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    #41

    Jul 9, 2008, 04:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by progunr

    It would appear that when all that is done, is to bring to light things he has said and people that he has chosen to be closely associated with, are considered a "smear".

    In those instances, he must be "slamming" himself?
    Of course he "slams" himself! But his cronies and spinmeisters are ever so quick to run, even if they're using the bathroom at the moment, to clearly pronounce that it must have been an Obama clone... certainly not Obama slamming himself as the poor innocent would be so very incapable of ever doing that. A proud record? I think not. And speaking of people he has chosen to associate with, take a good look at this site on the Internet.

    The Associates of Barack Obama
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    Jul 9, 2008, 05:11 PM
    John McCain has electile dysfunction and no quantity of these mundane posts are going to help his limp candidacy. The few of you that continuously hate on Obama have only Dubya to thank. Bush all but guaranteed a Democratic presidency.
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    #43

    Jul 9, 2008, 05:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by BABRAM
    John McCain has electile dysfunction and no quantity of these mundane posts are going to help his limp candidacy. The few of you that continuously hate on Obama have only Dubya to thank. Bush all but guaranteed a Democratic presidency.
    Those of you leaning left, seem to use the word hate an awful lot?

    I have never posted anything here, that comes even close to hate.

    Disagreement with policies, and the socialist belief system, is all it takes to get called a hater by you folks.

    The personal attacks, the vulgar language, the way you try to belittle anyone who posts anything against your beliefs is outrageous.

    I don't hate Obama, hell, he's a damn likable guy, but tell me this:

    Has he ever been an "employee" anywhere?

    Has he ever been an assistant manager, or manager of any business?

    Has he ever had to make quick decisions, under a huge amount of stress?

    The kind of decisions that could mean life or death for those under his protection?

    Has he really ever accomplished anything, other than being a community organizer?

    What are the job duties of a community organizer anyway?

    Has he ever hired or fired an employee? (You can't count his pastor)

    Has he ever had to sit down with an employee, and discuss the fact that customers are
    Complaining about that employee's body odor?

    I'm sorry, I just don't see ANYTHING in his life history that could even come close to
    Preparing him to be the President of my Great Nation.

    But I don't hate him.
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    #44

    Jul 9, 2008, 06:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by BABRAM
    John McCain has electile dysfunction and no quantity of these mundane posts are going to help his limp candidacy.
    Hey Bobby, you're absolutely right on that... but only because the Obamessiah can do no wrong. The guy absolutely blows it every time he strays from his teleprompter, he can't keep the same position on an issue from one day to the next, doesn't know how many states are in the Republic, can't spot racism at his church for twenty years and he gets a free pass. McCain can't get by with being an honorable veteran and former POW without taking flak these days.
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    #45

    Jul 9, 2008, 07:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by progunr
    Has he ever been an "employee" anywhere?

    Has he ever been an assistant manager, or manager of any business?

    Has he ever had to make quick decisions, under a huge amount of stress?

    The kind of decisions that could mean life or death for those under his protection?

    Has he really ever accomplished anything, other than being a community organizer?

    What are the job duties of a community organizer anyway?

    Has he ever hired or fired an employee? (You can't count his pastor)

    Has he ever had to sit down with an employee, and discuss the fact that customers are
    complaining about that employee's body odor?

    I'm sorry, I just don't see ANYTHING in his life history that could even come close to
    preparing him to be the President of my Great Nation.

    Wow! That was a special education moment. To run your "Great Nation" you have to field complaints on "body odor?!"


    Barack Obama's Résumé

    "Education
    Undergraduate
    Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA
    Undergraduate, 1981-1983

    Columbia University
    B.A. Political Science with specialization in international relations
    Thesis topic: Soviet nuclear disarmament

    Graduate
    Harvard Law School
    J.D. magna laude 1988-1991

    President, Harvard Law Review

    Organizing
    1983-1988 Director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland on Chicago's South Side.
    1992 Led Chicago's Project Vote! push. This effort resulted in a record number of voter registrations, over 600,000 in Chicago.

    Teaching
    1993-2004 Visiting Law and Government Fellow, then Senior Lecturer, in Constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School.

    Law Practice
    1993-2002 Worked as an associate attorney with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.

