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What is it that people believe? So often questions show that people have no concept of forgiveness and the unforgivable sin, Jesus died so that we have perfect access to grace and forgiveness of our shortcomings, our sins, all we need to do is embrace Jesus and admit our failures and yet people don't get this. Why?
It is too simple, religions want to add rules, or guidelines and make it harder for people to accept
Why do you care what others believe or don't believe? Can't it be a personal issue for individual people?
Jesus' two great commandments = love God and love each other. Then, like Chuck said, Christian churches build fences around that to make God small (lots of rules and regs) and make it hard for people to embrace Him.
Fact is-- too many times forgiving someone just puts one in a position to do more forgiving. You are being an option in someone else's life while they expect to be a priority in your life.
(The actual quote has been used by several members on this site in various forms).
Will non-forgivers be themselves forgiven on judgment day if they have not been saved? Many religious folks would say NO.
Can one be admitted to heaven if not baptized or if not baptized in a certain way? Again, many say NO.
Every religion has its list of unforgivable sins, maybe plain ordinary folk do too. Except for the certain sins (each religion has their own list) can't we just be forgiven at the last minute anyhow?
Should the spouses who were battered have just forgiven and not posted? The guy whose wife comes home in the wee hours with no explanation? And why should we (NK said it best above) think that all those posting questions share our Christian beliefs anyhow?
It is not easy to forgive but it becomes easier over time, the point is by not forgiving the only person we are hurting is ourselves
NK,
Why do people care about beliefs? That is very east to answer it is because people with faith in the Lord Jesus Christ believe in eternity. We believe that everyone will spend it somewhere and Christians don't want anyone to spend it apart from God. The kindest and most loving thing a person can and will ever do for you is give you the gospel.
I have met many people in my life that I didn't care for. However, I have never met a single person yet that I wanted to end up in hell and living apart from God forever. That is why I care what a person believes.
That's not what I said though. I said "Why do you care what others believe or don't believe?".Quote:
Why do people care about beliefs?
NK,
I may have worded your question incorrectly but I answered it correctly did I not?
Not really. You said at the end "That is why I care what a person believes" but you really don't explain why what someone else believes matters to you. If you don't believe that they go to hell if they don't share your belief then what is it? Is it simply because they aren't doing the same thing as you?
The Christian mandate is to evangelize -- Matthew 28:19 (KJV): "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"
Ah, I see. Imagine if every religion compelled its adherents to do that.
NK,
No. Actually NK on most subjects I like people who have a different opinion on things because the world would be boring otherwise. So NO, the reason I care isn't because I want everyone to believe just like me. The reason I care is because I don't want Anyone to die in their sins and end up in eternity lost and without God. AND I believe to my core that if a person does not accept Jesus Christ as their savior they will be lost for all eternity. As silly as that may sound to you... I believe it. Therefore I can't help but care what a person believes in regards to this. But I also believe everyone has the right to accept this or reject the gospel AND I respect their choice.
It certainly would turn us all into great salesmen!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
NK,
If you saw someone headed towards a cliff and was about to fall off wouldn't you want to warn them? Just asking
It would be one of the circles of hell (if such a place existed). :-)Quote:
It certainly would turn us all into great salesmen!
Yes. How does that apply to someone's beliefs in a god?Quote:
If you saw someone headed towards a cliff and was about to fall off wouldn't you want to warn them? Just asking
When people die they just die and return to dust. A "sin" is a made-up construct, it can't even be defined.Quote:
I don't want Anyone to die in their sins and end up in eternity lost
You said that and then went on to say exactly the opposite -- you really do want everyone to believe like you do so they won't go to hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by classyT
How do you know that?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
What happens to a body (or any living organism) when it dies?Quote:
How do you know that?
NK,
Well because. I believe accepting Jesus in the only way to be with God in heaven. I want to let everyone know this because I don't want them in eternity without God. For me? THAT is far worse than falling off a cliff.
But anyway, really Christianity has so much more to offer. It isn't just about eternity, it is about this life and living it to the fullest too. Jesus said he came that we might have life and have it more abundantly.
The body, yes, but what about the personality or spirit or soul or whatever you want to call it? That dies too?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
That's what I'm doing. :)Quote:
it is about this life and living it to the fullest too.
Yep.Quote:
but what about the personality or spirit or soul or whatever you want to call it? That dies too?
And maybe you are more of a Christian than you realize.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
That you don't know since there is nothing visible to see getting buried and decaying.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
That implies that living live to its fullest is a christian quality which I can assure you that it is not unique to that religion or belief.Quote:
And maybe you are more of a Christian than you realize.
Ok.Quote:
That you don't know since there is nothing visible to see getting buried and decaying.
Honest answer? They either believe there's something in it for them or they are care about you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
It is a personal issue but concern for others and allowing them to decide for themselves are not mutually exclusive events.Quote:
Can't it be a personal issue for individual people?
So what have you decided speech
About what?
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