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  • Jul 7, 2011, 05:38 PM
    Jooley
    She wants time to find herself?
    Well we've been going out 4 years, and we're 18, so yano most of our teenage years have been spent together, and well we're basically made for each other... Or so I thought.. We both moved out from home last year and have been living in a rented house for college, was all going good, but toward the end of the college year she I think got tired sharing a room with me, yano looking back we we're probably too young to be kept in same space.

    At the end of the year she got asked to go on a trip with her course for extra credits, all grand. So she was away for a month, and I didn't really see her for two months. I noticed when she came back things where more awkward and stuff, and I know she didn't cheat on me, so no point basing anything on this because it didn't happen! So she was away and she was out meeting new people and all this, and the type of person I am, I'm not a confident guy, find it hard to meet new people and get out chatting, but same time when I'm comfortable with someone I'm grand, so I don't enjoy going out, and I can't drink either, (I'm Irish by the way so when you go out for a night out in Ireland you get drunk) and well that really isn't my scene

    So a month after she came back she broke up with me, said she needed to find herself, **** like that. She crushed me, I loved her to bits, I moved to that college 300km away from home to be with her, its two weeks now and I'm just more or less finished with the suicide thoughts (I'm not going to now) because at the time there was no light for me I guess. I've realized, killing myself isn't going to get her back, all that's keeping me alive is the thought of getting her back yano.

    I was a good boyfriend by the way, yano everyone in her family loved me, everyone wasn't expecting it too. I wish I had the confidence to walk away and say she'll be back in so long, but I really don't have that, she brought out the best in me and always made me happy.

    After breaking up I realized how I could have been a better boyfriend, by simply sitting down and thinking about things. So she went to Austria with friends, had a brilliant time meeting new people and living differently. As I said definitely no other boy was mingled with, most she became friends with had long term boyfriends, even all the girls she went with had boyfriends, one even going out longer than us.

    One of her friends boyfriends broke up with her friend when they were away because he didn't want to be with one person there whole life, maybe a factor. I'm sorry for this question not being structured, but I'm typing as I think! So yea, maybe she thought of me as a chain and ball after in that sense. She never talked to me about this any day, just slapped it upon me, which hurt me.

    I would have tried anything if I thought it would prevent us breaking up. Realistically she's the only thing I really loved in this world. So I her mum and me went for a chat last week, went for 5hours, her mum and dad divorced after 22years or something when they where going out since they where 15 or so, maybe she's afraid of that, but same time, I'm not like her dad, (he was quite violent I think and well I wouldn't hit a fly).

    What came out of that talk was her mum thinks she's in a growing up phase, she's growing into a woman, and that I think she may have been jealous of some of her friends because they where all going on holidays with there boyfriends. If I had the money I would take her around the world twice but yano I don't have a job I'm a student

    I was saving for a car, so her mum thinks I should take her on holidays, which I will, I don't care about buying a car if it would get her back, I'd sell a leg as well. Plus her mum said she'd gimme some money as well to help. So her mum wants us to be back together as well, everyone does, she wouldn't give me 1000euro if she didn't want me to try get things working So what should I do?

    All she does is sit in her room all day, she writes to me on Facebook, texts. She said she doesn't love me but don't know. There was a stage where she was just as in love with me now as I am for her now, I don't think it vanished in a month.

    So I guess I'm very lost in what to do right now, I just basically explained this in how I see it. I don't know if it matters but she's still asking me to do stuff like she asked me to see new harry potter film and stuff like that. If you want to know something just ask!

    BTW I don't know what I'm asking just an on look.
  • Jul 7, 2011, 07:37 PM
    talaniman

    I know just what you are asking. What to do about your first life changing event since you left home. What to do about your first love dumping you.

    Sit down, this will shock your socks off.

    You accept it, thank her for the good times, and leave her alone by telling her you need a lot of time to fill the hole in your soul, and then leave her completely alone. No movies, no holidays, no nothing. Disappear from her life, and build one on your own without her. And keep everyone out of your business, and don't go whining to friends or family.

    This may not bring her back, doubt it will. But you keep your dignity, and self respect, as you heal, and make a life for yourself.

