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    Jun 19, 2008, 01:35 PM
    High school pregnancy pact
    This what my taxes go to?


    FOXNews.com - Massachusetts High School Faces Pregnancy Boom - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News
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    Jun 19, 2008, 01:47 PM
    Yep. And that is just for starters!

    IF any of these single baby factories do get a job, chances are they won't earn enough to even have to pay any taxes.

    Thanks to you and me and everyone else who works hard, not only will they not have to pay any taxes, the government will be sending them a check, a so called "tax credit" in the form of an "earned income credit" so not only do they keep all the money they made, but they get some of the money we made too.

    The Socialistic redistribution of wealth.

    That IS the PROBLEM in America today.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 01:50 PM
    Yeah but remember anything goes
    Its all about what you 'feel'
    It doesn't matter the outcome as long as YOU got what you want
    No matter
    Who are we to tell others what to do
    Don't worry be happy
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    Jun 19, 2008, 01:53 PM
    Did anyone read the other headlines on the link of the OP?

    Australian twin toddlers being starved to death and they have many more children who are being looked after by the grandmother.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 01:58 PM

    The funny thing is that the NP wants to distribute birth control WITHOUT parental consent.

    The problem is that some of these teenagers WANT TO GET PREGNANT, so will they really take birth control?
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:01 PM
    People say that welfare people get Earned income credit but when I was on welfare I was only eligible for EIC IF I had income from a job and it went according to how much I made at my job and not welfare.
    Welfare was not included and I could not collect if I had no job income. I don't know if it has changed in the past few years but I do not think it has.

    Many of these kids get bored with their kids and do pawn them off on their parents to raise.

    Birth Control HAS been being given to our kids without our knowledge for quite a few years now
    Schools even get the kids abortions without parents knowing they were ever pregnant.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:13 PM
    I remember walking in the mall and right in front of me were two girls about 13 or 14 and they both chanted 'Yea, I want to get pregnant!'. I wanted to turn them around, slap them silly and talk some sense into them. Maybe those young girls look up to Brittany Spear's little siter Jamie. She's a great example plus a movie star so of course her fans think whatever she does is okay.

    I have never even had kids but know that having them young (as a teenager) takes away youth. I don't know ANYONE that would want to do that.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:20 PM
    Where I live MANY girls are on their 3rd baby by the time they turn 18
    It has been that way for at least the past 10 years.
    They are obsessed with having a baby and then as I said they get bored and want their freedom so then the kids are raised by the babies grandparents.
    Often they put father unknown on the birth certificate so that the dad doesn't have to pay support.
    (often they don't even know who daddy is)

    I call it the who'surdaddy generation.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:24 PM
    Do you suppose that so many young girls would want to get pregnant, if they knew without a doubt, that NO ONE, would help them with these children.

    No welfare, no WIC, no food stamps, no help, including the parents?

    Granted, unplanned pregnancy is going to happen, no matter what we do.

    I have to say that if the government programs were not in place to make it easy for them to handle raising a child or children on their own, they would think a lot harder about "WANTING" to be pregnant.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:24 PM
    Haha!!

    Funny! I like that one!
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by progunr
    Do you suppose that so many young girls would want to get pregnant, if they knew without a doubt, that NO ONE, would help them with these children.

    No welfare, no WIC, no food stamps, no help, including the parents?

    Granted, unplanned pregnancy is going to happen, no matter what we do.

    I have to say that if the government programs were not in place to make it easy for them to handle raising a child or children on their own, they would think a lot harder about "WANTING" to be pregnant.
    Very good point.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:26 PM
    I think this is just example of how our society is going to collapse form the inside out.I think that if this happening now , I can't wait to see the teens of 2020. It's bad enough that more babies are born out of wedlock, at alone teen purposely trying to have a baby.
    Why are teens so immature in a era of information?
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:26 PM
    Exactly , the boys / sperm donors won't step up and act like men / fathers.

    With medicaid, wic, hud, what does a single teenage mother need a man for? Why would she marry the father or marry at all if she loses these benefits?


    All you have to do is look at the census bureau statistics on poverty to know that the best way to avoid it is

    Education
    Not becoming a parent till > 20 and
    Marriage


    But the appeal in modern culture / media is to hormones, emotions, instant gratification, irresponsibility NOT

    Personal responsibility or intellectual achievement.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by inthebox
    Exactly , the boys / sperm donors won't step up and act like men / fathers.

    With medicaid, wic, hud, what does a single teenage mother need a man for? Why would she marry the father or marry at all if she loses these benefits?


    All you have to do is look at the census bureau statistics on poverty to know that the best way to avoid it is

    education
    not becoming a parent till > 20 and
    marriage


    but the appeal in modern culture / media is to hormones, emotions, instant gratification, irresponsibility NOT

    personal responsibility or intellectual achievement.
    Yep!!

    Personal Responsibility.

    That is the first and most important thing that gets thrown out the window under a Socialistic/Communistic form of government.

    Do not worry about taking care of yourself, your government has that under control.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:29 PM
    Prog I agree 100% that we make it too easy in many ways
    Sex education that doesn't cover the reality of raising a baby, Hollywood glamorizing it,
    Government hand out programs,
    I still think some would still be obsessed with wanting a baby
    Just like back in the day when we watched the shows where the hero always won and
    We had a feeling of being invincible, these teens think they can handle having a baby without any problems.

    BUT they need to do something because it is out of control
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:37 PM
    Got to add this thought.

    Do you realize that the people who get all these benefits, actually BELIEVE that the money comes from the government!

    Seriously, that is why they don't understand why anyone should be upset that "the government" is giving them money, why should anyone else be concerned about that, after all, the government has plenty of money, why shouldn't they get some of it?

    I started working at 14, in the 37 years since then, I have yet to receive a single thank you card from any of these babies mommas, for helping them support their children.

    Has anyone else gotten any thank you cards?
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:51 PM
    Sadly what really gets me too is that most of them have a you owe me attitude
    They will knock at my door and in a demanding way say TAKE ME TO THE STORE like I am their mother
    And I don't even know them other than that they are the single mom down the street.
    Many of them are soooo wasteful too, like somebody gives them clothes and then the kid outgrows them and rather than giving them to somebody else they throw them away.
    They sell their food stamps for drugs and then use their cute kids to make others feel sorry for them and feed them.
    They order cable and get Rent a Center big screen TV that they can not afford and then their utilities get shut off and the Rent a Center is taking back what they delivered a couple months ago. Then they have to go to energy crisis and have them turn the utilities back on.
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    Jun 19, 2008, 02:56 PM
    So very true!

    It's hard to blame them though, if you don't have to earn what you get, why should you take any pride in having it, or care too much if you loose it.

    The socialistic policies take away every chance an individual has at ever having any pride or dignity, or sense of self worth.

    Why can't the liberals see this?
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    Jun 19, 2008, 08:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by happyprincess
    i think this is just example of how our society is going to collapse form the inside out.I think that if this happening now , I can't wait to see the teens of 2020. It's bad enough that more babies are born out of wedlock, at alone teen purposely trying to have a baby.
    Why are teens so immature in a era of information?

    It's been happening for the past fifty years plus, it just more in the open today. Dr. Laura Schlessinger addresses the individual failed responsibilities, immaturity and the society aspect, in several of her books.

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