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  • Nov 12, 2009, 06:17 PM
    Young_Cardinal
    What a mess and in a lot of pain
    Hey guys me and my ex called it quits yesterday because she felt it wasn't meant to be, and I didn't really want to argue about it since I always thought we shouldn't really talk anymore anyway
    Long story... here we go
    Met her when I was 18, at the beginning I told her I wouldn't hurt her(I feel stupid for this cause really every relationship has problems), but yea at first the relationship was great, but I started to talk to other girls that I liked and was pretty angry at my relationship for some reason cause perhaps it wasn't what I expected (it was my first relationship and she's been in a couple)
    I decided to stop talking to other girls and just work it out with her(this went on for 2 years), wed breakup once in a while only to get back soon after
    Now this is probably the key problem for me, I went to see my family for 2 months and she cheated on me while I was gone(technically broke up with me while I was on my trip without my consent pretty much and I was so mad that during that time I talked to another girl just online cause I was lonely)
    I come back and find out what she did, I was upset and asked how she could do this and said she was extremely sorry, so for the next 2 years(WOW) she's constantly trying to win me back... during this time of pain and sorrow I ended up sleeping with a girl I used to like but never got into a relationship because I guess I still cared about my ex

    I never told her what I did until we broke up like 4 years in(like 8 months ago?) and she felt betrayed and deceived, and felt like she was a fool for not knowing... rightly so I guess...
    We broke up during that time and I felt depressed and somehow was able to win her back... but again she told me she slept with a guy during that time, which I really didn't mind at that time for some reason
    But yea yesterday we went our separate ways crying, lol, and now I have a lot of regret of all the stupid things I did, but at the same time I was like 18 years old, lol, how smart could one be at that age(not saying all aren't intelligent obviously)

    This all probably sounds like a mess, and I'm currently experiencing those SICK symptoms of having difficulties eating and such, plus my mom isn't even in town cause she's taking care of my aunt in the u.s. however she is coming home soon so maybe that will help
  • Nov 12, 2009, 06:20 PM
    Young_Cardinal

    Oh I forgot to add, yea I don't know, I guess it probably was my fault
    Right now I'm not really sad I think of her being with someone else, cause CLEARLY she has the capability cause she's partying more, while I became a family man(lol)
    I'm just worried on what to do with my spare time, and the loneliness just KILLS
    Also this sickness feels like crap for sure
    I can't even do my project for university and for some stupid reason I'm still thinking about the massive CC debt she has lol
    I guess you can still care about someone even if you don't talk to them I guess
    But in anycase, I'm extremely depressed
  • Nov 12, 2009, 09:29 PM
    chuff

    As for the alone time you've just come up with, get a part time job, provide time for a charity or take up a hobby. See the sticky's for other ideas.

    As for the relationship, I think you see this now, and you certainly will in the future but this relationship was broken a long time ago. It's hard to let go when things aren't going well because you feel like you'll fall further, but the truth is you have to let go before you can grab the next part of your life. This process will actually be good for you, because you can stop and evaluate how much better you will be for the next relationship and make improvement that you can keep for yourself.
  • Nov 13, 2009, 01:12 AM
    Young_Cardinal

    Yea I feel like crap
    I'm not entirely sure how it dragged on this long
    I do care but man its hard trying to move on, definitely a lot easier said than done
    I just hope with each day that goes by I feel better and better and no "drama" occurs in between
    For now the NC thing is probably the best, and hardest thing to do
  • Nov 13, 2009, 01:39 AM
    Gemini54
    Well, it's only been a day - give yourself a chance! Of course you're going to feel some grief, remorse and pain. LOL.

    Sounds like you were angry or in pain most of the relationship anyway, so soon you'll probably be feeling relief.

    Close the door on this one - it wasn't healthy and you just kept hurting each other - over and over. There are lots of things to do to keep yourself occupied, all you need to do is open your eyes and look around you.

    There is life after break ups.
  • Nov 13, 2009, 01:49 AM
    Young_Cardinal

    Lmao gemini thanks for keeping it real :)
    I'm currently trying to figure out other factors as well that caused the early troubles just so I can analyze a potential girlfriend or something next time and not just date whoever

    i.e. I always hear these theories about how a broken family for a girl (especially no father figure) might cause cheating? Cause I noticed a trend in some of my friends that have been cheated on, the family was really broken or split up
    Regardless, all she had was her mother who I've grown to love and ill always refer to her as my "mom" as well
    I explained in my other post that she called me once saying that she accidentally called the wrong number one time and thought I had a new girlfriend and said she was happy lol and that that would be really good for me

    I guess ill just man up and hopefully ill bump into her mom one day and take that time to tell her I miss her or her other family members
    All in due time I supppose
  • Nov 13, 2009, 08:28 AM
    chuff
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Young_Cardinal View Post
    lmao gemini thanks for keepin it real :)
    im currently trying to figure out other factors as well that caused the early troubles just so i can analyze a potential girlfriend or something next time and not just date whoever

    This is a healthy must for you. Some people, like myself for example jumped from one hurtful relationship into another and only later realized upon thinking they were the same situations with different people. You can save yourself a lot of trouble by reviewing the relationship from a perspective of, what really happened in this situation and what can I do to improve the next time.

