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  • Jul 21, 2009, 09:03 PM
    excon
    Dirty words
    Hello Christians, and anyone else who is offended by down home cussing:

    I started thinking about words. I'm not offended by any of them. Some of the worst, are actually the best, in my view. But, I know some people are, and I wanted to talk to them. You guys are the closest to the ones whom I'd expect are offended by certain words...

    Ok, is it the WORD, or what the word suggests that is offensive? Like, how is, "that's freaking good" OK, as opposed to "that's f***** good"? Is even writing that word the way I just did using lots of ***'s, offensive??

    excon
  • Jul 21, 2009, 09:07 PM
    Alty

    I shouldn't answer because words don't offend me, they're just words, they only have power if you give them power.

    That's all I have to say about that. :)
  • Jul 21, 2009, 09:41 PM
    simoneaugie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    I shouldn't answer because words don't offend me, they're just words, they only have power if you give them power.

    That's all I have to say about that. :)

    Hey, Forrest Gump says that last sentence!

    Ex, it's about attitude. And if a person is addicted to using those words they frequently fall into the category of the fallen. I love the F word. But then, if someone uses it for more than 8 parts of speech it starts to get boring.

    Attitude. What do I mean? Do you know what I mean? It's something about "not supposed to." Those words "aren't nice, so they are not allowed..." When someone tells me not to do something that actually causes harm, I listen.
  • Jul 21, 2009, 10:35 PM
    mudweiser

    I don't really mind them. I agree with Simone, you can throw around too many F bombs.

    Slap my face and call me Sally, I cuss, not in every sentence but I say the occasional "sh!t" when something happens... so now my two year old says it,I can't really punish her for saying it-- after all monkey see monkey do. If I hear her cussing I usually replace the world like "f-ck" turns into "duck"--- I heard her say "Oh DUCK" the other day. Doesn't bother me. She'll cuss when she's older. Some may think I'm a bad parent for this but well... F you. Kidding.

    I do however respect other people because most people are offended by using profanity and I realize some words actually hurt others so I stay clear of that. It's also not like I'm going to be going to a job interview saying "Thanks for the f--ng interview"

    So to conclude, I don't cuss at people... I usually cuss at myself.

    ... Sarah
  • Jul 22, 2009, 07:56 AM
    rnrg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Christians, and anyone else who is offended by down home cussing:

    I started thinking about words. I'm not offended by any of them. Some of the worst, are actually the best, in my view. But, I know some people are, and I wanted to talk to them. You guys are the closest to the ones whom I'd expect are offended by certain words....

    Ok, is it the WORD, or what the word suggests that is offensive? Like, how is, "that's freaking good" OK, as opposed to "that's f***** good"? Is even writing that word the way I just did using lots of ***'s, offensive???

    excon




    I am a Christian and have children. I don't like listening to it at all. And, I definitely don't like for my children to hear it. Even before I was a Christian, I did not use bad language because it sounded degrading, nasty, and served no purpose.

    I am somewhat offended by all methods, but mostly disappointed in the user since he has no control over himself. It also shows he has no respect for himself or others around him. It almost always has negative consequences. There ARE healthy ways to "vent."

    Does that mean that I don't hear it. No, it is all around me. For me, I choose not to use "bad language" because the Bible plainly states, "to not left any corrupt communication come from your mouth." So, I don't use it or think it.

    My questions is back to you as to why you feel like you need to use it. There is so much more positive words that you could choose. IT IS more of a challenge to bridle your tongue and control it, than to let it run wild.

    If you, Mr. Excon, really use this type of language, then I CHALLENGE you to try to "bridle" your tongue for a week and SEE if you are able to bring it under control. What do you have to lose?