    Illinois Senate 1996-2004
    chairman, Health and Human Services Committee

    United States Senate 2004-present
    Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
    Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs
    Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
    Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
    Member, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs

    Bills / Amendments Passed
    S.AMDT.1041 to S.1082 To improve the safety and efficacy of genetic tests.
    S.AMDT.3073 to H.R.1585 To provide for transparency and accountability in military and security contracting.
    S.AMDT.3078 to H.R.1585 Relating to administrative separations of members of the Armed Forces for personality disorder.
    S.AMDT.41 to S.1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
    S.AMDT.524 to S.CON.RES.21 To provide $100 million for the Summer Term Education Program supporting summer learning opportunities for low-income students in the early grades to lessen summer learning losses that contribute to the achievement gaps separating low-income students from their middle-class peers.
    S.AMDT.599 to S.CON.RES.21 To add $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy.
    S.AMDT.905 to S.761 To require the Director of Mathematics, Science, and Engineering Education to establish a program to recruit and provide mentors for women and underrepresented minorities who are interested in careers in mathematics, science, and engineering.
    S.AMDT.923 to S.761 To expand the pipeline of individuals entering the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields to support United States innovation and competitiveness.
    S.AMDT.924 to S.761 To establish summer term education programs.
    S.AMDT.2519 to H.R.2638 To provide that one of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5 million or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee certifies in writing to the agency awarding the contract or grant that the contractor or grantee owes no past due Federal tax liability.
    S.AMDT.2588 to H.R.976 To provide certain employment protections for family members who are caring for members of the Armed Forces recovering from illnesses and injuries incurred on active duty.
    S.AMDT.2658 to H.R.2642 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
    S.AMDT.2692 to H.R.2764 To require a comprehensive nuclear threat reduction and security plan.
    S.AMDT.2799 to H.R.3074 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
    S.AMDT.3137 to H.R.3222 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
    S.AMDT.3234 to H.R.3093 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
    S.AMDT.3331 to H.R.3043 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
    Senate Resolutions Passed:
    S.RES.133 : A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson.
    S.RES.268 : A resolution designating July 12, 2007, as “National Summer Learning Day”.
    Other Bills Introduced
    S.J.RES.23: A joint resolution clarifying that the use of force against Iran is not authorized by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq, any resolution previously adopted, or any other provision of law.
    S. 453: Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act of 2007. The Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act of 2007 (H.R.1281), (S.453), would establish criminal penalties for acts of voter deception. Those who knowingly disseminate false information with the intention of keeping others from voting would face up to five years in prison under the legislation. The Act was sponsored by Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) and 60 cosponsors in the House, and Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and 15 cosponsors in the Senate. (20 Cosponsors)
    S. 2030: A bill to amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require reporting relating to bundled contributions made by persons other than registered lobbyists. (1 Cosponsor)
    S. 2111: Positive Behavior for Effective Schools Act. A bill to amend the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 to allow State educational agencies, local educational agencies, and schools to increase implementation of early intervention services, particularly school-wide positive behavior supports. (3 Cosponsors)
    S. 2066: Back to School: Improving Standards for Nutrition and Physical Education in Schools Act of 2007. A bill to establish nutrition and physical education standards for schools.
    S. Con. Res. 46: A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of Sickle Cell Disease Awareness Month
    S. 2044: Independent Contractor Proper Classification Act of 2007. A bill to provide procedures for the proper classification of employees and independent contractors, and for other purposes. (6 Cosponsors)
    S. 2519: Contracting and Tax Accountability Act of 2007. A bill to prohibit the awarding of a contract or grant in excess of the simplified acquisition threshold unless the prospective contractor or grantee certifies in writing to the agency awarding the contract or grant that the contractor or grantee has no seriously delinquent tax debts, and for other purposes.
    S. 2433: Global Poverty Act of 2007. A bill to require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day. (9 Cosponsors)
    S. 2330: Veterans Homelessness Prevention Act. A bill to authorize a pilot program within the Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development with the goal of preventing at-risk veterans and veteran families from falling into homelessness, and for other purposes. (1 Cosponsor)
    "
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    #46

    Jul 9, 2008, 08:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    Hey Bobby, you're absolutely right on that ... but only because the Obamessiah can do no wrong. The guy absolutely blows it every time he strays from his teleprompter, he can't keep the same position on an issue from one day to the next, doesn't know how many states are in the Republic, can't spot racism at his church for twenty years and he gets a free pass. McCain can't get by with being an honorable veteran and former POW without taking flak these days.

    You have some valid points, but I have to disagree in part. Most Obama supporters know that he comes with his share of imperfections, however with Dubya's baggage riding McCain's coat tails, Obama's has the advantage. Add to that McCain's inability to read simplified speeches from a teleprompter written two days in advance, his grimacing smile, state of confusion stare, and that sought after endorsement of a bigot TV evangelist, he's just not the best Republican candidate possible and never was. BTW I didn't agree when Kerry's opposition went after his military credentials either. I didn't think it was right then and I don't think so now concerning McCain. Damn shame Audi Murphy isn't alive.
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    #47

    Jul 9, 2008, 08:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by BABRAM
    John McCain has electile dysfunction .

    Now that is sadly funny :confused: :D

    Did Obama steal his "viagra?" ;)
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    #48

    Jul 10, 2008, 05:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by inthebox
    Now that is sadly funny :confused: :D
    Unfortunately sometimes using humor is the only way clowns will learn.