    Yes your little girl has grown up, and the young love has been replaced by just friends, and so must you grow up, and deal with this as a man, not a hurt confused BOY!!

    Yeah it sucks, being dumped always does for all of us. But we keep going, and make things better for ourselves, because we stand on our own no matter what life throws at us.

    Now you can be a man, and handle your business in a mature way, or be a boy, who is not ready to be a man and stand tall for himself. You choose.
  • Jul 8, 2011, 07:37 AM
    Jooley
    Yea I see where your coming from and I guess in some points your right, but as I said I still love her, I'd die for her in a heartbeat I know I'm young but some things I'm certain of. I know that there's still something there between us, the girl sits in her house and does nothing all day.. I don't understand is this how she's finding herself? But as long as there is a hope/chance I can't walk away from it she's all I think about all day everyday, she broke up with me before for a day to teach me a lesson, maybe this is along the same lines, a different way of telling me she wants things to change up, which I can understand. Telling the truth, I thought I was going to marry her, if we where older I would had already asked, so from your point of view I'm being a boy, but if a man is someone who turns his back on the things he loves most I'll be happy to stay a boy for a long time. I think there's a huge possibility that I love this girl too much, but I think I'm going to follow my heart, at least if I try, in how many years/months time I see her walking down the street I won't be thinking what if I didn't walk away I'll know I tried
  • Jul 8, 2011, 10:47 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    QUOTE by Jooley;
    Yea I see where your coming from and I guess in some points your right, but as I said I still love her, I'd die for her in a heartbeat I know I'm young but some things I'm certain of.
    I have no doubt of your feelings, but they fail to take account of the fact that you got dumped with no communications from her, and as yet all you have is "trying to find herself" Pay attention here guy, this is no longer about your feelings, and YOU need to recognize that you are in shock, and are desperate.

    You are thinking with your feelings, and not with your head.

    Quote:

    I know that there's still something there between us, the girl sits in her house and does nothing all day..
    Again, you assume and presume, through your own feelings and not take hers into account, which is the big flaw in your thinking. Maybe she wants you take act as a MAN, and not a BOY! A boy runs around crying to all that listens, and can only act through his own feelings of loss, instead of as a man who exhibits cool, calm, rational actions with a lot of thought, and doesn't run crying to her MAMA for advice, guidance, and suggestions, or MONEY, in an effort to impress or influence her.

    Sorry to be harsh, but your actions are of an uncaring boy, as you minimize the importance of her feelings to get your own way. Don't believe me? Write down your feelings and actions and review them in 3 days. Are they of a MAN, or a boy who doesn't know how to handle himself, or the his situation he finds himself in. Try it, and you tell me!

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    I don't understand is this how she's finding herself?
    Because you have never calmly found out about what your grown up female has on her mind. You have been too distracted by your own feelings of loss, and desperation that all you can think of is what YOU have lost.
    You know little of YOUR female if you have not recognized her growth, or your lack of it.

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    but as long as there is a hope/chance I can't walk away from it
    You aren't just walking away, your letting the dust settle so YOU can gain control over yourself, mainly out of RESPECT for HER feelings, mostly to keep from making a pest of yourself and, showing her what a petulant immature, desperate child you are and, making her think she made a GREAT decision to get rid of the child, and get a REAL MAN.

    Ask yourself how attractive you must seem with your actions so far. Ask yourself if she is missing the child that you are behaving like. Examine yourself, take the time to do so.

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    Telling the truth, I thought I was going to marry her, if we where older I would had already asked, so from your point of view I'm being a boy, but if a man is someone who turns his back on the things he loves most I'll be happy to stay a boy for a long time.
    And how is that working out for you? And you are not turning your back on anything, just acknowledging her feelings without the boy attitude. You fight the wrong battle the wrong way, just my humble opinion. Regrouping is not quitting. Sorry you see it that way.

    Quote:

    I think there's a huge possibility that I love this girl too much, but I think I'm going to follow my heart, at least if I try, in how many years/months time I see her walking down the street I won't be thinking what if I didn't walk away I'll know I tried
    Use your head, not just your heart, and instead of crying and begging, get the facts so you will know how best to proceed.

