Which one shows the characteristics that demonstrate a belief, a perception of superiority? Certainly not McCain... it shows in their attitudes, not their financial statements.

[spitvenom]

But what you are doing speech is taking words from the definition that fits the answer you want. And that's fine I will do the same thing. The definition clearly says or Financial resources but you left that out because we all know McCain and his wife have more financial resources then the Obama's.

And when Obama says WE (notice he didn't say I) are the ones WE have been waiting for. Simply put WE are tired of the way America has been run for the past 8 years. Obama clearly doesn't make it about him WE voted for him and WE have been waiting for someone to change the way this country has been ran. Very down to earth if you ask me.

Speech How many times have you forgotten how many houses you own? Don't you find it a little elitist that he is so rich he can't remember how many houses he has? I do. Like I said I can count on one hand Actually 2 fingers how many houses I have lived in my entire life.

[speechlesstx]

uh how is saying "we are the ones we've been waiting for" elitist? It includes all of us as "we". He was referring to those to donated to him, my family has donated and believe me we aren't rich believe me


And I have no comment against the "healer of the planet, fixer of broken souls," as I can't find it anywhere, so I'm not sure if you were saying that about him, or if he said it?

Barack didn't say anything about broken souls, his wife described him as "the only person in this who understands" our problems, our broken souls.

"That is why I am here, because Barack Obama is the only person in this who understands that. That before we can work on the problems, we have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation."

If you'll look at my signature it offers Obama's quote about his ability to heal the planet, it's been there for quite some time.

[spitvenom]

So according to Cindy McCain a plane is THE ONLY way to get around Arizona. So does everyone who lives in Arizona get around by planes? She loved it so much she just had to buy one Boy that must be nice I would love it too. Maybe I will skip a vacation to save money to buy a plane, oh that's right I haven't been on a vacation since 2001. Because I can't afford to go on one.

[George_1950]

When A reporter asked John McCain how many houses he has John "everyman" had to think about it and then his answer was I'll have to have one of my staff members get back to you. Are you kidding me!!!!!! He is such an elitist that he doesn't even know the number of houses he has. I don't know about you but I can count how many houses I have lived in on one hand. Hey but maybe his is not an elitist maybe he is losing his memory old age will do that to you.

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Dems jump on McCain’s house gaffe « - Blogs from CNN.com

I don't think McCain's answer to the question about how many homes means anything; perhaps he was thinking about something else; perhaps he was wondering what the definition of a "home" is. How about Robert Wexler: is he an elitist? He doesn't even live in Florida: Robert Wexler Florida Congressman lives in Maryland « Elect Jeff

[spitvenom]

Ok George How many times have you forgotten how many properties you own? I tried to play that clip but it said it was unavailable. But it is a moot point since he is not running for president. If you would like to open a new thread about him please be my guest.

[speechlesstx]

But what you are doing speech is taking words from the definition that fits the answer you want. And thats fine I will do the same thing. The definition clearly says or Financial resources but you left that out because we all know McCain and his wife have more financial resources then the Obama's.

And when Obama says WE (notice he didn't say I) are the ones WE have been waiting for. Simply put WE are tired of the way America has been run for the past 8 years. Obama clearly doesn't make it about him WE voted for him and WE have been waiting for someone to change the way this country has been ran. Very down to earth if you ask me.

Speech How many times have you forgotten how many houses you own? Don't you find it a little elitist that he is so rich he can't remember how many houses he has? I do. Like I said I can count on one hand Actually 2 fingers how many houses I have lived in my entire life.

LOL spit, no, the first thing that always comes to my mind at the mention of 'elitist' is attitude because that's what it is. It's a state of mind, not a financial statement. I don't have to pick because the essence of the word is a "belief" or "attitude," NOT the basis for that belief or attitude.

e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism (-ltzm, -l-)
n.
1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
2.
a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.
e·litist adj. & n.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Elitism
Noun
1. the belief that society should be governed by a small group of people who are superior to everyone else
2. pride in being part of an elite
Elitist nadj

Collins Essential English Dictionary 2nd Edition 2006 © HarperCollins Publishers 2004, 2006

Elitism
The attitude that government should be by those who consider themselves superior to others by virtue of intelligence, social status, or greater accomplishment.
See also: Attitudes

The belief or practice that government should be by a self-appointed group who consider themselves superior to those governed by virtue of their higher birth. — elitist, n. adj.

-Ologies & -Isms. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.

Synonyms: elitism

Snobbish, exclusive, superior, arrogant, selective, pretentious, stuck-up (informal) patronizing, condescending, snooty (informal) uppity, high and mighty (informal) hoity-toity (informal) high-hat (informal), chiefly U.S. uppish Brit. (informal)

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[speechlesstx]

Obama may have accidentally said "57 states" but McCain does much more

He has the interview edited!

Yes, I'm certain Katie Couric protected McCain. :confused:

[spitvenom]

See the first thing that comes to my mind is being Rich. Here I can bold certain words also.

e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism (-ltzm, -l-)
n.
1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
2.
a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.
e·litist adj. & n.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Elitism
Noun
1. the belief that society should be governed by a small group of people who are superior to everyone else
2. pride in being part of an elite
Elitist nadj

Collins Essential English Dictionary 2nd Edition 2006 © HarperCollins Publishers 2004, 2006

Elitism
The attitude that government should be by those who consider themselves superior to others by virtue of intelligence, social status, or greater accomplishment.
See also: Attitudes

The belief or practice that government should be by a self-appointed group who consider themselves superior to those governed by virtue of their higher birth. — elitist, n. adj.

-Ologies & -Isms. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.

Synonyms: elitism

Snobbish, exclusive, superior, arrogant, selective, pretentious, stuck-up (informal) patronizing, condescending, snooty (informal) uppity, high and mighty (informal) hoity-toity (informal) high-hat (informal), chiefly U.S. uppish Brit. (informal)

Collins Essential Thesaurus 2nd Edition 2006 © HarperCollins Publishers 2005, 2006

[speechlesstx]

According to this article, the McCains own "two condominiums along the California coast," they "may also jointly own a condo in Arlington, Va., assessed at $847,800," that "Cindy McCain, through a family trust, sold the family mansion in Phoenix for $3.2 million and bought a $4.6 million Phoenix condo in 2006" and their Sedona property is "owned by his wife's family trust and a real estate partnership in her name." "It's clear the rustic retreat is considered family property." That adds up to 4 homes plus "family" property. Seeing as how much of what he "owns" is part of Cindy's family trust it would be easy for him to not be clear on who owns what. Does that make him an elitist or senile?

[speechlesstx]

See the first thing that comes to my mind is being Rich. Here I can bold certain words also.

I get it spit but I'm not highlighting words to pick a definition, I'm highlighting the actual definition - not the examples for the basis of the attitude.

[BABRAM]

John's very well off, but Cindy is loaded. I wonder if she made him sign a prenuptial knowing that John split with his wife and family after Nam?

[speechlesstx]

The NRO blog tells us about Obama's ad response:

I Mean, It's Not Like There's a Map of What McCain Was Asked

Obama is running his ad on John McCain's confusion on how many houses he has.

My understanding is that this ad will be running in all 57 states.

LOL!

[BABRAM]

Someone tell Obama that Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, etc... are not counted officially as States, although Dubya's trying like hell to make it so. :)

[George_1950]

Someone tell Obama that Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, etc...are not counted officially as States, although Dubya's trying like hell to make it so. :)

McCain's looking out for all 57. Let's add Georgia and Poland; how many's that, since McCain can't tell, and I can't either.