    "A horse under control will bring his master honor, but one out of control will only bring death." Rita
  • Jul 22, 2009, 08:03 AM
    NeedKarma
    I have a pretty thick skin as you probably know. Words don't offend me. HOWEVER I am teaching my kids what I have been taught: overuse of standard swearing words reveals a lack of vocabulary and a generalized problem with socializing with others.
  • Jul 22, 2009, 08:03 AM
    88sunflower
    I use those words all the time. But in the proper audiences. I wouldn't started saying F this and F that in church or in line at the grocery store. I think there are times and places they shouldn't be used only for the offense of others listening. But at the same time, what makes them offensive? They are all words in the dictionary like every other. Its an individual choice to use them and an individual choice if they offend you or not.
  • Jul 22, 2009, 08:10 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rnrg View Post
    then I CHALLENGE you to try to "bridle" your tongue for week and SEE if you are able to bring it under control. What have you got to lose?

    Hello rita:

    Thanks for your comments... I think we're getting somewhere.. It's really not a matter of "bridling" my tongue. In order to DO that, or even CONSIDER doing that, I would have to think that my tongue is about to utter something fowl.

    When I swear, I don't consider it fowl at all. It adds a certain color and depth to the conversation. In fact, there are certain swear words that simply can't be replaced by any other.

    That's not to say that I don't consider others within earshot. I respect that people, like yourself, don't want to hear it, and I don't impose my will upon others.

    Instead of ME changing my thinking, I suggest that you consider that when I swear, I don't think I'm doing anything wrong, and don't think I have anything to "bridle".

    excon
  • Jul 22, 2009, 08:17 AM
    adam_89

    I never have found it proper to just throw the words around in front of people but I have no problem with using them of other people using them. I just choose who I say them in front of. I was told at work that I am not allowed to say the F word in front of female co-workers because they might get offended and press sexual harrasement charges. I don't see how that makes sense but I have to follow by it. Also I am not allowed to cuss over the CB in my office because we aren't allowed to say them over radio waves even though everyone does. I don't know if we would get shut down using them or what. I was always told it isn't proper to say the words in front of ladies so I try to refrain from that. Now something I never have said and never will is using the lords name in vain. I don't believe it is practicing good faith. Anyway, if anyone says the words in front of me, I will not care.
  • Jul 22, 2009, 08:23 AM
    spitvenom

    I swear all the time. I try not to swear in front of kids but a few slip out. My family curses all the time. The best was when my wife first met my family I had to explain to her look we don't talk to each other we yell and curse at each other. We aren't mad or anything like that it's just the way we are. 8 years later she is still uncomfortable.

    To me it isn't a big deal. Like Ex said you can say frick or frak or talk like Ned Flanders from the Simpsons but we know what you really mean. I love when They dub out curses on TV like I'm going to kill that mickeyficky.
  • Jul 22, 2009, 08:51 AM
    jmjoseph
    Excon, I do, and have, cussed like a sailor. I'm not proud of it, but I still do it. Usually at work, mainly. I have two young sons that think I'm omnipotent, so I really have to watch my mouth around them. It's not that hard, I just do it automatically. I don't use the " F " word around my wife, or other women that much either. But it's really ironic that you bring this point up right now. There's a guy that I work with that was " saved" 5 years ago, and he takes every opportunity to call someone out for using profanity. I mean da**, sh**, "light" cuss words . You see, this guy has raised more "heck" in his life than ANYBODY else I know. Drugs, alcohol, a real wild one. But now that he's found the Lord, he's "offended" by such words. He really plays it up too, like he wants everyone to KNOW he is a strict Christian, so he purposely EMBARRASSES people that use these words around him. Once he called out our senior manager in a crowded conference room for saying " shooting the sh**". Totally unnecessary in my book. I think he did it just to prove that he was newly " annointed". It's not like he's Amish or something like that. You see, he still goes to , and rents R rated movies that warn of profanity, so don't tell me it's that big of a deal. It would be like me, a former smoker, coughing and complaining about someone that is smoking around me. In the meantime , I'm respectful, and trying to watch my mouth. Words are just words, some truly hurt to the core, but lets pick our battles. Television shows nowadays are filled with profanity that makes me cringe when my kids are watching. But, adults should be a little more *7^5$#@! Tolerant.
  • Jul 22, 2009, 08:57 AM
    rnrg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello rita:

    Thanks for your comments... I think we're getting somewhere.. It's really not a matter of "bridling" my tongue. In order to DO that, or even CONSIDER doing that, I would have to think that my tongue is about to utter something fowl.

