[SkyGem]

The nation is talking greatly now and has decided that Obama, who is left of Hillary Clinton on most things important to Americans, is simply unelectable. After her victorious win in Pennsylvania, Hillary has apparently more than convinced people across the nation that she would make a better president than Obama and the nation is now agreeing with her! In fact, she is now even beating McCain! If Obama truly wants to get a Democrat as president in the Oval Office by next January, he should gracefully bow out of the race now and save the party from further struggles! This trend can only continue with Hillary winning more and more support and even the superdelegates who are now seriously looking at her!

For the story: ABC News: AP POLL: Clinton Beats McCain By Wider Margin Than Obama

[N0help4u]

NO! Like I said back in January he needs to defeat Hillary to get her out of the pic and THEN concentrate on proving how unelectable Obama is.

[Fr_Chuck]

I don't really call less than 10 percent a large victory, esp since she was 20 percent ahead in the state before the election. And in fact he is winning the race at this point and I would wonder why Hillary has not done the proper thing and steped out

[N0help4u]

and I would wonder why Hillary has not done the proper thing and steped out

Because Hillary is Hillary and she will NEVER back off anything!

[SkyGem]

I don't really call less than 10 percent a large victory, esp since she was 20 percent ahead in the state before the election. And in fact he is winning the race at this point and I would wonder why Hillary has not done the proper thing and steped out

But then why should she? The tide is now turning in her favor as more and more people realize she is the one who could actually beat McCain and they are arriving at this conclusion just in time! Did you, perchance, see the broad spectrum of groups who are now with her! That speaks volumes for what this country is looking for and now believes in. Well, Republicans did want Hillary as the Democrat nominee, looks like they're going to get their chance!

[BABRAM]

Btw, see the latest "I Told You So " posting at:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ce-210579.html

What's that saying, "pride comes before the fall?" Well get ready the Sky is falling! :)

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

Monday, April 28, 2008

"Thirty-four percent (34%) of Democrats nationwide now believe that Hillary Clinton should drop out of the race for the White House. That's up from 32% earlier in April and 22% in late March.

As for Barack Obama, just 22% of Democrats say he should drop out. That's down from 26% earlier in April and unchanged from 22% in March. Just 1% want both candidates to drop out and 45% aren't ready for either to leave.

Nationally, Obama holds a modest but steady lead over Clinton in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll."

[tomder55]

I don't want him out of the race . I want a Dem deadlocked convention and Recreate 68 in Denver. At this point I'm not sure he wouldn't be the easier candidate for McCain to beat .

But I think that the revelation in the LA Slimes that Obama laundered money through a law firm to hide his income (for which he did not provide any known services)while an Ill. State Senator, to avoid disclosure of the income ,is going to be the nail in his coffin. That and the revelation that Obama had a much closer association with William Ayers then he has previously disclosed . Ayers was his employer for 8 years at Chicago's Annenberg Challenge .


Obama donor received a state grant - Los Angeles Times

Why is Obama Hiding the Truth About William Ayers? Follow the Money : NO QUARTER

Then again... if McCain doesn't get off those marionette strings that Obama's been pulling he won't win anyway . He sounds ridiculous with his poor handling of the NC Republican party Rev Wright ad. He went from attacking the Republican party in NC for making an attack ad about Rev Wright to attacking Obama over the issues after Obama said it was OK for him to do it Sunday . From an ethical standpoint, injecting Wright into the campaign is legitimate or it isn't. It shouldn't matter what Obama believes.
Jonathan Martin's Blog - Politico.com
Obama's response was predictable after McCain fell into his trap.
"By sinking to a level that he specifically said he'd avoid, John McCain has broken his word to the American people and rendered hollow his promise of a respectful campaign"

[BABRAM]

I don't want him out of the race . I want a Dem deadlocked convention and Recreate 68 in Denver. At this point I'm not sure he wouldn't be the easier candidate for McCain to beat .

About time someone opposing the Democrats, spoke factually concerning the hope of he Republican party. They really don't have much else to work with. As for nomination and brokerage conventions, the difference is that the Democratic primaries of '08 are facing a more serious dilemma and I hope that the DNC surely doesn't want to set our country back in time to a 1960's evolution mindset. The whole world is watching to see the outcome and we stand to be the hypocrites of democracy in their eyes.

