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Originally Posted by Allheart
DeMaria,
This is exactly what I was trying to communicate to you. How does the above demonstrate a loving follower of Christ.
Easily. I emulate Jesus Christ as closely as possible. You seem to be under the false impression that Jesus Christ never issued a harsh word. You are wrong. Jesus Christ frequently spoke harshly to many:
Read this:
Douay-Rheims Bible, Gospel According to Saint Matthew Chapter 23
Where did you get the impression that Jesus would remain silent in the presence of sin? Do you believe that Jesus' did not admonish the sinners when He dined with them?
Have you not heard:
2 Timothy 1 7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear: but of power, and of love, and of sobriety. 8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but labour with the gospel, according to the power of God, 9 Who hath delivered us and called us by his holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the times of the world. 10 But is now made manifest by the illumination of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath destroyed death, and hath brought to light life and incorruption by the gospel:
This is how the Apostles lived, this is how the Saints lived. They didn't worry about hurting a few people's feelings if it might save their souls.
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Any good that may be in your messages, is lost with this type of thinking.
That's not for you to judge. I just plant seeds. It is God who waters. Besides, I've had many who thank me for the message I bring.
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I did try to respond to your last PM, but when I hit send, it blinked away. I took it as the will of God. I truly did.
That's fine, but then why did you write this?
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There should be no harshness amongst those who believe or even amongst those who don't believe.
Where did you learn that?
1 Corinthians 4 14 I write not these things to confound you; but I admonish you as my dearest children.
Now, I've tried to admonish you that you seem to be approving of the sin of homosexuality. But instead you've taken that as an insult. That is your problem.
Again, as Scripture says:
Ez 33:7 So thou, O son of man, I have made thee a watchman to the house of Israel: therefore thou shalt hear the word from my mouth, and shalt tell it them from me. 8 When I say to the wicked: O wicked man, thou shalt surely die: if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked man from his way: that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but I will require his blood at thy hand. 9 But if thou tell the wicked man, that he may be converted from his ways, and he be not converted from his way: he shall die in his iniquity: but thou hast delivered thy soul. 10 Thou therefore, O son of man, say to the house of Israel: Thus you have spoken, saying: Our iniquities, and our sins are upon us, and we pine away in them: how then can we live?
Oh I know what you'll say. "Now he's calling me wicked!" That's fine, if you want to take the admonition in that manner, I've done my duty by you. To repeat, in case you've forgotten the message, I've informed you that it is not love to permit people to believe that they may remain in their sin and God will love them still.
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You may think I trade the praise of man for being in favor in God's eyes, but as I told you in my PM back to you, that could not be further from the truth. In life, my thoughts, heart, and viewpoints, usually make me stand alone and it's where I choose to stay, for I would not change what I believe in my heart for anyone's approval, except Gods.
If that be so then believe when I tell you that God wants you to help your brethren shed their sin:
James 5 19 My brethren, if any of you err from the truth, and one convert him: I mean this with all sincerity, I wish you great joy and pray that love touches your heart and surrounds you. 20 He must know that he who causeth a sinner to be converted from the error of his way, shall save his soul from death, and shall cover a multitude of sins.
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May you see the good in people as well as areas that may need improvement and share God's word and love, in a way that will bring others to Him.
Thank you. I pray the same for you.
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And may you no longer judge me wrongly and may I not do the same of you.
I don't judge you. I judge your words. As I said in my pm, your message seemed to approve of the sin of homosexuality.
You said, and I quote:
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For those of you, who have never been hurt by other's comments - Judge the gay community.
For those of you, who have never felt different, been teased or ridiculed for being different - Point your finger at the gay community and tell them how horrible they are.
For those of you who have never felt overweight, underweight, too tall, too small - Stand up and let your negative voice and opinions be heard in reference to the Gay community.
For those of you, who never felt heartache from not being able to be with the one you love, whose hearts have never been broken - Lash out at the gay community for wanting to love.
But for all of those who know what it feels like to be different, to have your feelings hurt, to feel unloved and wanted by so many - remember that pain - and embrace all that share that pain - black, white, gay, bi, straight, tall, short - your brothers and sisters.
Don't try and stand in God's shoes - they will never fit any of us.
Apparently, you say that because you think I'm too harsh in saying that homosexuality is a mortal sin that will lead people to hell if they persist in it.
I don't believe its harsh at all. I believe it is the truth.
Sincerely,
De Maria