    When I swear, I don't consider it fowl at all. It adds a certain color and depth to the conversation. In fact, there are certain swear words that simply can't be replaced by any other.

    That's not to say that I don't consider others within earshot. I respect that people, like yourself, don't want to hear it, and I don't impose my will upon others.

    Instead of ME changing my thinking, I suggest that you consider that when I swear, I don't think I'm doing anything wrong, and don't think I have anything to "bridle".

    excon


    Thanks for being so honest. So far I have determined that you are intelligent and emotional but numb in the "what is a "bad word" category. A nice but somewhat awkward personality.

    It definitely sounds like you have made it a "habit." A habit, you know, is something we do without thinking about it. It becomes a part of us. If you have children, you know that habits are the hardest to break.

    Because you said you respect others within earshot, this means that you are aware of what you are saying. Do you choose not to "cuss" before them out of respect for the listeners, OR do you choose not to "cuss" because you have a sense of "It is wrong."

    I am an adult, and even I have habits that need to be broken. So, we are not so different. I, however, make an effort to "check" any habits that are offensive and "wrong" before God. (I am a Christian and I have to answer to Him.) I also read His word and know what pleases and displeases Him.

    What happened to your conscience? Would you take my word for it that it was wrong? Would you take God's word for it that it was wrong? Did your parents not tell you it was wrong? Whose teaching did you leave behind? Whose teachings did you pick up?

    I disagree with you where you said that there are certain swear words that can't be replaced by others. I wonder how I managed to live my entire 46 years and not utter one of them. I was not even raised in a Christian home and heard bad language even then. I just chose not to use them. Even then I had a sense of right and wrong.

    If God stood before you, would you use "bad language?" What is your sense of right and wrong. Would you teach your children to curse? Would you teach anyone to curse? I still issue the challenge just to see if you can use "flowery" words when you feel the need to use your selection.

    You can always get back to me next week and tell me your progress. Just a note, I harbor no ill will (just disappointment) towards those that use bad language. As a Christian, I rub shoulders with non-Christians all the time. (I am sure that there may be Christians that use bad language as well.) Most of them have respect for me, and choose not not use "language." I respect them for it. Look forward to your reply.

    "A fog will always cover the beauty around us." Rita
  • Jul 22, 2009, 09:08 AM
    Synnen

    Personally, I find words like "God is the only way to salvation" MORE offending than the F-bomb.

    Perhaps those people that think I should not say "F**k" in front of their kids should not talk about God in front of me, because I find that offensive.

    My mother calls my dad a "horse's patoot" when she's mad at him. Seriously--is that any BETTER than calling him an arse, which is what she means?

    What about the use of the word bloody? My English friend uses that word as often as some of my friends use the F word. Same with "wanker" instead of "sh*thead".

    If I say "god bless it" instead of "god damn it"---but mean the SAME thing when I say it--does it really matter what I'm SAYING?

    /shrug

    It comes down to this: If you don't like it, then don't say it. Teach your kids that it's wrong. But don't tell ME that I can't say it, because I'll be too busy teaching my kids that talking about religion in mixed company is rude and offensive.

    (yeah, that was a bit of a soapbox)
  • Jul 22, 2009, 09:09 AM
    jmjoseph
    If it's not using the Lord's name in vain, is it against His will? Or is it society's will?
  • Jul 22, 2009, 09:12 AM
    excon

    Hello again, rita:

    Look. I'm not buying your "swearing is wrong" theory, so I have no "habit" to break.

    I am aware that certain people don't like to hear certain words. I don't utter them out of respect for the PEOPLE. But, it doesn't mean I agree with them.

    You ask about my teachings as if to suggest that I've been taught wrong. Hmmm. I wonder what teachings YOU have that would cause you to make such a judgment. In fact, I could say that it's YOUR teachings that have you fogged in - not the other way around

    excon
  • Jul 22, 2009, 09:38 AM
    rnrg

    You did ask Christians along with others to answer. I was only giving an answer. In all honesty, I was not judging you but only going by what you said in your post.