    Give it thought, not impulsive actions and words which you will regret.

    That is why you came here isn't it?? For facts?? Fact is, few woman want a boy, when they need a MAN!
  • Jul 8, 2011, 11:31 AM
    Jooley
    Yea I do agree with you, regrouping and all, but I haven't been speaking to her really, I haven't made anymoves or told her how I am feeling either, haven't gone for anything rash.. So I guess me talking this out is more me regrouping at this stage, because I'm lost, her mum was the one asked me to go for a drive I went and chatted things out, got another opinion, her mum was more worried about me than anything else, she said she wasn't going to tell my ex about what was said, which I do trust, but maybe she did. I can't know for sure, but realistically I haven't gone on my knee's begging for my ex(gona call kat now) to come back to me, we had a talk, more for me to get more of an understanding why I guess, but then again she knows I'm hurt, I'm more planning out what to do on here instead of charging in, I just think there's more than walking away.

    Just going to clear a few things up here, When I said she sits in her room all day, I'm not guessing, I've been told that, I've been told she's like the anti-christ as well.. I'm not familiar with these things but I imagine if someone has been stopping someone from doing something, and you get rid of the person stopping you, surly your going to go out and do it? Just saying like, my take on that would be that there's still some emotion there!

    And I know about the desperate thing, I can admit I am, but I also having acted on it. Couldn agree more with you on letting the dust settle though, I've been doing that anyway, I just prefer if there was another option than me walking away for good like.

    And the thing about her looking for a real man, yano I am mature I just guess this was the one steady thing in my life that I could rely on. She was the one person I could depend on, because my mum and dad aren't really there for me, only decent person I had a good chat with about this was her mum, which normally you'd think her mum would want me to leave her alone, but she said don't give up on her, she thinks it a phase, and I hope it is. What we had was always good, it broke all of a sudden though. And I do believe it can be fixed, I realise it's a waiting game, let dust settle, hopefully she misses me? And I know myself she isn't looking for another guy either, there's a lot of things I'm unsure of but I'm sure there isn't another "real man" floating.

    But yea my head and my heart are in sync, I just thought if she did want to go on holidays, get out of house we had a good time as friends she'd come back, relight the oul flame as one might say! I know if we do go I'm not going to be nagging her flat out about it, I won't even metion it, why would I want to make it awkward even, if she brought it up we could chat about it I guess like but I'm wouldn't go there. Even so I dought she'd accept the offer realistically?


    Reply more than 100 char's again.. thanks for the help by the way
  • Jul 8, 2011, 12:24 PM
    talaniman

    Actually we prefer the longer answers, and thanks for listening, sorry to be so blunt, but I was trying to be direct. You have potential, and I know its really hard to do nothing, especially where the heart is concerned.

    But you must realize, that looking at ones future in an objective way is crucial to any plan of action, and wrapping your plan so much in her is always a mistake if that's your only plan. Sure we hope for the best to happen, but its wise to plan for the worst.

    Hard to see that far down the road when you are young and hung up in many intense feelings, we all experience that. Take heart though my friend, this may not even be about you, but her own fears in what she sees as her future, and maybe she just ain't ready for it, and it has nothing to do with you, or any other man for that matter. It has more to do with her being lost, as she said, but not having a clue what to do about it.

    But while you bide your time and regroup, you immediate need is balance, doing something constructive and fun, as you regroup. That tends to change your own perspective. No telling what you will see when the dust has settled.

    Just curious where in the world are you generally speaking, as Americans see things a bit differently than do other cultures. What's yours??
  • Jul 8, 2011, 12:39 PM
    Jooley
    Comment on talaniman's post
    Thanks yea! Things be more clear now! Don't really understand what your asking me? Like where am I from or what are my thoughts?
  • Jul 8, 2011, 02:28 PM
    talaniman

    You don't write like an American is all. No biggie.
  • Jul 8, 2011, 02:42 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You don't write like an American is all. No biggie.

