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    Apr 26, 2008, 06:02 PM
    Obama and his Pro-Gay Rights Agenda
    Of course, everyone that is a legal citizen of this country is entitled to their legal rights. However, there are a number of citizens who differ when it comes to presidential support for gay rights. How do YOU feel about this matter that Obama supports?

    Obama would use 'bully pulpit' to advance homosexual agenda (OneNewsNow.com)
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    Apr 26, 2008, 06:39 PM
    Anything to get the vote of a group of people.
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:01 PM
    So what's your problem with this?
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:03 PM
    Beginning to think SkyGem's real first name is Hillary...
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:04 PM
    As noted before, it is the liberals liberal, so that means he either believes in it or will swear to it for the vote. Of course believing in it, and actually passing laws for it, are two different things, they have to keep everyone a victim that needs the government to save them.
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:15 PM
    The victims were created by the present administration.
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:18 PM
    I support Obama from a civil rights standpoint that we shouldn't fear people that have a gay orientation. Personally as for as I'm concerned, and traditionally as far as my family, marriage is only for a man wedded to a woman. This is one reason among many of why I support home and private schooling, but that's a whole other subject. Anyway IMO gays that desire a lifetime commitment with their partner could option for a same sex union. Not termed a marriage, but a same sex union. On that point I disagree with Obama. However I do think that gays should be permitted health insurance based on proof of having the partner and tax concerns. Obviously debate can be made one way or the other that people either choose a gay lifestyle or are born with gay orientation desires (personally I think it's categorically both).
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    The victims were created by the present administration.
    I hope you don't really believe that, ( guess you do) the current admin is poor, but most of it has fault in the war and its spending, the tax plans has done more good than ever. But none of the canidates we have coming has any good plan to solve the US issues beyond just taxing all of us more that do work to pay for more free things for those that don't.

    But the liberals social programs are a page right out of the US socialists party web site.
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    So what's your problem with this?
    I am wanting to know how the general public feels about Obama's agenda on this topic. If he were to become elected and did not come through with what is said he would support, he would have serious problems down the road with constituents and supporters of gay rights. But if he did come through, there would be others who would probably be very upset with him as well. I am trying to find out who, as his supporters in this forum, would have a problem with his stance on this matter. Perhaps truly no one would, on principle. So, as "referee" I stay neutral in this.
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Izannah
    Beginning to think SkyGem's real first name is Hillary....
    Hey Bill, did you hear that! SURPRISE!!
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:23 PM
    He wouldn't be able to please all the people all the time, no matter what he does. Why worry about this now? The Bible says "there is a season...."
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyGem
    Hey Bill, did you hear that! SURPRISE!!!
    Ha, ha, ha. No, I'm not Hillary but that was a GOOD one! :)
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:25 PM
    The current administration is more government-oriented than the Dems are. The current crop of Republicans are not the kind and gentle people, individualists, I knew years ago.
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    He wouldn't be able to please all the people all the time, no matter what he does. Why worry about this now? The Bible says "there is a season...."
    That's GREAT you quote the Bible! Keep it up!
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:30 PM
    I was BORN holding a Bible.
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    I was BORN holding a Bible.
    CONGRATS to you then!
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:35 PM
    Sarcasm doesn't become you.

    Why do you need to figure out the gay thing now? It's months away in the lists of possibilities--unless Hillary wins.
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    Apr 26, 2008, 07:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    Sarcasm doesn't become you.

    Thanks! I'll take that as a compliment! Actually, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic but was actually sending kudos your way, from the heart, for being a Bible-believer.

    Why do you need to figure out the gay thing now? It's months away in the lists of possibilities--unless Hillary wins.
    Because there are some, right here in this forum no less, who think that Obama already has this all sewn up and in his front pocket. Whomever is the front-runner deserves to be grilled if he or she has an opponent. I have always personally believed that no stone should be left unturned as November is not that far away come to think of it and with just a few more states to go before the nominee becomes apparent. So, why not now?
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    Apr 26, 2008, 08:04 PM
    I know Obama has the primary nomination fairly sewn up. Mathematically it's an improbability for Clinton to overcome his numbers based on State by State projections using averages. The only way Obama doesn't get the nomination would be if the DNC permits the candidate to be railroaded via super-delegates. Should the DNC choose to risk such an outcome our country's system of democracy would be distrusted beyond excuse and our society bordering on civil unrest.
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    Apr 26, 2008, 08:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyGem
    Because there are some, right here in this forum no less, who think that Obama already has this all sewn up and in his front pocket. Whomever is the front-runner deserves to be grilled if he or she has an opponent. I have always personally believed that no stone should be left unturned as November is not that far away come to think of it and with just a few more states to go before the nominee becomes apparent. So, why not now?!
    Nah! Hillary still is hopin' to win the Dem nomination. That contest will go to the convention and will be decided there. If McCain doesn't age too much more by then, we will have three months to post all kinds of stuff here. And depending on who McCain's adversary is, the topics will vary considerably.

    Meanwhile, plant a garden, walk the dog, enjoy the spring weather, check out a book at your local public library.

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