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  • May 12, 2011, 09:20 AM
    sawsall02
    Comment on Synnen's post
    Your name serves you well! Synnen! Didn't you read the scripture I posted? Yes, you know there is a God. You choose not to believe, that's all! And you will not be held without excuse!
  • May 12, 2011, 09:22 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sawsall02 View Post
    If our brain activity is based on RANDOM chemical reactions, assuming we EVOLVED from nothingness! based on this THEORY we could not have ANY LOGIC, or REASONING! Only if we were intelligently designed could we have these things. My gosh, you couldn't even talk,walk,see,hear,taste,smell,or even LIVE for that matter! If we didn't have a creator that made these thing's!

    So not a single thought or word that you sepak emanates from you, it all comes from your god? So by extension your utter the word of god? I don't think so.

    It may come a surprise to you but many have a sense of responsibility for their actiosn in that they own the actions they do. You take absolutely no responsibility for your actions and I find that very dangerous to society as a whole. Who knows what your god will make you do.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:25 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sawsall02 View Post
    Your name serves you well! Synnen! Didn't you read the scripture I posted? Yes, you know their is a God. You choose not to believe, that's all! And you will not be held without excuse!

    You fall into the camp of fanatism. But you're blind to it due to the fanaticism. I apologize if the truth hurts.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:25 AM
    sawsall02
    Comment on ScottGem's post
    Scott, how do I say this gently, read the Bible! Yes, you can have assurance in Heaven, anyone can. You have to Repent of your sins, and give your life to Jesus.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:31 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Who knows what your god will make you do.

    I don't think that's where he's going with his (God-given) logic. He is trying to tell you that you have been "fearfully and wonderfully made" by God (who has the First and Ultimate Logic) so that you too have logic.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:32 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You fall into the camp of fanatism. But you're blind to it due to the fanatism. I apologize if the truth hurts.

    No, he's just a fundamentalist, not a fanatic.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:35 AM
    sawsall02
    God loves us all, every one of us. But he hates the sin. REPENT, give your life to him, before it's too late.

    Eternity is a long time! PLEASE GIVE YOUR LIFE TO JESUS!!

    Find a Bible believing church, and just visit sometime.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:39 AM
    sawsall02
    Comment on Synnen's post
    This goes against the "LAWS OF PHYSICS"! Tell me how you get something from nothingness!
  • May 12, 2011, 09:42 AM
    sawsall02
    Comment on Wondergirl's post
    Close. God made Logic, so how could we have any?
  • May 12, 2011, 09:42 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    No, he's just a fundamentalist, not a fanatic.

    The fundamantalist part if part of his denomination, the fanaticism part is part of his whole outlook on life which clouds his judgement.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:43 AM
    Synnen

    Sawsall--your scripture was written by men.

    Here--here's a scripture for you. "All gods are one god, and all goddesses are one goddess. We just call them by different names in our own need". Written by Synnen.

    NOW---do YOU believe MY scripture any more than I believe YOUR scripture?
  • May 12, 2011, 09:43 AM
    sawsall02
    Got to go, talk to you tomorrow. Good thread.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:43 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sawsall02 View Post
    God loves us all, each and every one of us. But he hates the sin. REPENT, give your life to him, before it's too late.

    Eternity is a long time! PLEASE GIVE YOUR LIFE TO JESUS!!!

    Find a Bible believing church, and just visit sometime.

    Dude you're a little scary in your preaching, it brings absolutely nothing to the discussion. You're just repeating the same thing over and over.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:44 AM
    southamerica

    You do know about evolution, right?

    What happened at the very beginning of time? Not sure-also not sure if there was a "beginning". I also find it easy to believe in a Creator as well as accept evolution as a reality.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:44 AM
    Wondergirl

    Sawsall, you are going about this in the wrong way. This is not how to convince people about God's existence and that they need God in their lives. In fact, you are quickly turning off everyone who reads your posts.

    There are better ways to do this.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:45 AM
    Synnen

    Sawsall--I didn't get something from nothingness.

    There was ALWAYS something, and NEVER nothing.

    Therefore something came from something, not something from nothing.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:47 AM
    southamerica
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Synnen View Post
    There was ALWAYS something, and NEVER nothing.

    That's what I'm inclined to believe, as well.
  • May 12, 2011, 09:50 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The fundamantalist part if part of his denomination, the fanatism part is part of his whole outlook on life which clouds his judgement.

    The two are mutually inclusive?
  • May 12, 2011, 09:52 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    The two are mutually inclusive?

    It sounds like we need a Venn diagram. :) I think the fundamentalism circle lives inside the fanaticism circle.
  • May 12, 2011, 10:05 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    It sounds like we need a Venn diagram. :) I think the fundamentalism circle lives inside the fanatism circle.

    I thought it was the other way around. Which came first, the fundamentalism or the fanaticism? Hmmmm. And we may be hijacking this thread.

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