    You assumed that Christians were offended by language and to that I responded. You wanted to know why. If a person is a Christian they will be somewhat offended by bad language.

    Where did I get my teachings? From my parents when I was young. Then when I became a Christian, I read in the Bible where it was wrong.

    I was not preaching to you but only sharing a part of my Christian walk and my use of bad language. It was not meant to offend anyone that uses curse words. Besides, I assumed everyone's parents or peers had told them it was not right to use bad language.

    I was truly interested in how you had no trouble in saying them. Was my question not fair since you did ask it of Christians along with others? My answers were given in a playful manner. Sorry for all that I offended. Rita
  • Jul 22, 2009, 10:02 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rnrg View Post
    Besides, I assumed everyone's parents or peers had told them it was not right to use bad language.

    I was truly interested in how you had no trouble in saying them.

    Hello again, Rita:

    There was a time in my life when I lived by other people's standards. Then I discovered my own. Mine are better.

    excon
  • Jul 22, 2009, 10:20 AM
    rnrg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Rita:

    There was a time in my life when I lived by other people's standards. Then I discovered my own. Mine are better.

    excon


    Excon,
    Fair enough. I can somewhat relate. There was a time in my life when I lived by my standards. Then I discovered God and His were better.

    Thanks for being honest and open with me. Rita
  • Jul 22, 2009, 10:32 AM
    DrJ

    rnrg, I'm curious what words you have chosen God to mean when He said "corrupt communication". No, I'm not asking you to list them or even describe them. But ask yourself, "why those words?" Certainly, God nor Jesus spoke of a list of what words were OK and what words were not.. especially since those words, and the language they are even spoken in, didn't even exist then.

    Somewhere along the way, society began making it's own decisions with what words belong in that category. So really the one you are obeying is society, not God.

    If someone doesn't feel that certain words are corrupt in the eyes of God, why should he be bound to the "laws" that society has placed on them?

    Surely God meant the manner in which one speaks rather than the words themselves. An evil tongue and corrupt communication is achieved in much more deliberate ways than simply uttering specific words used to color ones point.
  • Jul 22, 2009, 11:55 AM
    rnrg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DrJizzle View Post
    rnrg, I'm curious what words you have chosen God to mean when He said "corrupt communication". No, I'm not asking you to list them or even describe them. But ask yourself, "why those words?" Certainly, God nor Jesus spoke of a list of what words were ok and what words were not.. especially since those words, and the language they are even spoken in, didn't even exist then.

    Somewhere along the way, society began making it's own decisions with what words belong in that category. So really the one you are obeying is society, not God.

    If someone doesn't feel that certain words are corrupt in the eyes of God, why should he be bound to the "laws" that society has placed on them?

    Surely God meant the manner in which one speaks rather than the words themselves. An evil tongue and corrupt communication is achieved in much more deliberate ways than simply uttering specific words used to color ones point.



    I can agree with you that corrupt communication is achieved in much more ways.

    I have not chosen any words, though. Before I was a Christian I knew a good word from a bad word because I had a conscience. Then when I became a Christian, God begin to clean up my use of "slangs." No one person had to tell me.

    Also, if there was nothing wrong with these "bad" words, why would we tell our children not to say them. Is there a time in their young life that we will later tell them that it is okay. Society is not the only one that says these words are wrong. God may not have listed each one but he does know the intent of a person's heart when they say them. The verses below were written by God. When we become Christians, the Holy Spirit makes sure we are aware when we say something offensive, whether it is a sarcastic remark, a "curse" word, being rude, or insensitive. This includes filthy talking. In God's eyes, it is wrong.

    Colossians 3:8) KJV “But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.”

    I do know that as a Christian we should watch our language because we are representing God. Here are several verses that God has given us that I try to live by.

    Ephesians 4:29) KJV “Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.”

    Ephesians 5:4) KJV “Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.”

    (Matthew 5:16) KJV “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.”