    Jooley: I don't enjoy going out, and I can't drink either, (I'm Irish by the way so when you go out for a night out in Ireland you get drunk) and well that really isn't my scene
  • Jul 8, 2011, 07:13 PM
    Jooley
    Comment on talaniman's post
    Awh OK! I'm from Ireland! Kind of been using a lot of site's, this one is most helpful so far though!
  • Jul 18, 2011, 07:58 PM
    Jooley
    What is she trying to achieve ?
    So my ex broke up with me about 3.5weeks ago, we where going out for 4years. The reason for the break up is unclear to me, but I slacked off over last 3months, that doesn't really matter though. For the first two weeks I wrote letters Facebook messaged and all that desperate stuff. Then one week ago I realised I wasn't getting anywhere so I just stopped.

    Its not that I've stopped trying I'm just regrouping. Taking time to evaluate the situation and letting the hurt go away to I guess. Its just what I felt I had to do because I was only going to push her away. Its not as if I haven't replied to her, its just I was always starting the conversations on texting internet etc, so I haven't ignored her. Just not contacted. I also changed all my passwords so she couldn log into my profile and see who I was talking to and stuff, I dno if she did look, but she new the password.

    I've have had no contact with her for this week. But now her and her sister are starting to do things to mess with me. When we broke up she made me promise to go to new Harry potter movie with her, And her sis, who lives in the same room as her wrote about just them going to it later on her Facebook page, which they don't usually do, why would you post that on someone's wall unless you wanted others to see, there's been other stuff to, I know these things are directed at me. That's not what I'm asking, I'm more wondering why are they doing this? What do they want to achieve from it? She's the one who ended it. Why are they trying to make me suffer more? Plus it not even about her sister or anything, My ex knows her password and could be logging into her account.
  • Jul 18, 2011, 08:08 PM
    Wondergirl

    It doesn't matter what she's trying to achieve. You are no longer someone important in her world. Stop whomping up suspicions and scenarios. Get beyond this and move forward with your life.
  • Jul 18, 2011, 08:17 PM
    Jooley
    Comment on Wondergirl's post
    Everyone in this site is so harsh! Different cultures though I guess, I wish it was that easy for me to get up and go. But when I stopped fighting she reacted, those things where indirectly pointed at me. Im pretty sure of that. I just don't understand is when it probably looks to her I stopped trying to get her back is when she started trying to mess with me, I don't know though. But personally for me it does matter what she's trying to achieve
  • Jul 18, 2011, 08:25 PM
    hheath541

    You need to cut contact. Stop reading her Facebook wall. Take her off your friends lists. Stop contacting her and trying to get her back.

    I'm guessing you aren't very old. Possibly still in high school. If I'm right, then a LOT changes in four years. It's very possible that she's just changed to the point where being in a relationship with you is just not what she wants anymore. If that's the case, then it isn't anything you did, and there's nothing for you to fix.

    Stop trying to get her back, and focus on getting over her and moving on.
  • Jul 18, 2011, 08:30 PM
    Wondergirl

    Everyone in this site is so harsh! different cultures tho i guess,

    What culture are you part of?

    This is a world-wide web site. All cultures ask questions and give advice.

    it does matter what she's trying to achieve

    So what do you hope she's trying to achieve?
  • Jul 18, 2011, 08:39 PM
    hheath541

    To me, it sounds like she's trying to distance herself from her overbearing ex.

    If I had an ex contacting me everyday for weeks after we broke up, I'd get a little testy, too.
  • Jul 18, 2011, 09:06 PM
    talaniman

    She wants attention of someone trying to get with them. Of course she misses that, and females love it when they get some attention. Makes 'em feel good. That by no means is a sign she has changed her mind, its just boredom, and a need for attention.

    When you leave them alone after they dump you they freak, and can play silly games for attention. Keep leaving her alone.
  • Jul 18, 2011, 09:27 PM
    Jooley
    Yea. Leaving her alone/giving her space is prob best thing I done its helping me heal if anything. Just when she starts doing this she's stopping me. Plus I ddn realise what I had until I lost it so maybe she'll experience that too, hard to know! There's a lot of other boys out there who would give her all the attention she wanted to be honest. I just don't know why she wants it off me. But yeah I know she hasn't changed her mind, just trying to figure out what she is trying to do

