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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

It's a gift. That's all.

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$500 from a stranger? Let me ask you, what would you do?

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Originally Posted by De Maria

$500 from a stranger? Let me ask you, what would you do?

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I'd say thank you and pay it forward.

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I'd say thank you and pay it forward.

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Lol! I don't even give my wife $500.

Ok, so what's the point?

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Lol! I don't even give my wife $500.

Ok, so what's the point?

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Grace (salvation) is a free gift, and we thank God for it by paying it forward.

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Grace (salvation) is a free gift, and we thank God for it by paying it forward.

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All is grace. Faith is grace. But salvation is only given to those who obey Christ. That is in Scripture:


Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

And only those who do the work of the law are just before God:
Romans 2:13
(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

And did you ever answer, what do you consider the difference between eternal life and salvation?

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And did you ever answer, what do you consider the difference between eternal life and salvation?

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I had Labor Day company and just now sent him home.

salvation - the sentence
eternal life = the exclamation point at the end of the sentence

salvation = what Jesus accomplished on the cross
eternal life = what Jesus accomplished with His Resurrection

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I had Labor Day company and just now sent him home.

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Is today labor day? I get all turned around since I work an 8 and 7 schedule. 8 days at work and 7 days off. I love it.

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salvation - the sentence
eternal life = the exclamation point at the end of the sentence

salvation = what Jesus accomplished on the cross
eternal life = what Jesus accomplished with His Resurrection

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That I will sleep on. Very interesting.

Wait, before I logoff. So you're explanation for Romans 2: 6-10 is that we must work to get eternal life? Or no?

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Wait, before I logoff. So you're explanation for Romans 2: 6-10 is that we must work to get eternal life? Or no?

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No. It's a gift that we can refuse.

Schlaf gut.

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No. It's a gift that we can refuse.

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Eternal life? Read Romans 2 again:
Romans 2:6-10 (King James Version)

6Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

10But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

Schlaf gut.[/QUOTE]

I'm not going to sleep yet. I've got some personal research to do.

But thanks. Good night.

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Eternal life? Read Romans 2 again:

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We will be judged by our works, but we cannot be saved by our works. In other words, we cannot be saved by works, but we have been saved to do good works. God will judge men according to their works. Romans 14:12--"Every one of us shall give account of himself to God."

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We will be judged by our works, but we cannot be saved by our works.

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According to that verse, will those who do not perform good works receive eternal life?

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In other words, we cannot be saved by works, but we have been saved to do good works. God will judge men according to their works. Romans 14:12--"Every one of us shall give account of himself to God."

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That is correct. Even to the accounting of every thoughtless word that comes out of our mouth.

I wonder if the same pertains to keyboards? ;)