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  • May 27, 2009, 06:41 PM
    Clough

    I agree with the Objective or Career Aspiration part not being necessary. However, with a younger person without a lot of job experiences, I think that it helps to include it so that it shows that the job applicant has done some thought as to a definite direction he or she wants to take with their career.

    With an older person, who has a lot of job experience over many years, their resume usually it what will show the direction that they want to take and have taken.

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 06:45 PM
    payasa14

    For my objective I got this... Objective: Seeking a career position with a Company, where professional experience, education and abilities would be an advantage to the growth of my employer and myself. Is that good or should I change it around a little?
  • May 27, 2009, 06:48 PM
    Clough

    Hi, payasa14!

    I think that you should personalize it and re-word it a little bit more.

    I'll show you what I mean in a couple of minutes. I need to work on it.

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 06:53 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Objective: Seeking a career position with a Company, where professional experience, education and abilities would be an advantage to the growth of my employer and myself. Is that good or should I change it around a little?
    Career Objective (or, it could be titled, Career Aspiration.)
    To find a position with a company that best utilizes my professional experience, education, skills and abilities to the best they can be in order to enable a company to achieve the goals that they have.

    Something like that, anyway. It's more personal and concise. Although, I'm sure that Wondergirl could make some improvements to it.

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 06:57 PM
    payasa14

    Okay, should I keep the professional experience part since I really don't have much experience in office work? Ok and next I...


    Relevant Skill:

    • Efficient with using Microsoft Word, Microsoft Works, and Microsoft Excel
    • Having experience of creation of correspondence from the given information
    • Accustomed to heavy telephone usage
    • Typing speed: 55wpm
    Have
  • May 27, 2009, 06:59 PM
    Clough

    Please let me work on that a minute or two.

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 07:00 PM
    Clough
    By the way, your Professional Experience, is going to be the heart (bulk) of your resume. At least, that's the way that it's been with mine.

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 07:02 PM
    Clough
    Okay, first thing. Where and in what way have you used Microsoft Word, Microsoft Works, and Microsoft Excel, please?

    Was this in relation to a job that you had?

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 07:03 PM
    payasa14
    Oh no I had computer app classes when I was in high school and we used these everyday.
  • May 27, 2009, 07:04 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    I agree with the Objective or Career Aspiration part not being necessary. However, with a younger person without a lot of job experiences, I think that it helps to include it

    I totally disagree. The cover letter can incorporate the objective very nicely.
  • May 27, 2009, 07:04 PM
    Clough

    Did you get a good grade in that class?
  • May 27, 2009, 07:05 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Career Objective (or, it could be titled, Career Aspiration.)
    To find a position with a company that best utilizes my professional experience, education, skills and abilities to the best they can be in order to enable a company to achieve the goals that they have.

    Something like that, anyway. It's more personal and concise. Although, I'm sure that Wondergirl could make some improvements to it.

    Thanks!

    I would not include it. It says absolutely nothing.
  • May 27, 2009, 07:05 PM
    payasa14

    An A.
  • May 27, 2009, 07:07 PM
    payasa14
    The objective just gives a little detail and then in the cover letter wouldn't I write more on that? Like what I'm trying to say in better words? So don't put it on there at all?
  • May 27, 2009, 07:08 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I totally disagree. The cover letter can incorporate the objective very nicely.

    Probably so. However, I still think that with a younger person, relatively inexperienced in going for jobs and having interviews, it helps to "round-out", so to speak, a shorter resume and thus make it appear more full and complete.

    My resume is two pages in length and I'm having to shorten and make it more concise all the time. It really shows what my career object has been. So, there's no need for it to be on the resume.

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 07:09 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by payasa14 View Post
    The objective just gives a little detail and then in the cover letter wouldnt I write more on that? Like what im trying to say in better words? So dont put it on there at all?

    No company cares about what you want to achieve for yourself. All they want to know is how you can make them money or save them money. Most Objectives are worthless.

    Only include it if it is tailored specifically for a particular job opening.
  • May 27, 2009, 07:09 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by payasa14 View Post
    An A.

    That's good! In incorporating it as far as a "Related Experience" section should work out very nicely!

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 07:11 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    ...... Most Objectives are worthless.

    But then, some aren't worthless.