    This site isn't letting me reply for some reason but

    @hheath541
    I wasn't really that overbearing tbh. I had sent 1 letter 3 Facebook messages and 1 text. Over the space of two weeks. Which is a lot but not enough to make her hate me. But when I did leave her alone why would she start doing things like that. Wouldn't she just be happy? It wasn't a break up on bad terms either, I ddn do anything wrong. She should has no reason to mess with me

    @wondergirl
    Im from Ireland, if you talked to someone here they'd butter it up for you, well people that I've talked to. I like the honesty though.
    What I hope for she is trying to provoke me to do/say something.
    But I hope its because she's started to think about things since I've gone rather than out of boredem. I probably need to deactivate my Facebook for a while, I would delete her as a friend but thatd only offend her, don't really want to do that. I'm not over her yet so I still want her back and I don't really want to anything to make her mad or anything I guess
  • Jul 18, 2011, 10:50 PM
    Jooley
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  • Jul 18, 2011, 10:55 PM
    Jooley
    Comment on talaniman's post
    Serious I don't know, this site confuses me? It keeps deleting my replies.. Writing this fourth time! Yea I realise the best ting I did was leave her alone. I am slowly healing, but I realise if there is hope for us getting back she needs to realise it and not for me to force it upon her. And me leaving her alone has obviously had an effect on her, as you said not the one that will get her back but yea, you don't know what you've got until its gone, I hope she is going to go through what I went through now tbh. But at the same time I just hope she isn't playing games, I don't know! Really confused
  • Jul 18, 2011, 11:09 PM
    Wondergirl

    i just hope she isn't playing games,

    I'm female, and my money is on the fact that she is indeed playing games.
  • Jul 19, 2011, 08:35 AM
    Jooley
    Comment on Wondergirl's post
    Yea, Its what I'm thinking too. If she is I don't understand that either. Like we've been big parts of eachothers lives for last 4 years now. I was always very good too her, as was she to me. I haven't bad mouthed her or anything after what happened or anything either. She has no reason to play games with me, she said she still wanted to be friends? Why do you think she would play games? Realistically I couldn't of been nicer to her considering what happened
  • Jul 19, 2011, 08:46 AM
    Wondergirl

    Why do you think she would play games? Realistically i couldn't of been nicer to her considering what happened

    I think she is playing games as her way to separate from you and to move away from you toward new adventures. I don't think she means to be cruel.

    A two-year-old doesn't know how to "break away" from Mom in a socially acceptable way, so he kicks at his mom and thrashes around and yells "no, no, no, do myself" when she tries to help him dress in the morning. Your ex is like that two-year-old who wants to be independent, and she's conflicted because she doesn't know how to break away without hurting your feelings.
  • Jul 19, 2011, 09:01 AM
    Jooley
    Comment on Wondergirl's post
    Oh OK that's really strange, I guess what I thought is she still wanted attention from me, not meaning she wants back just wanted some attention. Because we used to talk all day everyday, for years and even after we broke up we still chatted a fair bit and then it just stopped. But even to be honest I know deep down that she still likes me, she just felt the need for change. The only thing I was annoyed about was that she didn't talk to me about this. But she has like a shell, her dad was abusive to her mum and her mum told me all about this, never heard it from her, and that when stuff started to happen my ex would just go to her room and stay there and be very quite, Which I think has giving her a shell, and she has that on right now. My point is she doesn't crave to be rid of me, I don't know, I over think things. Definitely has this shell though. I'm not the only one to think this, + she is very smart, she just missed out in medicine at college, I think she'd be smarter than that.
  • Jul 25, 2011, 06:28 PM
    hheath541

    You were together for four years. I'm assuming you are in your early twenties, at the oldest. That means she spent most of her growing up and maturing years with you.

    Not only is she dealing with a break-up. She's also trying to figure out how to adjust to suddenly not having you in her life the way she's used to. She's probably trying to find a balance between cutting you out completely and still keeping contact.

    She already has issues from her childhood, so she probably never learned how to properly deal with relationships. If you are her first real relationship, especially long-term, then she's never had to deal with a serious break-up before. She's probably making things up as she goes along and learning through trial and error.

    Give her space. Make it a clean break. Stop contacting her, or expecting her to contact you. Don't look at her Facebook page. Don't ask about her from mutual friends. It'll be easier on both of you.

