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  • Sep 28, 2010, 07:33 AM
    amir_28
    How long can this possessive relationship last?
    She's in a relationship with her boyfriend for 5 years now. These 5 years wasn't smooth for her. She has frequent verbal conflicts with him, broke up but patched countless times. 2 years ago, she told me her boyfriend slapped her but still remained in this relationship. She tells me she has went through a lot of emotional hurt in this relationship and he is very possessive. She always thought he would change his character and possessiveness whenever she forgives him but ends up being emotionally hurt again and the cycle has been going on and on. She tells me its difficult to break up with him even though realizing the nature of her relationship. She just doesn't has the strength to move on after breaking up with. It has been 5 years and her relationship still remains the same.

    If she doesn't answer his calls or don't reply to his text messages, he'll threaten her that he'll come under her apartment or to her school. Can she end this ordeal soon enough? Is it healthy staying any further?


    Currently, she is in good terms with him. Will he ever change or will she have the strength and courage to end this for good?


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  • Sep 28, 2010, 07:40 AM
    88sunflower

    Can she end this soon enough you ask? That's not quick enough from how it sounds. Its not healthy for anyone involved staying in this type of relationship. If you don't mind me asking who is "she"
  • Sep 28, 2010, 04:16 PM
    Devorameira

    She definitely needs to end the relationship. He's a controlling jerk.

    If she's actually afraid of him she may need to involve her family and friends to make her feel safe during the breakup.

    If he actually shows up when she's told him not to, then it may be time to involve the police.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 07:03 PM
    talaniman

    That would be up to her, when she has had enough, and is sick and tired enough to leave. That could be tomorrow, or never. Sad
  • Sep 29, 2010, 07:54 PM
    Jake2008
    Who are you in the relationship if you don't mind me asking. Are you a friend, are you hoping that she will leave him for you, have you or do you see her now, in a romantic way, during her breakups, or while she's still with him?

    I hope that you encourage her to get help, and if you are a friend, that you are there for her when she needs to talk. If she decides to leave, having support in place will be a tremendous help for her.

    But without knowing your relationship with her, I'm only guessing. More context to your question would be helpful.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 07:55 PM
    amir_28
    Comment on 88sunflower's post
    She is my best friend. I have advised her so many times about her relationship. Even her friends told her he is possessive and she realises he is possessive too. I think her boyfriend does really sweet things to make her forget painful past to make her stay
  • Oct 3, 2010, 08:37 AM
    amir_28
    Is possessiveness a good thing in a relationship?
    When a guy is being possessive in a relationship, is it healthy? Especially when it lasted very long (4 - 5 years). Where there has been breaks ups but then patching back many times. Hurting the girl emotionally with harshful words and slapping a girl in the past. And then being happy with the guy for some weeks or a month or 2, and then a conflict arises and start quarrelling with each other and it becomes repitititive and the cycle goes on and on in that relationship. And that girl has went through so much of emotional hurt with that relationship. Currently that girl is in good terms with that guy. So in such situation where that girl is in good terms with him, does this mean the guy has totally changed? No more possessiveness? Permanent happiness? Or it'll get worst in the long run?
  • Oct 3, 2010, 08:38 AM
    J_9

    This is the circle of abuse. If you are the girl, get out now while you can.
  • Oct 3, 2010, 09:26 AM
    talaniman

    Quote:

    amir_28 : She is my best friend. I have advised her so many times about her relationship. Even her friends told her he is possessive and she realises he is possessive too. I think her boyfriend does really sweet things to make her forget painful past to make her stay
    Be there as a friend, when stuff hits the fan. Yes it will get worse, but the cycle of abuse brings good times as well as bad, and that's what the false hope is about. When its good its good, when its bad its absolutely horrible.
  • Oct 6, 2010, 07:06 AM
    amir_28
    What could happen if she still wishes to stay with him?
    In a long term relationship that has lasted for almost 5 years, is forgiving the guy countless times for the same mistake a good thing? The girl in this relationship has went through many break ups but patched back with him thinking he might change for good. The girl has went through so much of emotional hurt being with him. She got slapped by her boyfriend 2 years ago and she complains he being very possessive. She frequently quarrels with him but after that be in good terms with him and then after some time, another conflict starts and this has become a pattern in this relationship. This relationship has progressed this far because she has forgiven him many times. Currently she is happy with him, So what could happen if she still wishes to stay with him?
  • Oct 6, 2010, 08:55 AM
    talaniman

    She will go through this cycle of abuse until she leaves. Not understanding why you keep starting new threads asking the same thing, but please stop it.

    If your looking for different answers, I doubt you get them, so keep your questions here, and don't confuse new readers. It also helps to scroll down to where you can post your answers than to just use the comment on this post. feature.
  • Oct 6, 2010, 09:30 AM
    Cat1864

    Amir, how do you know he is possessive and abusive? How do her friends know? Have you talked to them yourself or are you relying on her to give you accurate information about her relationships? How long have you known her and how do you feel about her?

    I have a feeling much like Jake does that you may have feelings beyond friendship for this female. Are you wanting to 'save her' from this relationship so that she will turn to you?

