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Adam,
I'm sorry but I do not believe that the Swine Flu is a fraud.
Millions of people have had it and hundreds have died from it.
In my area there are 17 confirmed case of it.
Very young and very old people are advised to take the shot to prevent that flu when the shot becomes available.
I'm a sick man and 76 years old.
I'd be a fool NOT to take it.
I feel very sorry for those people who are mislead about the swine flu and angry with those who are purposely misleading people about it.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
Thank you for your thoughts brother Fred!
It is a great pity that someone wants to use religious paranoia to discredit what is a realistic health threat. At this point the (A)H1N1 virus hasn't proven to be the killer that has been predicted but we have to understand that this is the same virus which caused the Spanish Flu almost a century ago with devastating results. In that time many of us may have become immune to it but this doesn't lessen the potential of it. We can be assured that pestilence is one of the problems we face in this age and we need to be sensible and take the precautions that are available, particularly if there are underlying health problems because such people are those at greater riskQuote:
Originally Posted by adam7gur
AMHD
Thank you for moving this thread to the right place!
H1N1 is a real virus.
The question is, how deadly is the virus?
So far, "not very deadly" is the answer.
Nevertheless, the disease is widespread. It has the POTENTIAL to evolve into something more deadly than we have seen in the past.
On the other hand, the seasonal flu is ALSO widespread, and also kills. There's no real difference.
Should we take action? That's probably going to be up to you. (Unless something RADICAL happens, and H1N1 mutates into something so deadly that it kills everyone it touches... in which case the government will likely step in and create a system of FORCED IMMUNIZATION as a matter of survival. But that scenario is highly unlikely.)
I suffer from asthma. For that reason, I get flu shots every year. I'll be getting one this year as well. Likely, I will get the H1N1 vaccine as well... why take the risk of Swine Flu if I suffer from asthma?
The choice will be yours.
Which leads me to ask this: What kind of cconspiracy could this flu vaccine possibly be if you get to choose whether you take it or not? Unless someone can FORCE you to take the shot, such a conspiracy wouldn't get too far, would it?
I think that conspiracy theories are silly. Most of the time, nobody can point to a "goal" or a reason that someone would want to perform the cconspiracy in the first place. What are they planning on accomplishing? And usually when you point that out to the conpiracy theorist, they tell you that the reason that nobody knows the reason for such a conspiracy is part of the conspiracy to begin with. In other words, the questioning of the conpiracy theories feed the conspiracy theories. Circular logic.
Next question, why would any decent conpirator, who is trying to hide his actions from the world, name parts of his conspiracy after things that DENOTE the conspiracy?
For instance, in the case of the H1N1 conspiracy theory in the OP, why would the conpirators name their cell line "PER.C6" if they are trying to HIDE the connection to "Persius"? Why make such an "obvious" connection if they are trying to HIDE their conspiracy?
Ask that of a conspiracy theorist, and you will often get a lecture about how stupid these supposedly brilliant conspirators are.
Kind of like George Bush... the dumbest man in the world and yet the most Machiavellian schemer in the world... both at the same time. Brilliant and dumb...
Pure silliness. If you are stupid, you can't run a conspiracy worth a damn. If you're smart, you don't make stupid mistakes like the "conspirators" routinely do.
Ain't no conspiracies here. JFK was shot by one gun by Lee Harvey Oswald. There is no Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The Freemasons aren't secretly taking over the world. And the drug industry is not out to make us into slavering zombies.
Elliot
I fully agree with paraclete and ETWolverine.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
That would appear to be a prophesy in the form of a vision and Scripture tells us all prophesy must be judged and confirmed by two or three witnesses. Therefore be very careful about listening to such prophesies until there is confirmation for the devil wanders about like a roaring lion looking for those he can devour.Quote:
Originally Posted by adam7gur
There are some specific things that were said that can be judged
The number of victims said to be a third of humanity dead
The compulsorary nature of the injection
The shepards being asleep
paraclete.
Excellent point.
Thanks,
Fred
Yes Paraclete you are very right!Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
The thing is that I AM confirming this message.I had a similar, not so detailed, myself before reading this!
I know this is true!
Instead of judging it by knowledge of the Bible, judge it by the Spirit of God that dwells inside you!Let Him tell you if this is true or not!