    You will both have the time and space needed to heal. She won't have to worry about how to figure it out on her own, and you won't be so confused by her behavior.
  • Jul 26, 2011, 11:25 AM
    Jooley
    Comment on hheath541's post
    Yea I see your point its been 2 weeks since we've talked now and she's asking loads of people how I am, realised now anyway that we're not going to go from where we are now back to a couple, need to pass through the friend zone first. I am healed now, I'm not hurt by what she done to me I just want to be with her, I've just got to wait until she feels the same way too, and hopefully that'll come round sooner or later. Still cares if she's asking people how I am and what I'm doing. Because as I said before she still likes me, don't know if she still loves me, she just felt this is what she had to do to change things, But she is fighting for, unfortunately the fight is against time and my patience at the moment. Just got a text from her mum now as well that she wants to meet up, this was probably my ex's idea. Ive nothing to lose so I'll meet her tonight, and sure I'll tell yous what goes down, it will be an interesting one!
  • Jul 27, 2011, 08:40 PM
    Jooley
    I don't think I mentioned this but, for the first two weeks of the break up I was very sucidal, people knew as well, I was being constantly watched, and the way I got over this was by saying to myself yano I'm going to get her back, I basically built a wall, to stop all them thought coming through to me. The has cracked on me on the past few days, all the close friends I have have gone on holidays, so I've no one to talk to. And well I literally mean no one. And well I really have lost my will to live, I have tried so so so hard for last two weeks to forget about her, I haven't contacted her and its ripping me apart.

    People say it will get better with time, its only getting worse. I really don't know what to do. I haven't had any mental health issues before all this, I just think so negativly all the time now, doesn't matter if I go out and do things, if I see a girl at all I think of her, anything at all and its killing me. Literally. The only reason I haven't killed myself is because of what the aftermath would be like for her, realistically our town would think she was a cold hearted... Nobody knows I feel this way atm, I don't want her to find out. So I'm really lost on what to do, because I was never needy or clingy or stopped her from doing anything before. I just really love her, its been five weeks now and I'm getting worse instead of better. And I know I'm only young and I have a lot of living to do and things. I was just so happy in what we had and it was all snatched away so quick.

    The thing that made me feel better last time was having a talk with her mum, her mum asked me out again to chat. I'm closer with her mum than I am my own, well yano what I mean, I couldn't talk to anything like this with my mum or dad. Not close. What I'm trying to say is giving her space and trying to forget about her is making me just want to stop living, while time goes by it gets worse. The worst part is if I knew she was with another boy, I'd be gone. I wouldn't write on here if I wasn't sure this is the way I felt, but unfortunately it is.

    Sorry I know I waffled and stuff but. I dno I've no one to talk to :(
  • Jul 27, 2011, 09:22 PM
    Wondergirl

    If you committed suicide, you do realize how much that would wreck her life with extreme guilt, not to mention how much it would upset her mum. Suicide would be so not fair to them -- or to yourself.
  • Jul 27, 2011, 09:29 PM
    talaniman

    Believe me guy, I know just how you feel when fresh from high school, and your world has changed and you lose the one thing you could count on. It's a pretty confusing and stressful time.

    But the good news is you will stand on your own, and learn a lot about yourself, and how you deal with a very adult world where all kinds of things could and will happen. Not all things will be bad, confusing, and hurtful, there will be many pleasant surprises along the way. I think the key here and now, is to know and accept it hurts like hell to go through this break up, but also give yourself a chance by pushing through this situation, and let time get you through the healing process, so you can rebuild, and regroup, and make some adjustments to what has happening. Find a good thing to focus on, like your future, your education and training for a good job, and build a life that makes you happy, with friends and activities that you enjoy.

    If you get busy on the things you will need, then before you know it you will feel better, and be able to see all the options and opportunities that are available. I think you will learn very quickly that life ain't so bad, and there is plenty to do if you make that transition from boy to man, and control your own destiny.