    (Matthew 15:11) Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

    (Matthew 7:18) KJV “A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.”

    We are known by our fruits. As Christians we should not be known by fruits of foul speech.
    Again, this is the way by which I live. No one has to agree with me or even be offended. But, Christians were asked to respond to this post. In the end, it is I that will have to stand before God and give an account of every idle word that I have said. Just another note, there are both believers and non-believers that choose not to use bad language.
    Mine is because of God's word. Please understand that nothing that I have said was meant as offensive. For me, it is wrong.
  • Jul 22, 2009, 11:58 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rnrg View Post
    Before I was a Christian I knew a good word from a bad word because I had a conscience. Then when I became a Christian, God begin to clean up my use of "slangs." No one person had to tell me.

    Just curious, how did God clean up your slang?
  • Jul 22, 2009, 12:20 PM
    rnrg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Just curious, how did God clean up your slang?

    God's Holy Spirit that lives inside a believer convicted me each time that I would say a particular "slang," not to mention anything else that did not line up with what God says. That is part of having a relationship with God. God is without sin, and He expects and expected me to live my life in a way that would bring Him glory. Every believer goes through the same thing. Everything matters to God and that includes our speech.

    It didn't happen overnight, but it did happen.
  • Jul 22, 2009, 12:27 PM
    NeedKarma
    Interesting. I don't have voices in my head but I still self-moderate.
  • Jul 22, 2009, 01:55 PM
    DrJ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rnrg View Post
    I can agree with you that corrupt communication is achieved in much more ways.

    I have not chosen any words, though. Before I was a Christian I knew a good word from a bad word because I had a conscience. Then when I became a Christian, God begin to clean up my use of "slangs." No one person had to tell me.

    Also, if there was nothing wrong with these "bad" words, why would we tell our children not to say them. Is there a time in their young life that we will later tell them that it is okay. Society is not the only one that says these words are wrong. God may not have listed each one but he does know the intent of a person's heart when they say them. The verses below were written by God. When we become Christians, the Holy Spirit makes sure we are aware when we say something offensive, whether it is a sarcastic remark, a "curse" word, being rude, or insensitive. This includes filthy talking. In God's eyes, it is wrong.

    Colossians 3:8) KJV “But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.”

    I do know that as a Christian we should watch our language because we are representing God. Here are several verses that God has given us that I try to live by.

    Ephesians 4:29) KJV “Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.”

    Ephesians 5:4) KJV “Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.”

    (Matthew 5:16) KJV “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.”

    (Matthew 15:11) Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

    (Matthew 7:18) KJV “A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.”

    We are known by our fruits. As Christians we should not be known by fruits of foul speech.
    Again, this is the way by which I live. No one has to agree with me or even be offended. But, Christians were asked to respond to this post. In the end, it is I that will have to stand before God and give an account of every idle word that I have said. Just another note, there are both believers and non-believers that choose not to use bad language.
    Mine is because of God's word. Please understand that nothing that I have said was meant as offensive. For me, it is wrong.

    No worries.. nothing was taken offensively... good ol' wholesome discussion is all :D

    You asked, "if there was nothing wrong with these "if there was nothing wrong with these " words, why would we tell our children not to say them?" And I have to ask the same thing? Why is that? Is it really because there is something wrong with this words? Or is it because at some point some highbrows elites thought them inappropriate while sipping tea... along with dipping your scone in jam or eating with your gloves on.

    All of these things we are warned not to do in the verses you gave can be accomplished with the very vocabulary that you, yourself, uses. Filthiness, vileness, corruption, ignorance, jest, foolishness and whatever else is spread every day using words that are " words, why would we tell our children not to say them?".

    I liked this:

    Quote:

    When we become Christians, the Holy Spirit makes sure we are aware when we say something offensive, whether it is a sarcastic remark, a "socially acceptable" word, being rude, or insensitive. This includes filthy talking.
    With or without the Holy Spirit, we do all have a conscience, which should tell us the same thing. We know when we are saying something meant to be offensive, sarcastic, rude, insensitive, or filthy. Whether we use "curse" words to say such things, doesn't really matter, although, the use of "those" words can make such things more impactful/influential/effective.