    IF she is your only source of information, I would be careful that she isn't making up a story for reasons of her own. Are her stories consistent? Do they seem to get worse when she isn't the center of attention? Do they get better when someone mentions going to the police or talks about confronting him?

    IF she is telling the truth, then she is the one who has to end the cycle. All anyone else can do is be there for her.
  • Oct 6, 2010, 09:08 PM
    beachloverjohn

    Sounds like the two of them were very happy, until they met..
  • Oct 7, 2010, 08:26 AM
    88sunflower
    Just like the others have said this is a cycle. She forgives him each time but how many times can she forgive before its to late? What if she forgives and the next time or two the slap gets worse. Then the slap gets to be a push to the floor and a foot in the ribs. I think how ever you are involved in this you should make her aware this isn't healthy.
  • Oct 7, 2010, 09:07 AM
    beachloverjohn

    You can be a friend, advise her, help her, be there for her. But you can't make her leave. But if she does decide to free herself, it won't be an easy trek for her. But every journey starts with a step, and with you there, she won't be traveling alone.
  • Nov 12, 2010, 05:22 PM
    amir_28
    How long more can she tolerate this relationship?
    Ok, I have a best friend whom I am very concern about. She is in a possessive relationship. She is 19 and her boyfriend is 22. She has been with him for about 5 years already. She told me she has gone through a lot in this relationship.

    This is what has happened in her relationship so far:

    2 years back, she got slapped by him before. Went through so much of emotional hurt, Broke up but patched back countless times. She told me he is very possessive and controlling. She has frequent quarrels with him and it's repetitive. She will be happy with him a few weeks or a month or so but after that conflict arises and this has been a cycle in her relationship. He is very manipulative; he buys her gifts, treats her meals and pays for the movies just to convince her and to
    Make her stay with him and she falls for it

    She tells me if she breaks up with him, it'll be hard for her to move on and her heart just can't forget him.
    Even though knowing the nature of her relationship, she is still in this relationship thinking he might change one day but she still has conflicts with him, even recently she was not in terms with him.
    How long can she tolerate this? He has already hit her before so he is a potential abuser right?
    Will she come into her senses soon enough or she'll end up marrying him?


  • Nov 13, 2010, 08:06 AM
    Jake2008
    It is sad that she is not in a position to regain her independence.

    What is happening here is that he is a controlling individual, and abuse takes the form of that control, in more ways than one.

    That she cannot think for herself, and he decides who she is, how she will behave, what she will (likely) wear, who she can talk to, and can't talk to, He manipulates her thoughts and actions, in order to mould her into a possession. When she stands up for herself, he goes to extreme measures to regain control, and the cycle continues, until she is so beaten up emotionally, that she doesn't bother to fight back. She learns to not bother trying, because every time she has, he wins, and each time that happens, she is punished even more. He didn't start that way with her, but typically, he will up the ante in order to keep her, and that behaviour gets more and more controlling, until her spirit is broken, and he has total compliance.

    Someone that controlling will not stop at a slap and an argument. Whatever it takes to control her, he will do. She need to nothing wrong, because again, typically, he is likely a very jealous man. He will, in his own mind, find reasons to be suspicious, and she will be punished for what she doesn't do, or hasn't done. Defending yourself over and over again over perceived 'wrongs', leaves you battling an impossible fight- she will never win.

    There is nothing you can do, other than, let her know that you are there for her if she should decide to end the relationship. Be prepared if she comes to you, with phone numbers of shelters and emergency numbers. It takes counselling of some description, in order to understand his behaviour, in order that she can understand her own behaviour, as to why she ended up where she did. Regaining self esteem, a sense of self, confidence, etc. all take time when you come out of such a relationship. There is also an element of danger, because men who control women, do not want to give up that control, or they would have done it years ago. He will fight for it, and she needs help and support to keep herself safe, informed, and on the right track.

    But until she is ready, and makes the decision to change her life, and then take the steps to do so, there is nothing you can do. You are however, a lifeline to her, and I would advise you to keep that connection going as best you can. You are a good friend to already see the signs of abuse, and don't doubt yourself that what is going on with her, is the truth. Don't allow doubt to cloud your vision. He is who he is.

    Other than that, and being there for her when she knocks on your door, she is the only one who can change her situation.
  • Nov 26, 2010, 10:42 PM
    amir_28
    What will happen in the long run if she still stays with him?
    Especially when a girl is in a long term relationship(5 years).

    The girl has went through a lot of emotional hurt and once was physically abused, her boyfriend slapped her. There was countless break ups but then patched back with him. Her boyfriend is very possessive and manipulative. She is happy with him for a period and then a conflict starts and the cycle goes on and on. She is still with because she keeps thinking that one day he might change. How far can this relationship go in future? Will she be able to have the strength to leave him?
  • Nov 27, 2010, 10:39 AM
    Eileen G

    That depends on her. She is the only one who can make the decision to change and end this relationship.
  • Dec 18, 2010, 09:59 PM
    amir_28
    Will she still think about me or miss me?
    I'm in love with a girl for 2.5 years, but she is attached with her boyfriend for about 5 years now. Initially, she didn't like me but after a year, she started having feelings for me because her boyfriend is emotionally abusive and very possessive too and she broke up but patched back many times with him. She tells me she is confused about me and her feelings are on and off which is hurting for me. She knows I care for her very much and I made her hand made gifts just to make her smile. She always shares her problems with me. Once, she text messaged that we shouldn't talk to each other forever from now on and she never replied to my texts. Her possessive boyfriend is more important to her now. It has been almost 4 months since I last talked to her. Will she still have thoughts about me?
  • Dec 18, 2010, 11:17 PM
    Jiser

    Are you serious? I am telling this for your own good.