    I might caution you that two days out might not be the time to do this. Wait a few months until the emotions die down so that you can look at it with a clear head.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Young_Cardinal View Post
    i.e. i always hear these theories about how a broken family for a girl (especially no father figure) might cause cheating? cause i noticed a trend in some of my friends that have been cheated on, the family was really broken or split up
    regardless, all she had was her mother who i've grown to love and ill always refer to her as my "mom" as well
    i explained in my other post that she called me once saying that she accidentally called the wrong number one time and thought i had a new gf and said she was happy lol and that that would be really good for me

    i guess ill just man up and hopefully ill bump into her mom one day and take that time to tell her i miss her or her other family members
    all in due time i supppose

    Statistically speaking, and from my own experience I have found dating women without a father or father figure it has been clear there was a respect missing there for men. Having said that, at some point in every life a child, man or woman, must say to themselves, "this was not an ideal situation but it was the cards I was dealt. I can either let it ruin my entire life or I can let it make me stronger and know that my parents problems are not my problems."

    I'm not sure your ex ever got to that point, but the reality is, that's not your problem. You can't save someone. They have to save themselves.
  • Nov 13, 2009, 08:34 AM
    I wish
    Sounds like you're in limbo.
    1) You can be together, but there are too many issues that is preventing you from having a healthy relationship (i.e. breach of trust, personal issues, on and off status, etc.)
    a) You shouldn't get back together unless you've worked out ALL THE ISSUES that broke you up the first few times.
    2) If you keep in contact, both of you are going to have false hope that this relationship can restart one day.

    3) Because you can't fully move on, you're consciously or unconsciously putting your lives on hold for one another. Every new person you meet is going to be a rebound. That isn't fair to either of you and it isn't fair to the new people that you meet.
    I think that best choice would be to leave each other alone and go your separate ways. That way, you can fully move on. But it's your choice what approach you want to take.
  • Nov 13, 2009, 09:03 AM
    Jake2008
    It is hard to think clearly about a future without someone who has been such a huge part of your past.

    How you you suddenly become objective about yourself, when most of who you are revolves around who you were when you were with her.

    It is all too easy to keep falling back into old, familiar patterns, and relationships. It is familiar ground, good or bad, and it is far more comfortable than being just you.

    There are a lot of good reasons to reflect on the relationship, and time, combined with re-gaining your independence, will leave you in a much better position to establish a new, and different relationship. It will probably be a lot healthier one too, if you take the time to allow yourself to heal.

    You have to make a decision. You can stay in the same place, and be the person you think you need to be, and the person you are expected to be, and carry on with all the baggage that keeps accumulating.

    Or, you can make the decision that it just isn't going to work, it is time to end it, and it is time to just step up and sever ties. You don't need to explain or justify this decision to anybody- this is your life.

    Give yourself the benefit of time. It isn't easy going through any loss. There will be days you want to go running back, and days you will feel very good about yourself without her. Recognize that all of the ups and downs of a breakup are part of healing. It is natural in particular, because you are learning to live your life again.

    Set a time for yourself, some say a year, some say six months, but whatever you are comfortable with, before you decide to date again. Be in a position of loving someone without the encumbrances of a familiar past. You will know when you are ready to have a new relationship.

    Until then, any changes that you decide to make need to be made. To keep wondering and trying to make a relationship work that has long lost its lustre, is just spinning your wheels in my opinion.
  • Nov 13, 2009, 12:33 PM
    Young_Cardinal

    I honestly told her I'm not dating anyone for a while because I really need to heal
    I feel like she definitely will shag some random guy because she "needs" attention *shakes head* so that part I'm getting over quite easily with the mindset that "AT THIS VERY MOMENT SHE MAY BE DOING IT WITH SOMEONE" so I have to continue with my life

    yea it definitely is easier to just go back to the old habits but it definitely isn't healthy
    I used to have a lot of good friendships but I think a lot of people lost respect for me probably through the image that I might be weak for always forgiving her

    this whole thing is a mess, while we decided to just let it all go, she was like "BUT i feel like i dont know what i want because u take good care of me"... and she was the one who brought up that we're not meant to be

    I can honestly say though that this time it feels as if we may never talk again due to NC

    also I don't think its really healthy if 2 people who have cheated on each other actually get married lol, she brought that up and asked me what couples have done all this stuff we've done and are still together (she said "were f***** up" excuse the language
  • Nov 13, 2009, 12:35 PM
    Young_Cardinal
    To add, the most irritating thing was that all she talks about is the damn past, while I was the only one who thought about the future :(
  • Nov 13, 2009, 01:27 PM
    I wish
    You're right, it's extremely tough for a couple who have cheated on each other to get married. There are exceptions, but it will take a lot of hard work and both people invovled have to be on the same page.

    However...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Young_Cardinal View Post
    to add, the most irritating thing was that all she talks about is the damn past, while i was the only one who thought about the future :(

    ... that just shows that you're headed in different directions. All the more reason to go your separate ways.