    So if God knows your heart, He must know when the use of those words are not meant to be offensive, sarcastic, rude, insensitive, or filthy... but rather used to make something more impactful/influential/effective.

    I think there are proper and improper ways to use a lot of words. And a lot of those words are socially acceptable language still. But there are those other ones that simply aren't acceptable regardless.

    For example, I don't let my daughter use cuss words.. but I also don't let her use the word "those". Not that these words are forbidden but they, like other words, carry a lot of power. Once she understands the meaning and power of such words, along with the consequences of their misuse, she is well within her right to use them. Of course, if she misuses them, she'll have to "hate" the consequences :D
  • Jul 22, 2009, 05:30 PM
    mugger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I have a pretty thick skin as you probably know. Words don't offend me. HOWEVER I am teaching my kids what I have been taught: overuse of standard swearing words reveals a lack of vocabulary and a generalized problem with socializing with others.

    Nice answer!
  • Jul 22, 2009, 05:44 PM
    simoneaugie

    The funny thing is that, if your conception of God is truly everywhere and everything, He/She is not only the inventor of the F word, He/She is the word itself. Therefore, anything you do is a creation of the ultimate creator, even saying bad words.

    We are given free will but that doesn't mean that our will is not also that of our creator. How could we have free will if our every word and action was not supported by "God?" It's about making choices. The choices that show respect and caring for those around us are the choices that move us closer to what we really are.

    Choosing to show respect and caring to those around me sometimes involves participating in slang usage. Sometimes, or perhaps all the time it involves complete and total acceptance of a person, exactly as she is; not as how a certain "truth" says she "should" be.

    "People will say the wrong thing. You just have to remember that they meant to say the right thing. It allows you to be so much more gracious."
  • Jul 23, 2009, 04:44 AM
    N0help4u

    Okay ready for this?

    I rarely listen to Joel Osteen but one day I happened to stop changing the channel and listen to his sermon. He was talking about the root meaning of 'taking offense'
    It was exactly how I see it. When you get offended you are the one taking that upon yourself. The other person walks off fine in their own eyes and you are the one that leaves carrying the burden of accepting the offense because YOU TOOK offense. You walk away with it being your problem because you are STILL offended by it.
    His sermon was way more indepth but basically that is it.

    I have been through too much in life and seen and heard it all and so nothing shocks or offends me. That doesn't mean that I don't have an opinion on their behavior. Like if they have to repeatedly use cuss words to express their anger or what they want to say it shows me something about them. Like they claim that people who use cuss words to describe everything maybe have a limited vocabulary (as Needkarna pointed out), or maybe they have a poor outlook on life, or they don't know how to cope, but it DOES show something about them generally.

    On the other hand I also agree that taking offense shows something about the ones that get offended,
    Like
    Sheltered life
    Or
    Self righteous
    Pious
    Snouty, uppity ups
  • Jul 23, 2009, 05:14 AM
    N0help4u
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by simoneaugie View Post
    It's about making choices. The choices that show respect and caring for those around us are the choices that move us closer to what we really are.

    Choosing to show respect and caring to those around me sometimes involves participating in slang usage. Sometimes, or perhaps all the time it involves complete and total acceptance of a person, exactly as she is; not as how a certain "truth" says she "should" be.

    "People will say the wrong thing. You just have to remember that they meant to say the right thing. It allows you to be so much more gracious."

