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  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:13 AM
    excon

    Hello again, Tj:

    I'm trying. I really am.. But, if God only designs people to be straight, then if they're OTHER than straight, it's by choice.

    Therefore, if people CHOOSE to sin, then what? They're no different than ANY Christian who sins, no?

    Is a homosexual sin different than any other?

    excon
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:14 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobbalina View Post
    now thats how we got AIDS...

    Hello again, b:

    No, that how your FATHER told you we got aids. But, he's WRONG on that too.

    excon
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:18 AM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    I'm trying. I really am.. But, if God only designs people to be straight, then if they're OTHER than straight, it's by choice.

    Therefore, if people CHOOSE to sin, then what? They're no different than ANY Christian who sins, no?

    Is a homosexual sin different than any other?

    GOOD QUESTION!!

    The answer is NO - they are no different from anyone else, nor is that choice a different sin from any other. That is a point often find myself at odds with some Christians who either see homosexuality as an especially bad sin and thus differentiate it, or they see it as a "special" sin where the orientation is okay (unlike other sins). But scripture gives no special status to this or any sin other than blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

    The only difference comes when we receive Christ as Saviour - that is when our sins are forgiven. But none of us comes to Christ with any merit of our own - we are all equally sinners who need to be saved by God's grace.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:37 AM
    cozyk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    It is good to admit that.



    No, they all accepted the way that God created them.

    Lucky for them, that they were created without any glitches that can sometimes happen when the human embryo is forming. Because if something did actually go awry , you would not stand for it.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:39 AM
    cozyk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, cozyk:

    It IS unforgivable, especially from people who think they're so forgiving...

    Bwa, ha ha ha.

    excon

    I know, isn't that ironic?
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:42 AM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cozyk View Post
    Lucky for them, that they were created without any glitches that can sometimes happen when the human embryo is forming. Because if something did actually go awry , you would not stand for it.

    Fortunately, I am more able to stand for "glitches" than some folk who appear unwilling to accept disagreement without posting mis-representations.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:47 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    Fortunately, I am more able to stand for "glitches" than some folk who appear unwilling to accept disagreement without posting mis-representations.

    My wife and I are laughing over this.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:48 AM
    bobbalina

    Well I don't think anybody really knows where aids came from but I think that some guy thought 'hey I think ill try this' so he got it from a monkey and spread it not knowing well that's just what I think
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:48 AM
    classyT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cozyk View Post
    I know, isn't that ironic?

    EX and cozyk,
    Come on.. that isn't fair. I am a Christian and I stand in judgement of no one. I forgive, I'm polite, and I give a biblical view point. Homosexuality according to the bible is wrong. It is a sin... a forgivable sin but nonetheless a sin. Why do you want to lump all Christians into a box? I thought you all were the ones with such open minds? Tsk tsk
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:49 AM
    cozyk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    Fortunately, I am more able to stand for "glitches" than some folk who appear unwilling to accept disagreement without posting mis-representations.

    Not getting it:confused:
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:50 AM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cozyk View Post
    Not getting it:confused:

    I am not surprised.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:53 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    I am not surprised.

    Hello again, Tj:

    Where in the proselytizing literature, does it say that you can win non believers over with arrogance?

    excon
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:54 AM
    cozyk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by classyT View Post
    EX and cozyk,
    Come on..that isn't fair. I am a Christian and I stand in judgement of no one. I forgive, I'm polite, and I give a biblical view point. Homosexuality according to the bible is wrong. it is a sin ...a forgivable sin but nonetheless a sin. Why do you want to lump all Christians into a box? I thought you all were the ones with such open minds? tsk tsk

    Why can't some christians accept that people may be gay because of a glitch in utero and stop saying it is by choice and it is a sin. OTHER, than what it says in the bible because that proves nothing.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:56 AM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Tj:
    Where in the proselytizing literature, does it say that you can win non believers over with arrogance?

    Maybe you missed the topic of this thread, excon, but it is not "Let's Attack Christianity". Check to see elsewhere. I am sure that there are flaming boards where that would be more appropriate and welcome.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:57 AM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cozyk View Post
    Why can't some christians accept that people may be gay because of a glitch in utero and stop saying it is by choice and it is a sin.

    Because we deal with reality rather than with what some folk would prefer to think happened.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:57 AM
    cozyk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    I am not surprised.

    What was I mis-representing? I got to go to the dentist now, but I'll check back with you later. Bye:)
  • Feb 16, 2009, 08:57 AM
    Tj3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cozyk View Post
    What was I mis-representing? I gotta go to the dentist now, but I'll check back with you later. Bye:)

    What I believe and said.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 09:11 AM
    classyT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cozyk View Post
    Why can't some christians accept that people may be gay because of a glitch in utero and stop saying it is by choice and it is a sin. OTHER, than what it says in the bible because that proves nothing.

    cozyk,

    Want a honest answer? Because I believe the word of God over what man says and thinks. Doesn't make me better.. or unforgiving
  • Feb 16, 2009, 09:15 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    Maybe you missed the topic of this thread, excon, but it is not "Let's Attack Christianity". Check to see elsewhere. I am sure that there are flaming boards where that would be more appropriate and welcome.

    Hello again, Tj:

    Here's the thing. You don't seem to read very well. I was quite clear. I attacked YOU. NOT Christianity... But, it's cool. I'm still on to you.

    excon
  • Feb 16, 2009, 09:51 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tj3 View Post
    GOOD QUESTION!!!!

    The answer is NO - they are no different from anyone else, nor is that choice a different sin from any other. That is a point often find myself at odds with some Christians who either see homosexuality as an especially bad sin

    He didn't ask about homosexuality. He asked about the behavior.

    Heterosexuality is not a sin, but adultery is.

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