I expect you think this cure came from hellQuote:
Originally Posted by adam7gur
Antiviral drug Relenza works where Tamiflu fails | World Breaking News | News.com.au
Most advances are accidential and the cure for H1N1 may prove to be no different
paraclete,
That it may be, but I'm glad that it is working.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
I agree that it is real but the question is is the government using it to their advantage to get us relying more on the drug industry?
I don't put it past the government. Look at agent orange and many other of their 'projects'.
Your chances of getting the swine flu decrease/increase with your overall health.
If you eat healthy, take care of yourself and take vitamins and supplements like C, B complex, D3, zinc and echineacha you are decreasing your chances of getting it.
With echineacha you have to take it on an on/off basis.
I do not trust the flu shots whatsoever. They said Tamiflu shots killed some teen age girls in Korea
What motive do they have? Probably one you cannot think of. Better safe than sorry.Quote:
I agree that it is real but the question is is the government using it to their advantage to get us relying more on the drug industry?
Like what? Agent Orange was an absolute disaster of in theatre strategic planning, that resembles this issue in what way?Quote:
I don't put it past the government. Look at agent orange and many other of their 'projects'.
Very good advice for healthy living.Quote:
Your chances of getting the swine flu decrease/increase with your overall health.
If you eat healthy, take care of yourself and take vitamins and supplements like C, B complex, D3, zinc and echineacha you are decreasing your chances of getting it.
With echineacha you have to take it on an on/off basis.
It seems like the only time the U.S people approve of the U.S government, is when they are bombing the sh@t out of some poor sods.Quote:
I do not trust the flu shots whatsoever. They said Tamiflu shots killed some teen age girls in Korea
T00 MANY absolute disasters!
Motivation?
I don't even want to get into it since you most likely aren't interested anyway.
I don't see any 'safety' in the shots whatsoever.
Exactly and they have even admitted time and again that the shots can not be made accurate for the particular flu because a lot of it is guess work on what strain and how strong it will be. The viruses mutate as well making the shots ineffective. Many people die from the shots too.Quote:
Originally Posted by firmbeliever
There are many videos against the flu shots and the drug companies and I trust them more!
BTW Adam thanks for the link
I agree with it basically.
At your service Nohelp4u!
N0help4u,
I'll take the shots.
I've been taking flu shots for years and have not had the flu, but others who did not take them have had the flu.
Fred
That is not how prophesy is confirmed, prophesy is confirmed when another person who has no fore knowledge of an earlier message brings forth a message under the unction of the Holy Spirit. What you are saying is that this other person is confirming your prophesy. Well I still place it in the to be judged category and I would like to hear other confirming witnesses from a place where there hasn't been discussion of H1N1Quote:
Originally Posted by adam7gur
Remember some of the criteria I suggested for judgement
Enforced admission of the vaccine
The number of victims said to be a third of humanity dead
The shepards being asleep
And to this I would add
Evidence that those who have received the vaccine might be demon possessed. The nature of the particular possession that legion exhibited
Included insanity, self harm, rage. Multiple personality disorder, So with widespread injection it shouldn't take a degeneration in mental health long to show up and there to be widespead death.
paraclete,
THAT is very interesting.
Thanks for posting it.
Fred
Just to help you all out Australia will have developed two vaccines by the end of the year
paraclete,
I think that is good news for the nice folks down under.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
I expect it will be good news for people everywhere fredQuote:
Originally Posted by arcura
paraclete,
Could be.
I NEVER trusted the shots. People do die from the shots. Also many people get 'flu like symptoms' from the shots. I have known enough that that has happened to.
I do not believe THIS shot is the one that will contain the leprosy type stuff or be demoned possessed as Paraclete said but I do believe it is only a matter of time. Either a shot or the RFID implant is going to cause leprosy symptoms. Right now these shots are mainly preparing us to be complacent to accepting anything.
I think it was a bit useless that they have developed it already but aren't releasing it until at least next month...Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I have already had the flu so I'm immune, as have a lot of my friends.. would have been nice to become immune to it by injection instead of a week of being miserable.
N0help... I can understand where you are coming from but from my perspective flu shots are great... I have never known anyone to have ill effects from protecting themselves with the vaccines.
I have known quit a few that were puzzled at why they got the shot when they ended up with the flu from the shot. My mom quit taking them because of that.
The fourth horseman of Revelation would apparently include pestilence (disease). However these events will not begin before the rapture of the Church.
In the meantime, there will be many various diseases to deal with.