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 07:12 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Probably so. However, I still think that with a younger person, relatively inexperienced in going for jobs and having interviews, it helps to "round-out", so to speak, a shorter resume and thus make it appear more full and complete.

    I think I will disappear and read a book. You two have fun pulling all this together.
  • May 27, 2009, 07:12 PM
    payasa14

    So where do I put my jobs and education at? Does it matter in what order there in?
  • May 27, 2009, 07:13 PM
    Clough

    Writing a resume is an art, and there's many ways that they can be done, payasa14. But, they should always be geared toward the job for which you're applying.

    I've spent over 37 years doing music for churches. I've done them at the same time that I've had teaching positions at schools.

    Would I include the church jobs in a resume? Not necessarily.

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 07:16 PM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by payasa14 View Post
    So where do I put my jobs and education at? Does it matter in what order there in?

    You just need a simple resume at this point in your career. There are at least these types types of resumes that are in use. Chronological, Functional, Combination and Targeted. There may be others, but I'm not sure what they're called. Certainly, any one resume could have all of the attributes of the kinds mentioned above.

    What specifically is called for you to do in the job for which you're applying, please?

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 07:20 PM
    payasa14

    What Im going to be doing in the job or what do you mean?
  • May 27, 2009, 07:25 PM
    Clough

    What you'll need to be doing clerically at the job. That's what I mean. They're going to be looking for your clerical skills, i.e. typing, (word processing and ten-key), filing, taking dictation, etc. Basically, what a secretary in an office that has a lot of paperwork might do. Correct?

    Or, will you be doing other things that aren't clerical in nature?

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 07:32 PM
    Clough

    Are you still there, payasa14?

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 07:41 PM
    payasa14

    Yeah ill be handling the mail, running to do things for the company, and pretty much everything else a secretary does
  • May 27, 2009, 07:42 PM
    Clough

    And, what of those sort of things have you done in the previous positions that you've held, please?

    Are you also going to be needing the ability to do spreadsheets?

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 07:50 PM
    payasa14

    Well I really haven't done these things just answer phone calls. I have only worked a fast food places. No I won't have to do spreadsheets.
  • May 27, 2009, 08:10 PM
    Clough

    I'm sorry, payasa14!

    I was on the phone! That's why it took me so long to respond.

    What I'm trying to find out from you, are the specifics to what you've already done, so that you can include them in a Skills Summary that could be at the very beginning of your resume, after the Heading.

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 08:23 PM
    payasa14

    Haha well see that's the thing I'm having trouble with... I really haven't done much that would relate to this job.
  • May 27, 2009, 09:04 PM
    Clough

    Then we need to think of the ways that will make you look the best for the job!

    I think that I've already asked these two questions previously.

    What is your typing speed and also what is your ten-key speed, please?

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 09:15 PM
    payasa14

    I type 55 wpm and not really sure about the ten key...
  • May 27, 2009, 09:17 PM
    payasa14
    Just tested myself it it says 20 wpm
  • May 27, 2009, 10:17 PM
    Clough

    Hi, payasa14!

    I'm still here! Was having some problems with connections to the Internet.

    Do you know where on the Internet that you can test yourself for ten-key?

    If you mean, 20 wpm for regular typing, you need to be at least at 40 wpm.

    Thanks!
  • May 27, 2009, 10:26 PM
    payasa14

    I type 55-60 wpm on regular typing. Im not that good at the ten speed... tested myself came up to 20.
  • Jun 1, 2009, 02:08 PM
    Clough

    Hi, payasa14!

    Did you finish what you were trying to do here?

    Thanks!
  • Jun 1, 2009, 02:26 PM
    payasa14

    Yea is did thank you for your helps
  • Jun 2, 2009, 10:47 PM
    Clough

    I'm glad that you were able to finish your project! I hope that it is satisfactory to you!

    Here is a link to one of my favorite typing sites where you can practice your typing of documents and also practice ten-key.

    http://www.learn2type.com/

    I wish and hope for you only the best!

    Thanks!
  • Jun 2, 2009, 10:52 PM
    payasa14

    Gota interview tomorrow so hope I get the job!
  • Jun 2, 2009, 10:55 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by payasa14 View Post
    Gota interview tomorrow so hope I get the job!!

    Best wishes!!

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