    Quote Originally Posted by inthebox
    Did Obama steal his "viagra?" ;)
    Nah. After the shape G. Dubya has left the nation in, nobody can afford Viagra. It's now a pop-sickle stick and a roll of duct tape. :)
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    #49

    Jul 10, 2008, 05:29 AM
    Or some of Obama's baloney .
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    #50

    Jul 10, 2008, 04:49 PM
    I have a rule of thumb which has served me well for many years. I find out who most of the "main stream" media is supporting, and then I vote for his opponent.
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    #51

    Jul 10, 2008, 06:27 PM
    You voted against Ronald Reagan?
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    #52

    Jul 22, 2008, 10:14 AM
    I just had to show our front page from yesterday. While Obama takes on the Taliban, McCain needs help surfing the internet. No bias there, lol.
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    #53

    Jul 22, 2008, 10:55 AM
    What ? Obama wants us to be bogged down in Afghanistan for 100 years ?

    I'd like to ask Generalisimo BAMA how he plans to reliably keep his expeditionary force in this land locked mountainous region supplied ? The route goes right through the heart of Pakistan ;a nation he said he would invade.
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    #54

    Jul 22, 2008, 12:06 PM
    As opposed to Iraq. At least Obama has the origins and geographic locations for OBL and culprits correct, Dubya didn't.
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    #55

    Jul 22, 2008, 12:20 PM
    Pakistan, a nuclear power, already has stated that they do not want any foreign armys.
    At least Bush is smart enough and respectful enough to realize this.

    Besides, Pakistan does not have oil ;)
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    #56

    Jul 22, 2008, 12:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by inthebox
    At least Bush is smart enough and respectful enough to realize this.
    Hello in:

    Smart?? Respectful?? Boy. You've been listening to the OTHER president. The one we've got, the dufus in chief, said that if you harbor terrorists we're coming after you. Isn't that why we attacked Afghanistan?? Because they were harboring Al Quaida?? Yup. That was the reason, all right...

    So, they just moved into Pakistan where they've been for years. How come the terrorists, THE ONES WHO ATTACKED US, are safe in Pakistan?? Because Bush is smart?? Because Bush is respectful?? Are you kiddin me?? NO! It's because he's a dufus, and a liar who's adventures made us LESS safe at home.

    excon
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    #57

    Jul 22, 2008, 01:02 PM
    Pakistan Special Weapons - A Chronology

    1983

    1983--Declassified US government assessment concludes that `There is unambiguous evidence that Pakistan is actively pursuing a nuclear weapons development program * * * We believe the ultimate application of the enriched uranium produced at Kahuta, which is unsafeguarded, is clearly nuclear weapons.'

    1984

    1984--President Zia states that Pakistan has acquired a `very modest' uranium enrichment capability for `nothing but peaceful purposes.'

    1984--President Reagan reportedly warns Pakistan of `grave consequences' if it enriches uranium above 5%.

    1985

    1985--ABC News reports that US believes Pakistan has `successfully tested' a `firing mechanism' of an atomic bomb by means of a non-nuclear explosion, and that US krytrons `have been acquired' by Pakistan.

    1985--U.S. Nuclear Export Control Violation: Texas, krytrons (nuclear weapon triggers).

    1985--U.S. Nuclear Export Control Violation: US cancelled license for export of flash x-ray camera to Pakistan (nuclear weapon diagnostic uses) because of proliferation concerns.

    1985/6--Media cites production of highly enriched, bomb-grade uranium in violation of a commitment to the US.

    1985 -- Pressler Amendment [section 620E(e) of the Foreign Assistance Act] requires a total cut-off of U.S. aid to Islamabad unless the president can certify that Pakistan does not possess a nuclear weapon, and that continued US aid will significantly decrease the probability of its developing one in the future.

    1986

    1986--Bob Woodward article in Washington Post cites alleged DIA report saying Pakistan `detonated a high explosive test device between Sept. 18 and Sept. 21 as part of its continuing efforts to build an implosion-type nuclear weapon;' says Pakistan has produced uranium enriched to a 93.5% level.

    1986--Press reports cite U.S. `Special National Intelligence Estimate' concluding that Pakistan had produced weapons-grade material.

    1986--Commenting on Pakistan's nuclear capability, General Zia tells interviewer, `It is our right to obtain the technology. And when we acquire this technology, the Islamic world will possess it with us.'

    1986--Declassified memo to then-Secretary of State Henry Kissinger states, `Despite strong U.S. concern, Pakistan continues to pursue a nuclear explosive capability * * * If operated at its nominal capacity, the Kahuta uranium enrichment plant could produce enough weapons-grade material to build several nuclear devices per year.'