For perspective, we need to remember how many people die every year from medical procedures and from taking medicines prescribed by their doctors. I don't have the figures before me, but it surpasses by far the number of people who die from the flu.
I will not be taking the flu shot myself. I may be immune, as I had some kind of bad flu when I was 18 years old. Was sick for a week with fever, etc.
Hey I never suggested the shots would cause demonic possession,I argued against such nonsense. If you don't like the shots available in your own country order the Australian vaccine it's sure to be pure. We are assured that one of the things we will have to deal with in these days is pestilence and H1N1 falls into that category and there will be worse to comeQuote:
Originally Posted by N0help4u
I do agree with that.
Here is an article that says many nurses are against the swine flu shots because they have not been tested enough.
LI nurses to rally against mandatory swine flu vaccines
N0help4u,
Never the less if I can get the shot I will for my health is bad now as a diabetic and 76 years old.
So I will chance it that it will work for me.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
Hi risk eh? Go for it Fred, you should have it just in case. Say as a fellow diabetic I'm interested how are they treating you?Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
I'm not a nurse, I'm not a doctor, but I am working in the clinics offering the flu shot and the H1N1 shot. In fact, we started immunizing for H1N1 yesterday.
I can only tell you what I've been told.
NoHelp, I do want to address the symptoms of flu that can happen after getting the shot. Those symptoms only happen to a small percentage of people and usually go away within 24 hours. It's usually no more then a light fever and fatigue. The flu shot is not a live vaccine, so it's not possible to get the flu from the shot.
As for getting the flu despite getting the shot, that one's easy to answer. Every year the CDC determines which flu will be most prevalent and they create the vaccine for that strain. Sadly there are too many strains to immunize against. So, you're unlikely to get the strain that you were vaccinated for, but you can still catch another strain.
I once felt like many of you, I refused to get the shot because I wasn't properly informed. Now that I have the information I can say that not only did I get the seasonal flu shot I will be getting the H1N1 shot as well, as will my children.
As for any religious aspects of this, well, think long enough about anything and I'm sure you can find some way to twist it around and blame it on Satan.
Alty, I have to spread the love, but thank you for learning what you have learned your short time back in the workforce. It sure saved me a lot of typing :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Altenweg
I have to say that it was very interesting learning about all of this. It definitely put my mind at ease about both vaccines.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_9
Sadly the media is wreaking havoc on this vaccine and many people are buying the hype. Too many people are rejecting the vaccine because of misinformation. Many more people are thinking they don't need to get vaccinated because everyone else is. That's not the case.
When the swine flu first started making the news we were told that it was contained, now I personally know 10 people that have gotten it and I know of one person who lost a loved one because of it. It's foolish not to protect yourself if protection is available.
I'm afraid that many people will probably die needlessly.
Alty, I know one person who has died from it and he was the husband of our dead of surgery, he had NO health issues at all... was perfectly healthy. I have also transferred a pregnant patient to a higher level of care recently. She was 33 weeks and was placed on a respirator. I don't know her outcome.
The media frenzy is scaring everyone. Our local Children's hospital has been on the national news as they have lost a few patients and have set up a state-of-the-art pre-screening system.
I had my seasonal flu shot the beginning of October. Last week I got my H1N1 vaccine. No, my arm didn't fall off, nor did it turn green. I simply took 2 Tylenol before the vaccine and 2 more 4 hours later. I am, though, wearing my tin foil hat so that it will interfere with the microchip implanted in my arm. LOL
J, didn't I send you the tinfoil underwear? It's important to protect every part of your body. ;)
We didn't have the H1N1 shot available until yesterday. I'm sick right now, cough, fever, congestion, so I'll be waiting to get mine, but I got my flu shot the second day that I started working at the clinic. It was a slow day, I was bored, so I filled out my paperwork and got the shot. The nurse that gave me my shot was great, I didn't feel a thing.
My kids school has sent home a pamphlet expressing the importance of getting this immunization for our kids.
Since I have a chance to ask you this and I've been meaning to but keep forgetting, Jared is getting a booster shot this month at school. I don't know what's in the booster, but I would assume it's standard for 5th grade. My question is, does he have to wait to get the flu shot and H1N1 shot?
Most likely no, but it would depend on what the vaccination is for. One gal I work with got the flu shot in one arm and minutes later the H1N1 in the other arm and she suffered no consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altenweg
Umm, maybe you have the wrong address 'cause I didn't get the underwear. I still need the socks too. :rolleyes:
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