[starfirefly]

I know but I would still fight it, for them to take his money its almost them saying "we forgive you" I mean it a rotten thing for them to do, its hard to find honest people so I would fight it

[ChihuahuaMomma]

It's not a rotten thing for them to do, the item belongs to the store until you purchase it. The person accepting the money for the item is reducing shrink in the store, and thereby doing their job.

[starfirefly]

If an offender has a history of shoplifting or the value of the stolen goods exceeds $500, shoplifting laws often yield harsher penalties. An offender can be charged with grand theft or larceny , both of which are felony crimes. Under shoplifting laws, a person who is convicted of this crime may receive a sentence that includes jail or prison time, punitive fines, community service, and/or other penalties.


does this help...

[ChihuahuaMomma]

That varies from state to state. In Washington state for instance, $250 is a felony.

[hiwiseguy]

As such we were required to read arrested persons the Miranda rights if we felt that we were going to use statements they made against them in court.

As you can see, this does not apply to the OP's situation.

However, when you did actually have to read them their rights, it was because they were being arrested and you were acting like a cop (which is basically what the person from the northwest said -- only cops read them their rights).

[starfirefly]

Yes I was just looking up the basics cause I have no idea what difference in the laws between canada and the usa, and the diff states, but that was all I could find

[ChihuahuaMomma]

As you can see, this does not apply to the OP's situation.

However, when you did actually have to read them their rights, it was because they were being arrested and you were acting like a cop (which is basically what the person from the northwest said -- only cops read them their rights).

I agree for the most part, however when they are taken to the office for shoplifting they are being arrested. They can be handcuffed and taken down to be handcuffed if necessary. They are being detained until cops arrive. They are still being arrested.

[N0help4u]

My state the cops say "we do not have to do the Miranda rights we are detaining you NOT arresting you. You are not arrested until you are processed."

[JudyKayTee]

I just want to clarify on Judy's statement. Not experience as I've never been arrested for shoplifting (cause I've never done it). My boyfriend does this for a living. LOL. Way to make me sound bad, Judy! Gah! Just messing!

I knew that - that wasn't a back slap. I realized that's what your boyfriend does and that was my reference.

[JudyKayTee]

I know, I was just joking with Judy. She knows that (hopefully).

I will admit it took me two reads - and, anyway, I figured you were too smart to get caught. :D :D

If someone could figure out to "type" facial expression and intonation, life would be easier. Or I could drink more (or less) coffee.

[ChihuahuaMomma]

My state the cops say "we do not have to do the Miranda rights we are detaining you NOT arresting you. You are not arrested until you are processed."

Wow, that's messed up. Detaing and arresting are the same thing. Detaining Power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

At least in the court system anyway.

[ChihuahuaMomma]

And I know Judy, I wish we could all record our responses and post that!