    If the Republican administrations are so brazenly smart then why did Pakistan already have it and yet now the crux of the nuclear issue is over Iran?? Maybe Dubya should let them have it also? And since when did oil become the reason that OBL's terrorist act on 9/11 happened?? That's a new one. So OBL's in a cave recording videos saying to the United States give me your oil? LOL! http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/frontp...x220041030.pdf

    BTW "oil" was John McCain's explanation as to why we went to war in Iraq. McCain accidentally says what he believes about the war in Iraq - The Carpetbagger Report
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    Jul 22, 2008, 02:07 PM
    Oil or or "very real strategic national interests" as Hillary would call it. Otherwise, one more reminder of the reasons we went to Iraq...

    Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and
    Illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition
    Of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the
    National security of the United States and enforce United Nations
    Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;

    Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a
    United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq
    Unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear,
    Biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver
    And develop them, and to end its support for international
    Terrorism;

    Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States
    Intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that
    Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale
    Biological weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear
    Weapons development program that was much closer to producing a
    Nuclear weapon than intelligence reporting had previously indicated;

    Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire,
    Attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify
    And destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and
    Development capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal
    Of inspectors from Iraq on October 31, 1998;

    Whereas in Public Law 105-235 (August 14, 1998), Congress concluded that
    Iraq's continuing weapons of mass destruction programs threatened
    vital United States interests and international peace and security,
    Declared Iraq to be in ``material and unacceptable breach of its
    International obligations'' and urged the President ``to take
    Appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution and relevant
    Laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with its
    International obligations'';

    Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of
    The United States and international peace and security in the
    Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach
    Of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing
    To possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons
    Capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and
    Supporting and harboring terrorist organizations;

    Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolution of the United Nations
    Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its
    Civilian population thereby threatening international peace

    [[Page 116 STAT. 1499]]

    And security in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or
    Account for non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq,
    Including an American serviceman, and by failing to return property
    Wrongfully seized by Iraq from Kuwait;

    Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and
    Willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations
    And its own people;

    Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing
    Hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States,
    Including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush
    And by firing on many thousands of occasions on United States and
    Coalition Armed Forces engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the
    United Nations Security Council;

    Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for
    Attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including
    The attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in
    Iraq;

    Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist
    Organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and
    Safety of United States citizens;

    Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001,
    Underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of
    Weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist
    Organizations;

    Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of
    Mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either
    Employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United
    States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international
    Terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that
    Would result to the United States and its citizens from such an
    Attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend
    Itself;

    Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) authorizes
    The use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security
    Council Resolution 660 (1990) and subsequent relevant resolutions
    And to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten
    International peace and security, including the development of
    Weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United
    Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security
    Council Resolution 687 (1991), repression of its civilian population
    In violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688
    (1991), and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations
    In Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution
    949 (1994);

    Whereas in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq
    Resolution (Public Law 102-1), Congress has authorized the President
    ``to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations
    Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve
    Implementation of Security Council Resolution 660, 661, 662, 664,
    665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677'';

    Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it
    ``supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of
    United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent
    With the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against

    [[Page 116 STAT. 1500]]

    Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1),'' that Iraq's repression of its
    Civilian population violates United Nations Security Council
    Resolution 688 and ``constitutes a continuing threat to the peace,
    Security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region,'' and that
    Congress, ``supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the
    Goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688'';

    Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed
    The sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United
    States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi
    Regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to
    Replace that regime;

    Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United
    States to ``work with the United Nations Security Council to meet
    Our common challenge'' posed by Iraq and to ``work for the necessary
    Resolutions,'' while also making clear that ``the Security Council
    Resolutions will be enforced, and the just demands of peace and
    Security will be met, or action will be unavoidable'';

    Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on
    Terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist
    Groups combined with its development of weapons of mass destruction
    In direct violation of its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and
    Other United Nations Security Council resolutions make clear that it
    Is in the national security interests of the United States and in
    Furtherance of the war on terrorism that all relevant United Nations
    Security Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use
    Of force if necessary;

    Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on
    Terrorism through the provision of authorities and funding requested
    By the President to take the necessary actions against international
    Terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations,
    Organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or
    Aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or
    Harbored such persons or organizations;

    Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take
    All appropriate actions against international terrorists and
    Terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or
    Persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist
    Attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such
    Persons or organizations;

    Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take
    Action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism
    Against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint
    Resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law
    107-40); and

    Whereas it is in the national security interests of the United States to
    Restore international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region
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    #59

    Jul 22, 2008, 03:44 PM
    Personally I think Dubya just needed any excuse after being blindsided by OBL so he took his frustration out on Saddam Hussein and Iraq.
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    Jul 22, 2008, 03:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyGem
    Why is the Media pushing for Obama so hard?
    May be because after too many years of Republican maladministration and "stealing" the presidency, it is really time for a new Democratic fresh wind in the White House, perhaps ?

    :rolleyes:

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