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  • Nov 26, 2008, 07:31 PM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DrJizzle View Post
    No one can claim that the Golden Rule is a Christian thing... all they can say is that is it a Christian thing, too.

    Sure we can. It is in the Bible.

    Quote:

    Every religion, philosophy, way of life touches on the same concept.
    Did you ever stop and think that the God who created all that there is was the source?
  • Nov 26, 2008, 07:32 PM
    classyT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DrJizzle View Post
    I'm not here searching for Religion... or Faith.

    And trust me, when I am searching, I am not looking to men.



    But I LOVE this:



    :O NO WAY!! Hahah

    Hey, just trying to be nice and state the truth. I'm not sure why that is so funny to you.. but hey.. enjoy!
  • Nov 26, 2008, 07:51 PM
    michealb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    Exactly, and thus in practice the reality is the opposite of your theory.

    Seriously Tj3 even I don't think you are that stupid.
  • Nov 26, 2008, 08:18 PM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michealb View Post
    Seriously Tj3 even I don't think you are that stupid.

    Heh heh heh, you don't take disagreement well, do you?
  • Nov 26, 2008, 08:25 PM
    michealb

    It is one thing if you disagree with me it is another when you try to take things out of context and twist them to prove your right.
  • Nov 26, 2008, 08:29 PM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michealb View Post
    It is one thing if you disagree with me it is another when you try to take things out of context and twist them to prove your right.

    You gave us all a good example of how the atheists use the golden rule when faced with disagreement, Michael. :D
  • Nov 27, 2008, 02:59 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    Did you ever stop and think that the God who created all that there is was the source?

    Ah yes, back to the "god created everything" response. Circular reasoning at its best. LOL!
  • Nov 27, 2008, 08:06 AM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Ah yes, back to the "god created everything" response. Circular reasoning at its best. LOL!

    Really? I already posted a great deal of evidence for that very fact. You wouldn't just be rejecting all the evidence because you don't want to believe that it is true, would you?

    Perhaps you would post your evidence against God having created everything.
  • Nov 27, 2008, 08:20 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    What is the Golden rule?

    Hello spit:

    "Him that has the gold, makes the rules".

    Since I have some gold, I'm making the rules. Here they are; I've been reading... Holy smokes! You guys HATE each other. That' ain't cool. So, put that hate on me. I'll take your sins upon myself. You are now free to love again. Go forth and multiply.

    What? A Jewish carpenter can't offer an opinion?

    excon
  • Nov 27, 2008, 08:21 AM
    NeedKarma
    TJ,
    Dude, I'm only talking about the golden rule i.e. the topic of this thread. You seemed to have rejected the evidence I have posted in this thread. I have no idea what evidence you are referring to.
  • Nov 27, 2008, 12:14 PM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    TJ,
    Dude, I'm only talking about the golden rule i.e. the topic of this thread. You seemed to have rejected the evidence I have posted in this thread. I have no idea what evidence you are referring to.

    NK,

    You sdaid that saying that God created everything is circular reasoning thus denying that it happened. Now you are backtracking on that when asked for validation of your claim, it seems.

    I have seem no evidence to accept or reject. Where is this evidence? I would be more than happy to look at it if I inadvertently missed it - just post the link or repost the evidence again.
  • Nov 27, 2008, 12:25 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    I have seem no evidence to accept or reject. Where is this evidence? I would be more than happy to look at it if I inadvertently missed it - just post the link or repost the evidence again.

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  • Nov 27, 2008, 12:45 PM
    firmbeliever

    Wow NK,how do you do that?
    I did not know we could actually view individual posts like that.Is that part of the new features?
    I must have been away longer than I realised.:)

    Sorry off topic.
  • Nov 27, 2008, 12:48 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by firmbeliever View Post
    wow NK,how do you do that?
    I did not know we could actually view individual posts like that.Is that part of the new features?
    I must have been away longer than I realised.:)

    Sorry off topic.

    On the right-hand side on every post, where you would click to "Report innapropriate post", there is the post number, that's clickable and will show the single post at the top of the page, you can then copy the link and use it. :) I'm in IT and web development so I love this stuff.
  • Nov 27, 2008, 12:50 PM
    firmbeliever

    Thanks Nk, I am going to test this stuff :D.
  • Nov 27, 2008, 06:54 PM
    Tj3
    Quote:
    I saw that. So what do you think that this is evidence of and what are you trying to prove?

    Once again, don't make vague comments - say what you mean.
  • Nov 27, 2008, 07:57 PM
    inthebox
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Credendovidis View Post
    The golden rules was wellknown long before the first letter was ever started on the first Bible chapter.
    The reality is that the golden rules comes not from the bible. The bible just accepted it as a valid and sound way of life guideline.
    The golden rule is NOT some form of property of Christianity.
    Atheists have - just as all other people - used the golden rule to live a proper , prosperous, and safe life.
    Atheists did not abuse the golden rule for their own views. Many christians however abused - and still abuse - the golden rule to support their own religious delusions.

    Believe whatever you prefer, but at least accept that others may have different views !
    Why can't so many "christians" show more respect for other world views, and drop all their apparent feelings of hatred and revenge?


    .

    You contradict yourself by implying that Christians have religious delusions, then go on about showing more respect for other world views.



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    The word of God, the bible expects more than just the golden rule!


    Quote:

    Matthew 5:

    38"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'[g] 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles.

    43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[h] and hate your enemy.' 44But I tell you: Love your enemies[i]


    Quote:



    Romans 12:

    14Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.

    17Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. 18If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"[d]says the Lord. 20On the contrary:
    "If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
    if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
    In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."[e] 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

  • Nov 28, 2008, 04:22 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    I saw that. So what do you think that this is evidence of and what are you trying to prove?

    Once again, don't make vague comments - say what you mean.

    Sorry mate, I don't know how to dumb it down, I find it quite self-explanatory. I guess we'll just leave it at that.

    Have a great day!

    NK.
  • Nov 28, 2008, 11:13 AM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    Agreed. I would love to see him follow the golden rule, aned to prove us wrong!

    I'm going to pipe in and I hope that Cred is okay with me sharing this story.

    When I first came to this site I butted heads with Cred like you wouldn't believe. If we were on the same thread together it would eventually be closed because we would fight like cats and dogs.

    One day, after months of fighting with each other, I sent Cred a PM and asked if we could let by gones be by gones and start fresh. He didn't hesitate to accept what I offered and since then we have been very civil to each other, in fact, I consider him a friend.

    If he's really as hateful as you all think, how do we both manage to get along? I believe in God, he doesn't, yet we are both kind to each other. Why? Because we're both good people.

    Doesn't the bible say, judge no lest you be judged?
  • Nov 28, 2008, 12:36 PM
    classyT

    Alty,

    I am not judging Cred. He brought up the Golden Rule thingy. I as giving him the opportunity to use it. He has been rude to me from day one.. I thought it was because I was a Christian.. but apparently it is because he THINKs I am someone named SassyT. I have assured him several times that I am not and I think since he brought up the whole Golden Rule stuff... he should man up and apologize to me. But if he doesn't... I will survive. I just think if he DOESN'T... His thread will make no sense and simply prove that he in fact does NOT follow the "golden rule". Regardless of whether it came about before Jesus or after.

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