    Greenie
    But with the last sentence I don't think it is so much that they meant to say the right thing as it is that we just reword it in our head with our own words and just accept how they said what they said knowing we understand what they meant.
  • Jul 24, 2009, 03:26 PM
    paraclete
    There is no need to use these words in general speech, but they have entered the language because its cool to be a shock jock or shock jill. Actually its not cool just immature as anyone who has watched that idiot chef Ramsey on TV would know, it just makes you look like a raving maniac. I found that when I truly became a christian I was delivered of using such language, now I think it's apparent that the Holy Spirit set the standard and we Christians should follow the example of Jesus who used wit instead cussing to get the point across
  • Jul 24, 2009, 03:31 PM
    Chey5782
    Excon, I am coming to realize you like to stir that pot so the sh*t don't stick to the bottom! Hahahaha

    But in all seriousness, as a pagan there are certain traditions of my faith that hold very STRONGLY that words do have power. Even a mildly spoken curse can be considered just that. I was taught to always be mindful of what you say.
  • Jul 24, 2009, 03:31 PM
    N0help4u

    Yep but
    That is the thing you were delivered from it but most people don't even realize they need 'delivered'.
  • Jul 24, 2009, 03:44 PM
    N0help4u
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    Excon, I am coming to realize you like to stir that pot so the sh*t don't stick to the bottom! hahahaha

    But in all seriousness, as a pagan there are certain traditions of my faith that hold very STRONGLY that words do have power. Even a mildly spoken curse can be considered just that. I was taught to always be mindful of what you say.

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  • Jul 24, 2009, 03:48 PM
    Synnen
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    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    Yep but
    That is the thing you were delivered from it but most people don't even realize they need 'delivered'.

    Or most people DON'T need "delivered".

    What is offensive to one person (or one person's god) is not necessarily offensive to another person (or THEIR god).
  • Jul 24, 2009, 04:13 PM
    N0help4u

    Yep only Christians NEED 'delivered' if you really think about it.
  • Jul 24, 2009, 04:15 PM
    Chey5782
    That's not true! I want my creamsicles delivered from the Schwans guy!!
  • Jul 24, 2009, 04:17 PM
    simoneaugie
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    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    There is no need to use these words in general speech, but they have entered the language because its cool to be a shock jock or shock jill. Actually its not cool just immature as anyone who has watched that idiot chef Ramsey on TV would know, it just makes you look like a raving maniac. I found that when I truly became a christian I was delivered of using such language, now I think it's apparent that the Holy Spirit set the standard and we Christians should follow the example of Jesus who used wit instead cussing to get the point across

    While I respect you opinion, do not assume that I use dirty words to shock or because I am immature. Nor am I a raving maniac, which is what your words imply. When Jock and Jill use the words first in a conversation and are comfortable with them then I will use those words too out of respect for their acceptance and understanding of them.

    Someone who is delivered from using such language may need to use wit. Wit is kindness when used correctly. Judgement is not wit, it is cruel and ostracizing. I guess you didn't understand a word of what I wrote. You just simply slammed and put down everyone who uses slang. WWJD?
  • Jul 24, 2009, 04:19 PM
    N0help4u

    My apologies Chey

    Sorry this is the best I could do

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  • Jul 24, 2009, 04:21 PM
    Chey5782
    For shizzle! I LIKE chef Ramsey. I also like people who don't come across as total idiots, so what does that say about personal preferences. DONG! Hit it on the head! This is actually about preferences, Christianity is just a REASON to act in regard to this in a positive or negative manner. What about being deaf? Does cussing at a deaf person who has no clue what you are saying make it more or less relevant?
  • Jul 24, 2009, 04:28 PM
    excon

    Hello again:

    I swear a lot. But, it's been 15 years since I swore at somebody.

    But, back to the WORDS. It's true. I COULD use others, but sometimes THOSE words are the perfect ones to use. You can call it passing gas, or breaking wind... But sometimes you just have to call it a fart. Now, I don't know whether that's a swear word to you, or whether it's offensive or not. I don't know about you, but fart jokes are still funny. Besides, you still haven't told me whether freakin or fricken are just fine, but another spelling isn't.

    That's all I want to know.

    excon
  • Jul 24, 2009, 04:35 PM
    N0help4u

    I thought frickin was the word the ones that get offended use to be polite...
    You know like oops that frickin poot I just let out is soooo embarrassing
    Hmmmm I wonder WHO all really talk like that??
    I know in Texas they call bars Ice houses and this big biker dude told me that was drinking in the ice house another big biker dude said ''oops I pooted''.
    I ROTFLMAO picturing a big biker dude saying that.

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