[progunr]

Has anyone seen the video of the Muslims tossing their babies over a wall, watching them fall about 50 feet, and catching them in a towel?

Seriously, they believe that this will bring good luck!

Is it any wonder that this religion receives so much criticism from the rest of the world?

[zylstra]

Don't make it about religion.

[BABRAM]

Has anyone seen the video of the Muslims tossing their babies over a wall, watching them fall about 50 feet, and catching them in a towel?

Seriously, they believe that this will bring good luck!

Is it any wonder that this religion receives so much criticism from the rest of the world?

Listen I'm Jewish and my heritage has had to endure many accusations such as being called the Christian's J killer and numerous blood libels. As for Muslims, well perhaps when a Muslim speaks to this issue it has other rational given a different set of circumstances, or may be not the norm for most Muslims, or may be just that you are you buying into a witch hunt? Do you know how many people died because they had dimples or black cats for pets? It just makes people that act out in the name of religion appear more regressive to the rest of society. Your post appears very anti-Muslim and spiteful so be careful and not to blanket a whole people. I did recently hear of a ritual from India where the majority population is Hindu if you want to check the link below. I don't know the exact numbers of people involved in the ritual or how widely spread the ritual is prcatised. Personally I have nothing against peaceful seeking Muslims or Hindu or whomever. The only thing I'd say is that for the sake of humanity nobody should endanger a baby's precious life.

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[Skell]

Priests & pastors often practice in molesting children. No wonder the world has such a dim view on the Christianity.
See I don't actually think this way. But you do.
Your broad swipe shows your own narrow mindness.

[BABRAM]

Priests & pastors often practice in molesting children. No wonder the world has such a dim view on the Christianity.
See i dont actually think this way. But you do.
Your broad swipe shows your own narrow mindness.

Skell, good point. I think you're referencing the Catholic Church for some misdeeds. Thankfully most priests are not like that, but I always thought the Catholics should let their priests marry. Currently in the US we are dealing with an extremist sect of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-Day Saints which broke from the Mainstream Mormon Church, from my understanding. Anyway they have been charged with polygamy (which is illegal here), child endangerment, there could be pedophilia and rape charges as well. Their founder was marrying off underage girls to grown men.

[zylstra]

Not all Muslims do this.

I'm not sure what you mean by don't make it about religion.

This is being reported as a Muslim tradition.

What other term should I be using?

I did not state or give any indication that ALL Muslims do it, only that it was a Muslim tradition.

You condemn the Muslim religion based upon a bizarre practice of a particular culture. If you want to speak about the religion then speak about the religion. If you want to discuss a tradition of a small group of people, which has no relation to the religion (other than that they happen to be of that religion), then discuss that, but don't confuse the two.

[Galveston1]

Priests & pastors often practice in molesting children. No wonder the world has such a dim view on the Christianity.
See i dont actually think this way. But you do.
Your broad swipe shows your own narrow mindness.

Your swipe is pretty broad too. Would you like to change the word "often" to "occasionally"?

[kp2171]

Originally Posted by Skell
Priests & pastors often practice in molesting children. No wonder the world has such a dim view on the Christianity.
See i dont actually think this way. But you do.
Your broad swipe shows your own narrow mindness.


Your swipe is pretty broad too. Would you like to change the word "often" to "occasionally"?

You missed the line... he doesn't believe this... its an exaggeration to prove a point.

[progunr]

Listen I'm Jewish and my heritage has had to endure many accusations such as being called the Christian's J killer and numerous blood libels. As for Muslims, well perhaps when a Muslim speaks to this issue it has other rational given a different set of circumstances, or may be not the norm for most Muslims, or may be just that you are you buying into a witch hunt?! Do you know how many people died because they had dimples or black cats for pets?! It just makes people that act out in the name of religion appear more regressive to the rest of society. Your post appears very anti-Muslim and spiteful so be careful and not to blanket a whole people. I did recently hear of a ritual from India where the majority population is Hindu if you want to check the link below. I don't know the exact numbers of people involved in the ritual or how widely spread the ritual is prcatised. Personally I have nothing against peaceful seeking Muslims or Hindu or whomever. The only thing I'd say is that for the sake of humanity nobody should endanger a baby's precious life.

LIVENEWS.com.au > Off the wall > Bizarre religious ritual: Indians fling infants from buildings

At the time I first viewed this video, the only description reported was that it was a Muslim tradition in India.

I was so shocked, I immediately wondered how anyone else felt about it, and I posted it for discussion.

I have since discovered that it is actually a Muslim/Hindu tradition in India and not specifically a Muslim only tradition, so I have been corrected as far as that goes.

I want to address your comment [Quote=BABRAM] "your post appears very anti-Muslim and spiteful so be careful and not to blanket a whole people".

I will admit that I don't know everything about Muslims and I'm sure that there are many who are very good people and mean no harm to anyone. Unfortunately, what I do know about the Muslim faith does in fact make me anti-Muslim. Perhaps my facts are wrong, and someone with more knowledge than myself could certainly educate me further?

I believe that the Muslim faith teaches that anyone who does not follow the Muslim faith must be killed. That God actually rewards them for doing so with many virgins (not sure what the exact number is) when they get to heaven.

If that statement is actually true and based on fact, then I am sorry to say, yes, I am anti-Muslim as far as the "group" is concerned. In addition, knowing that the people who crashed the planes in New York were all Muslims, as were the people who planned the attack, adds to my anti Muslim position.

That being said, I still do not judge any individual based on any preconceived notion, I believe in giving someone the chance to show me by way of words and actions what kind of human being they are.

Finally, I so agree with you in that no matter what faith or ethnicity, no one should ever purposefully endanger the life of a child as is evident in that video footage I saw yesterday.

[Fr_Chuck]

To be honest I deleted this post once and someone put it back since I believed and still believe it crosses the line, esp the way it is worded.

Those of the Islamic faith are fighting with us in the battle against terrorist. Many of those terrorsts are Muslim but that no more makes the fath bad then those who lock thierself up in compounds with guns and call thierself Christians make their faith bad.

Next for one to believe anything they see on you tube or almost any part of the internet without finding out more.

[progunr]

To be honest I deleted this post once and someone put it back since I beleived and still beleive it crosses the line, esp the way it is worded.

Those of the Islamic faith are fighting with us in the battle against terrorist. Many of those terrorsts are Muslim but that no more makes the fath bad then those who lock thierself up in compounds with guns and call thierself Christians make thier faith bad.

Next for one to beleive anything they see on you tube or almost any part of the internet without finding out more.

I have never believed in censorship unless it is done to protect children.

Many times, people hold beliefs that are sometimes based on ignorance. It is only by way of open discussion, and the disclosure of facts perhaps unknown, that they can learn things they don't already know, or correct things they think they do know.

I did not view the video on you tube or the internet, it was played on 3 major news programs yesterday.

If I am in fact ignorant about the Muslim faith, then perhaps there are people here who can teach me the errors of my opinions. I didn't read anything in your post that presents an argument in defense of this statement:

"I believe that the Muslim faith teaches that anyone who does not follow the Muslim faith must be killed. That God actually rewards them for doing so with many virgins (not sure what the exact number is) when they get to heaven".

I am not trying to piss anyone off, what could I possibly gain from that?

If someone is "anti" anything, they have reasons for being so. I have expressed my reasons for what I believe, which is what anyone should be able to do in a forum that is designed for open discussion.

[Fr_Chuck]

There is open discussion and there is posts with a negative slant. And often a fine line between disscussion and attacking the faith of others.
I am obvoiusly not Muslim so it is not because of personal beleifs but would do this action for any religious beleifs

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