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Clichés make poor arguments. Just an FYI.
Lol.. the cliché actually fit perfectly with my argument. I could not have found a better way to articulate it. Jesus is the reason for the season amen! So those who don't like it to bad so sad.
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Since when does not celebrating the holidays of a religion one has no belief in make them hateful towards that religion? Christians don't celebrate Yom Kippur- can I then logically assume that they have a hatred of all things Jewish?
Apparently, by your logic, I can. So shame on you, you anti-semite!
Mmm.. I don't think you understand what I meant. I was actually directing that you, not so much people in general because it quite obvious that you have some hatred and bitterness towards the Christmas holiday and it is most probably because you hate christians just like rest of the world does. But I am not mad at you, for that, noo.. Jesus said just as he was hated so will we, His followers, be hated so I am not the least bit surprised. When other religions celebrate their holidays Ramadan, yom kippur etc and they do their rituals no one cares but when Christians want to celebrate their holiday people make such a big deal about it. Why don't you call Yom kippur and Ramadan "happy Holiday"? If a store does not want to remain nuetral then they should not say happy holiday either. I think that is fair enough. And by the way, I am not an anti-semite my best friend is Jewish and as Christians we are called to love and pray for the Jews. Our savior is a Jew! So if you want to continue to have an intelligent adult discussion about this issue, I think you need to stop your unwarranted name calling and revise the terms of use of this website.
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So, those are the perks of your holiday? Wow, I thought it was a celebration of the birth of your Savior- but now that I see the things a Christian points out as highlights of the holiday- decorations, presents, and a day off from work- heck, maybe I oughta convert. If that's what it's really all about, I mean... who wouldn't want that!
Yes! Those are the perks of our holiday! Duh yes that is how we celebrate the birth of our savior. Gift giving, feeding the poor, christmas trees, christmas lights, day off from work (love that) getting together with family, singing christmas carrols e.t.c. It's the most wonderful time of the year! The highlight and the reason for this celebration is the precious Son of God and we sing praises to Him and celebrate his birth. Maybe you should convert, you will love it, you won't be disappointed.
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Hmm... the stealing of one religion's celebratory traditions and adapting them to different systems of beliefs... interesting that something along those lines would offend you. Google 'pagan roots of Christmas traditions' and see what you come up with. Would you pay any mind to a Pagan complaining about you diluting their holiday and usurping their traditions?
At least the pagons had a reason for the holiday. Not just "happy holiday" for no reason.
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For your holiday, yes, that's what it is about. Well sort of. It's actually more of a celebration of the incarnation, God become human- not really the 'happy birthday, jesus' celebration so many Christians choose to celebrate. But in any case, it is critical that you recognize that while that is what YOUR holiday may be about, it is not the only holiday celebrated this time of year, and it is NOT the reason for all other holidays this time of year. Making that assumption is not really the best way to present yourself as an intelligent person.
If you didn't know this, I hate to be the one to break this to you but Thanksgiving was actually established to give thanks to GOD. So every time you eat that turkey remember that. (It may not taste very good anymore) And if you are talking about New years Holiday then people should just say Happy New Year, why complicate things and cause controversy for nothing.
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Not bothered by Christmas itself, but rather by the insistence that everyone wish everyone, regardless of actual religious belief, a 'Merry Christmas'- doesn't that seem quite foolish, and actually cause the meaning of your holiday to be further diminished? Saying specific words to one another does not cause people to come to a deeper recognition of the meaning of your holiday- would you be happy if the phrase 'Merry Christmas' gradually became as generic a wish as 'Happy Holidays'? Wishing a 'happy holiday' includes those whose religious beliefs you may not know (i.e. a store associate speaking to a customer). Wish your Christian friends, Christian family members, and fellow church-goers a Merry Christmas. But why force words upon others to whom they have no significance? Is it really the intent of Christians to drain all meaning from their holiday all together?
The store clerks can just say Happy new year if they want to stay neutral. Because what ever you want to call it "Happy holidays" or "Happy Cup Cake" we all know what the underlying holiday is about. Its about the birth of Christ. So its just like saying I am not going to say to people Happy 4th July I am just going to say "happy holiday". You can call it "happy holiday" if you want but is does not change the fact that it is independence day. So the bottom line is no one is forced to participate in the Christmas cheer if you don't want to. If someone says merry christmas to you, just don't respond.