    Don't blow it by giving into bad feelings that will eventually pass, just do your own thing, or at least find out what it is, and who you really are. And don't worry, we will listen to anything you have to say, as we have all been through the growing pains you are going through now, and have thrived, and survived, and know for a fact it ain't as easy as everybody says it is. It's the hardest thing you will ever do, getting over that first real love, but it makes you stronger in the end. That's a reward to look forward too.
  • Jul 27, 2011, 10:18 PM
    Jooley
    Comment on Wondergirl's post
    Yea I know that's why I haven't, I am currently living through this pain so she doesn't have to go through whatever she would, thing is I'm getting weaker, more fed up. I'm really sick of hurting so much all time, I have tried to go out, taking up old sports, things I use to like to do but nothing works. Its come to the point where nothing is working and I just don't know what to do with myself anymore. I've hit rock bottom and I can't get back up
  • Jul 27, 2011, 10:27 PM
    Jooley
    Comment on talaniman's post
    The reply to wondergirls is the same what it would be to you more or less. Just like to add that about these feeling passing, I don't know how much longer I can handle, instead of gradually getting better what seems to happen I'm getting worse. I just lack the will to continue, I've had a happy life anyway though. Mainly because she's been in it with me, her presence was enough to keep me happy for a lifetime, how ever short it may be
  • Jul 27, 2011, 10:33 PM
    Wondergirl

    You know, you're choosing to be miserable, to wallow in this feeling you call pain. You don't have to. You can make the choice to look ahead.

    We've all been through what you went through and we survived. It wasn't easy for a while, but we got through it.

    Are you working? Planning to go to uni? Or are you just sitting around all day moaning? Keep doing all those sports things and getting out and about. It will begin to work for you. Keep at it.
  • Jul 27, 2011, 10:50 PM
    Jooley
    Comment on Wondergirl's post
    I'm on holidays from Uni, start back in a month, and she goes to same Uni which is miles away from our town, all but two of the friends I have there are hers also, I don't think its wise for me to go back if I'm still in this zone, can't change college either because of how Irish education system works, I'd have to pay about 12000euros over the 4years to switch which isn't going to happen. Ive tried it for a good while and I'm fed up, only reason I'm posting. Should I tell people I'm sucidal?
  • Jul 28, 2011, 08:22 AM
    Wondergirl

    Is there some kind of a mental health phone number you can call for help with the suicide thinking? A hot-line of some sort?

    You really need to talk to a real-life person about this and get some help, especially while you're still on holiday.
  • Jul 28, 2011, 09:02 AM
    talaniman

    When we are very young we often wrap our world, and self worth around another. That's what you have done. That's where all that pain comes from. Building a happy life around someone else. Making it worse, is because it hurts, you want it to go away. Well its not. It can't, its way to soon, and you have to cope with that pain. Of course you have to expect it to take time, however long that is, and WORK through it. Many of us have been through that pain, and survived and gone on to better things. So will you, if you buck up and deal with YOUR own feelings in a mature way, and not let the loss of a female, however glorious you think she is, ruin all that you are working for.

    If you need help coping, yes by all means reach out to someone and let them know of the dark thoughts you are having. I hope they can help.

    Edited to add:

    Quote:

    Quote by Excon
    All you can do is accept how you feel, and MAKE good decisions about what you DO about it, instead of letting your EMOTIONS decide for you...
  • Jul 28, 2011, 11:13 AM
    Jooley
    Comment on Wondergirl's post
    Yea, I don't know if I'd like to ring them things though, I'd prefer for it yo be someone I'm comfortable with. I need to talk to her mum, she's like my mum to and I was her son, I can trust her, so she said we'd talk asap, waiting very hard on that at the moment.
  • Jul 28, 2011, 04:57 PM
    Jooley
    Comment on talaniman's post
    Yea, Rang a help line there and they asked me what does make you happy and feel better and get out of this mood, and it is trying to get her back, not like ringing her or sending her messages but thinking positivly about it. Which is true and I know that its probably only going to make me feel worse for longer but at the minute it's the safest thing I can do. Might be coming across that I love her for the wrong reasons at the moment but I don't. I wish she could have decided to go on a break instead of totally cutting things off, even if we didn't get back together in the end I wouldn't of been so attacted to her. I think about things way too much, considering moving away for a few months, hitting airport getting next plane out of there.. could be fun

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