    Get over yourself. Get over her! Stop worrying about what she's doing and go no contact for your own sake. You sound a bit obsessive for someone who's not even interested in you.

    Your putting her ahead of yourself. Get on with your own life.
  • Dec 18, 2010, 11:38 PM
    joypulv
    I agree! She did you a favor - finally.
    Some women crave that kind of possessiveness, thinking it is a sign of intense love, and put up with the abuse just to get it. Most will lose the charm of it quickly enough, but 5 years? She needs it, wants it. Find a woman who doesn't need it, or you as a shoulder to lean on. She's out there.

    Find your friends. Gather them around and tell them this, and they will help you through the worst part until the pain is gone.
  • Dec 19, 2010, 01:37 AM
    gara
    Leave her , she is not thinking about you , she is not the one for you , you was just shoulder to cry on for her , stop thinking about her and move on and find another person who is clean and have no history or past with ex, and stop worrying because I guess she don't know how you are right now.
  • Dec 19, 2010, 09:40 AM
    talaniman

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relati...st-511642.html

    Your other posts on this subject have been merged, and soon so will this one. But you will get the same responses as you have already gotten, but at least now we began to see your attachment in this sad saga of your friend, who has dragged you into her own drama, of which you need to get out of.

    To bad you don't have the courage to tell her to leave you alone, (though she has told you that), and drown in her own sh1t! That's the only way she will awaken to her own circumstances, and make changes. Until then, she will never leave.

    So you have to leave her alone, because you are finding out how powerless you are to do anything but pray for her. So now rebuild your own life without her, and make your own world happy and stop worrying about hers. Look at how you have allowed yourself to suffer, and let it go. If its been 4 months, go for 5!!

    Its not easy, but very necessary!
  • Mar 4, 2011, 11:04 AM
    amir_28
    I was a rebound, but will she realize how much I really cared for her?
    She is in a relationship with her boyfriend for 5 years now, but it was not easy for her. Went through many break ups but patched back with him, got emotionally hurt, he slapped her once, cried a lot and her boyfriend is possessive too. For a year, she had feelings for me and liked me. She shared all her problems with me. She knew I really cared and was affectionate toward her and we had many things in common. She felt happy and comfortable talking to me. She told me she has feelings for me but was confused. Suddenly, she doesn't want to talk to me because her boyfriend didn't like it. She thinks she can't move on if she breaks up with him. I know I was a rebound. It has been 5 months we last talked and she still has problems with her boyfriend. but will she realize how much I cared?
  • Mar 4, 2011, 02:43 PM
    amicon

    Sometimes we care for people who are stuck in situations which they are unable to get out of.

    Her relationship is her problem and she must sort it out in her own good time.

    You should leave this be and get on with your life as hoping against hope that one day she will be ready for a relationship with you would hold you back from getting on with your own life.
  • Mar 10, 2011, 10:47 AM
    amir_28
    Do girls realize that they have hurt and lost their rebound & want to have them back?
    She's in a relationship with a guy for 4 years plus. She went through a lot of emotional hurt with him. He is emotionally abusive, controlling and possessive too. She broke up but then went back to him many times thinking that he might change. A guy used to like her and she too liked and had feelings for him for a year. She felt happy and laughed around while talking to him and that guy did sweet things just to make her happy. In her heart, she knew he was really sweet and was caring, but she threw him away from her life because she still had hopes that she can change her boyfriend. She's still in the same cycle with her boyfriend and has conflicts. She lost the friendship of that guy who loved her. It has been several months she last talked to him. Someday, will she realize about her lost?
  • Mar 10, 2011, 11:06 AM
    redhed35

    One can never say what the future holds, however, why wait for someone who does not want you now?

    She wants him, not you.

    While your waiting on a future maybe, your present is passing you by, along with other romantic chances.

    Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith and move forwards with your own life and leave the past behind.

    Assume she is not coming back to you, and get cracking with your own life.
  • Mar 10, 2011, 11:34 AM
    amicon

    Don't put your life on hold for someone who is caught up in her own drama.

    Go live your own life and find someone who cares for you.
  • Mar 10, 2011, 12:50 PM
    sharper11
    Maybe one day she will recognize her loss, but that is her fault. No one should WAIT to see if feelings change.

    It is unfortunate that she is blinded by love, but do not wait, move on and be happy. Do not hold a place in your heart for someone who is not holding a place for you.

  • Mar 10, 2011, 12:56 PM
    talaniman

    Boy do you need a life. You have run this same post for the last 5 months!!

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