[felis48]

Does identity theft and or fraud fall under measure seven in the state of Oregon?

[Fr_Chuck]

Measure 7 deals with

On November 7, 2000, Oregon voters passed Ballot Measure 7, which

requires state and local governments to compensate a property owner if a
government passes or enforces a regulation that restricts the use of property
and thereby reduces its value. Businesses in Oregon will be affected by
Measure 7 in two main ways: (a) directly, through compensation or reductions

I can not see any connection between this and ID theft
in regulatory requirements, and (b) indirectly, through changes that may occur
in the services and costs of government if government must finance the costs of
compensation

[felis48]

Ok maybe it is measure eleven that it would be under could that have something to do with it?

[Fr_Chuck]

Measure 11 deals with min sentences for various crimes

[Fr_Chuck]

The oregan state laws dealing with ID theft and Fraud

Department of Justice, State of Oregon - Consumer Protection, Credit and Identity Theft

Chapter 165 — Offenses Involving Fraud or Deception

[felis48]

Ok so would you say any of these crimes fall under measure eleven?
ID theft
Three counts of theft by receiving
And fraud

[felis48]

What would you consider it if some one steals a credit card and uses it?

[Fr_Chuck]

Stealing the credit card - theft ( depends on how they stole it)

Using it, each time it is used is an additoinal theft

** crimes go by various names, in GA it may be called a criminal tresspass depending on how much was stolen.

[ScottGem]

Can you explain WHY you are asking?

[felis48]

Because my friends kid of now 20 years old as of yeasterday did these things and we want to know what he is looking at as far as time in jail or prison.

[Fr_Chuck]

Again how the card was stolen, 1.break into house 2. break into car
3.picked their pocket 4. stole it from locker at gym
The how did they get the card is one issue.

Then how much and how many times did they use the card, and how many cards did they steal.

If they used someone's ID, to order a new card, yes that is ID theft and fraud, and also theft for each use of card. Also there is some chance of a Federal postal charge

These crimes do not fall under measure 11 sentencing guidelines,

Each count is a class C felony in Oregan

[ScottGem]

Get him an attorney and ask them. Until you know what he will be charged with all you can so is speculate.

[felis48]

Her son stole two credit cards from her pocket he is chared with five counts of felony c three for receiving stolen property one which was a gun he is in jail and has court on the eleventh but his mother is just wanting to know what he might be facing. They told her that if she dropped the charges of the cards being stolen it would make it easier on him but she is not sure what she wants to do because she does not want to send her son to prison for five years or more but yet she does want to see him get some help so she is going to try to see if she can get him some jail time and rehab but it is hard for her since he is over 18 also.

[Fr_Chuck]

Get an attorney, have them work at a deal with the state DA over the case

[felis48]

Well that is what they are trying to do but she would have to drop her charges and she is not sure she wants to do this. He has an attorney and she wants to see him get help not just go to prison.The attorny is the one suggesting her droping the charges>

[Fr_Chuck]

No, she does not have to drop the charges for him to have an attorney and work out a plea agreement, But no the court is not going to get him help, it will either send him to jail and then probation, to prison and then parole The only thing will be for how long will he go, that is what the plea agreement decides.

[felis48]

She has insurance to get him help she is going to talk to the DA and see what they want and take it from there.
Thank you for you answeres you are a lot of help.