[Peter Wilson]

Peter Wilson,
Herod The Great was in power when Jesus was born.
His son, Herod II, was in power when Jesus began his ministry.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcura)

Thanks Fred I know, Herod Antipas tetrarch of Galilee and Perea. I was referring to Chucks spelling error. :)

So as in Harolds case he was in fear of all the events to come, If he had not actually "beleived" in the teachings he would have never attacked them.

[tsila1777]

Yes, you believe that, Fred !

:)
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Cred does not follow Christians around the board, and he never repeats the same thing on every board over and over and over and over and over and over... :p

[arcura]

Credendovidis,
Thanks for telling be what you believe about that.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcura)

[arcura]

tsila1777,
Credendovidis is Credendovidis, that is the way he is and has been for as long as I have known him. That is several years in several boards.
He believes as he believes and that us his right to do so.
His telling others what they believe (whether true or not) all of those years is annoying to some people and it was for me for a long time.
Now I just laugh at his belies obsession and agree to him with this, "Yup I believe that and you believe as you do"
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcura)

[tsila1777]

Dear Arcura,

Cred does not annoy me. It did not take me long to catch on to his stratagem.;)

He said he did not follow Christians around from board to board to try to ‘make us climb the walls’; my post was just a repartee for his distraction.

He does not bother me at all, although he wishes so much that he could. I, too, have had a few belly laughs at his expense.

I do wish he would open his eyes, mind, and heart. God loves Cred and wants to set him free. If only Cred would believe the truth.

I also wish he would get some new vocabulary words so that he could use some variety in his posts. These boards, as I understand them, are for questions and answers.

May God grant many blessings upon you, dear one. Peace and love in Christ. I hope that I have never said anything to offend you, if so; I do apologize. I can only state my beliefs, and as I am adamant about them, I sometimes get overly zealous when I am typing. Forgive me if I have said anything that even ever so slightly hurt you.

I do understand that you also are just as adamant. We agree to disagree.:)

[arcura]

tsila1777,
You have not ever posted anything that hurt me in any way.
I'm a believer who believes that others have the right to believe as they wish and to freely discuss that belief with others.
I do not try to change others beliefs rather I try to help them understand why I believe as I do.
Understanding leads to wisdom.
Regarding Cred, I think that at one time he was a believer in Christianity but fell in love with science which did to him as it did to many.
That is change one belief for another.
I have no poof of that. It is just something I think and feel.
I pray much for him and others who claim to be atheists or agnostics hoping that the Holy Spirit will bring them to a firm belief in God and Jesus before it is too late for their souls.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcura)

[tsila1777]

Fred,
Thank you. I also hope Cred can see the truth before it is too late.

Love in Christ,
T

[inthebox]

Hardness of heart causes people to reject Who Jesus is. Having Him point out sin causes some to hate Him.

Remember, Jesus did not come to bring peace luke 12.

Matthew 21:44
Anyone who stumbles over that stone will be broken to pieces, and it will crush anyone it falls on.

Greenie for you :D excellent

[arcura]

inthebox
Jesus also came to bring salvation.
To me that is number one.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcura)

[Credendovidis]

Regarding Cred, I think that at one time he was a believer in Christianity but fell in love with science

No Fred. I am NOT "in love" with science. You know quite well that I originally am from Jewish stock, but due to the attitude of the Germans in the 1930's and 40's that I grew up in a Protestant family.
And that I at the tender age of 12 rejected religion as a reality and became a Secular Humanist.
Why do you suggest that you do not know that ? You know that very well, Fred! I have always been open to that, and discussed this anywhere, including the boards we both jointly attended in the past

:rolleyes:

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[arcura]

Credendovidis ,
No Thanks for the explanation.
No, I did not know that whole story.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[tsila1777]

[quote=Fr_Chuck] Yes Fred most attack Christians more out of fear, they often know Or perhaps "believe" in their hearts the real truth but because of fear or because of some event in their life they turn to attacking that faith in an attempt to justify their behaviors. So as in Harold’s case he was in fear of all the events to come, If he had not actually "believed" in the teachings he would have never attacked them.[/quote

Yes, I believe they are so adamant in their persecutions because they know we are right in our beliefs, and they really want what we have, and are hoping we can convince them to repent and call on God. I pray that we can.


He told us in the world we would have persecutions, but to be of good cheer, for He has overcome the world. Therefore, in a way, Cred (and the others) are proving what Cred is asking us to prove. Cred is our proof….:cool:





Blessings to you in Christ Jesus, Who takes away the sins of the whole world and brings salvation to those who will believe and call on His Name.

[Credendovidis]

....Therefore, in a way, Cred (and the others) are proving what Cred is asking us to prove. Cred is our proof…

What a nonsensical rubbish ! Just make sure you stay in Georgia or you will be admitted...

:D :rolleyes: :p ;) :D

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[Alty]

Yes, I believe they are so adamant in their persecutions because they know we are right in our beliefs, and they really want what we have, and are hoping we can convince them to repent and call on God. I pray that we can.


He told us in the world we would have persecutions, but to be of good cheer, for He has overcome the world. Therefore, in a way, Cred (and the others) are proving what Cred is asking us to prove. Cred is our proof….

The above quote is just asking for a fight, you do realize that, don't you?

Not everyone who believes in God believes the same way you do. Not everyone feels the need to "spread the word" of the bible and try to save others souls. I do believe, but not in a man written book, or a man made religion, just in God, that's enough for me.

You say that deep down atheists truly believe, that they are jealous of our faith? Then why wouldn't they believe, there is no logical reason, is there?

Have you never had a moment of doubt that God exists, one small twinge of doubt? I have, I will admit that, but I choose to believe, that choice is mine and mine alone, and I will not force it on anyone else.

There is spreading the word and there is forcing the word, there is a big difference. If you believe in the bible than you should realize that nowhere does it say go forth and force the word on others.

I hope that you can read this with an open mind. It does sound a bit harsh, for that I do apologize, sometimes harshness is needed to get your point across.

I respect your beliefs, now you have to respect others, that's the only way that an open honest discussion will happen.

Having said that, if you cannot respect others rights to defend their beliefs then stick to the Christianity boards where you will get to talk with others of your faith, about your faith.

Peace. :)

[arcura]

tsila1777
Excellent post.
Cred called it rubbish, but it is not. You will often see him say nonsense and rubbish to truths which people publish.
Cred will never admit that he would like to convert everyone to believe has he does.
I've been posting on boards with him on it for years so I know from his many posts and way of posting that that is true.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[Credendovidis]

Cred ... You will often see him say nonsense and rubbish to truths which people publish.

And I wonder why that post with also "nonsense and rubbish" is NOT removed by the powers that be. The rules of - and the judging on - this board seems to become more "flexible" every day towards religious intolerance...

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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[arcura]

Credendovidis
I believe that cred believes that everyone believes in something.
So what.
Big deal.

[Credendovidis]

Credendovidis I believe that cred believes that everyone believes in something. So what. Big deal.

Fred : that your post #35 still appears on this board PROVES that Admin and/or Chuck are measuring with their own religious filled bushels.
If any post that states "nonsense and rubbish" is deleted, why than is a post that states "You will often see him say nonsense and rubbish to truths which people publish" not deleted ?
That's an unfair and dishonest approach !

Dear Fred : note that I have no problems at all with your views. I only comment on your posts, and I am sure you do not expect me to do otherwise !

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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[arcura]

Cred,
I see what I see and you have posted "nonsense and rubbish".
Obviously it was not deleted.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[Handyman2007]

What is the "New Jerusalem Bible"? How many different versions are there ? Which one is the absolute truth and completely historically correct??