[NeedKarma]

Hey Mods,
How many more of these anti-Obama threads is this member going to start? It's getting a little annoying:
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/search...archid=2734912


▒

[spitvenom]

Post after post I see skygem make these pointless and ridiculous comments come clean with us skygem what is your real problem with Obama? You want someone who is winning the nomination to step down because he lost one state by 9.4 and any 7th grader can tell you that with .4 you round down so actually she won by 9 points. Just like FR chuck said he was supposed to lose it by 20 does that not say something to you. He has a commanding lead in NC. Indiana is a dead heat. Your link says Obama can beat McCain, So if he wins both NC and IN what nonsense are you going to say after that? Please tells us why you actually don't like Obama.

My opinion is you are racist and I say that because my grandparents are the most racist people I have ever met in private meaning they won't say racist things about people to strangers but they will not paint that person in a good light. And every time I read one of your post it sounds exactly like something my grandmother would say to strangers. So come clean this is America freedom of speech so let it out Skygem.

[NeedKarma]

Spit,
If you check the profile he/she writes:

Experience:
I am a Born Again Christian. Also, am an ordained minister. Have received certification as a Holistic Life Coach after studies and testing. I have studied religion as well as spiritual matters and have received degrees and certificates, plus in associated areas. In addition, I have studied about the Afterlife and feel very blessed in helping others when they request it. Occupation:
To help in Jesus' name.

I find that quite disturbing considering the conduct here.

[tomder55]

In the US Obama and the Democrat nomination pretty much dominates "current events" . The fact is that there was a news story out yesterday that sky linked to . Bobby effectively countered his point with a counterpoint with a supporting link .
The Rev Wright is "current events " again because he has been all over the media in a pre- book tour and because he is not about to blow his 15 minutes of fame.
The article I linked to involving Obama's questionable hiding of income during his days a an Ill. Senator was reported by the LA Times Sunday... again "current events" .

I will remind everyone that we are pretty much prohibited from posting these on the "Politics" board because we do not end our posting with a ? . So where else should these discussions be posted ?

[NeedKarma]

Tom,
It's the sheer number I guess. Perhaps it could all be merged into one thread.

[tomder55]

Lol I understand . Maybe when Obama has his press conference today after his PBS interview ,and throws both Rev Wright and his white grandma under the bus the buzz will cool down a little .

[you_know]

Well personally I really don't want Obama to be the president. I hear all these things that he is saying and I get worried. Who hear thinks that he will win?

[NeedKarma]

The buzz is what is created by people who don't care about the issues. The reverend and the grandma are red herrings. Apparently Obama is untouchable on the issues. Kudos to him.

[tomder55]

I was right however . Obama did throw the Rev under the bus big time . His press conference just concluded.

Obama Addresses Ex-Pastors Media Blitz - The Caucus - Politics - New York Times Blog

[speechlesstx]

The buzz is what is created by people who don't care about the issues. The reverend and the grandma are red herrings. Apparently Obama is untouchable on the issues. Kudos to him.

Considering the thousands of times I've read and heard the complaints that "Bush lied," the 2006 Democratic campaign against the alleged "Republican culture of corruption," the endless congressional investigations of the Bush administration since the Dems gained the majority in Congress, and that Obama himself said he would "immediately review the information" of possible crimes in the Bush administration should he get elected - I thought character and manufactured 'buzz' were important to the left.

[BABRAM]

Tom- you flip-flop or triangulate as often as the Republicans and Democrats. You went after Obama for not dissociating himself with Rev Wright, now say he through him under the bus.

[tomder55]

Well tell me Bobby... was he just doing what a politician does today when he flip flopped on the Right rev ? Or when was he telling the truth ? When he said that he had not heard the controverial things the rev said ;or when he said he could no longer disassociate himself from the rev than he could from the black race ? Or today when for political expediency he ripped the rev a new one ?

The whole point is that his early claim to the campaign ;that he was somehow above the fray has been totally exposed as a fiction in the last month.

Now that we know that he is not this transformational superman ;but instead just another Dem with positions not much different than his other Dem opponent ;the final issue for the Dem campaign is electability .