    I think it's best to leave each other alone and move on with your lives.
  • Nov 13, 2009, 01:39 PM
    Young_Cardinal

    Yea that's true
    I'm going to go the gym today with a friend and see how I like it
    Its only been a few days and at least I'm slightly aware of how dirty my house is now lol and that perhaps I should fix my computer's fan(which I just did) so I can finish my stupid project

    Funny how it was much easier to get over a girl when I was in high school lol
  • Nov 13, 2009, 03:27 PM
    Something_Here
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Young_Cardinal View Post
    i feel like she definitely will shag some random guy because she "needs" attention *shakes head* so that part im getting over quite easily with the mindset that "AT THIS VERY MOMENT SHE MAY BE DOING IT WITH SOMEONE" so i have to continue with my life

    I like your attitude. I've been tormenting myself with thoughts about the same thing with my ex, but at least you're able to re-frame it in a constructive way.
  • Nov 13, 2009, 03:53 PM
    Young_Cardinal

    Yea it sucks thinking like some is probably going to nail her and be like "oh yea buddy i was totally rippin this one chick up last night"
    Very annoying to think about
    But if it relationships were about sex, then it would never have gotten to this point, lol
  • Nov 13, 2009, 05:38 PM
    Young_Cardinal

    Update: just went to the gym and bought a monthly pass
    Had to take a picture and I laughed at myself
    My drivers license pic, I looked so happy
    In my gym pic I look like a crackhead
    Hopefully this will motivate me to improve myself lol
  • Nov 13, 2009, 06:28 PM
    mkshult

    Young, I know you and myself are going threw a simlilar situation, granted my ex girlfriend never cheated on me, I was the one who did the cheating. I have the same thoughts going through my head that she will be the one who will be able to move on easier. Especially since my ex is still in college(senior year) I know she is probably going to hook up with a couple guys before she graduates. It's killing me a little bit thinking of that, but at the same time I know that is the reality of the situation. But I am not sure if you want to get back with your ex or not, but if you do maybe it might take her sleeping around and dating other guys to miss what you two had. Well that's at least what I am hopinh is going to happen with my ex, that after some time even though I cheated she will still be able to see how great things were between us even if I did slip up.
  • Nov 13, 2009, 09:01 PM
    Young_Cardinal

    Hmm its possible that she might miss me if she sleeps with other guys, which might occur
    I just hope that if she does decide to get back together, that by then I just really won't care anymore

    Right now it feels like I got worser problems
    I think my immune system is shot and just caught a cough or something so that's on my mind right now, plus I'm eating out way too much

    On the bright side, a buddy of mine came over for like 3 hours and we burned a lot of time playing xbox 360

    In any case, I'm clearly still distraught cause I usually track the stock market and I barely cared and took only a small glimpse of it today
  • Nov 13, 2009, 10:55 PM
    emopunk7
    It seems like you had a great day. Hang in there... Get 9 hours of sleep if possible, workout, have fun and go out and soon enough you will be happy being alone. Remember, you were happy having fun with your ex. You can havefun being single as well. I remember going on a cruise alone in Jan. I had a hell of a time. If I were single I would have let myself go nuts... There is always next time! "Whatever, Enjoy your life" <-----Last words I ever heard from my ex... lol
  • Nov 13, 2009, 11:31 PM
    2ndTime

    Facinating, after reading much relationship questions on this site, I find myself thinking that men are not just sexual beasts as I used to think. You just got to meet the right person. After divorced from abusive ex, used for booty couple of times, met a great guy (5yr relationship) who respects me for who I am and not just for sex.
  • Nov 14, 2009, 09:21 AM
    Something_Here

    It hurts to think of your ex with another guy, but you've just got to try not to think about it. Me, I figure if she's going to party and have fun, then I'm damn well going to try to do the same thing (not sex, just having fun in general). "The best revenge is to have a good life"
  • Nov 16, 2009, 02:28 AM
    Young_Cardinal

    man this is really random
    but just now I FEEL REALLY HUNGRY and currently cooking because I felt better for some reason
    I watched FORGETTING SARAH MARSHALL and talked to my old friend, we decided to go to the club next week (not really to get with girls) but just get straight hammered lmao
  • Nov 16, 2009, 03:20 AM
    mkshult

    That's what is needed!! What killed me was when me and my ex first broke I just stayed in my apartment wasting away being depressed and not recovering and losing 15 lbs!! Get out and be around people as much as possible!! It hard to adjust to life without that person that has been such a big part of it.
  • Nov 16, 2009, 03:24 AM
    Young_Cardinal
    You for sure, I'm going to try to hang out with my good friends more
    I'm hoping that I can buy a new car as well in the near future due to my stocks doing quite well
  • Nov 16, 2009, 03:25 AM
    Young_Cardinal

    And I somehow managed to complete my presentation project that wasn't due till Tuesday
    Just a few days ago I thought id be sitting here on a Monday morning crying just figuring out how to finish this lol
  • Nov 16, 2009, 09:29 PM
    Young_Cardinal

    Lol I consider this funny now
    I remember before id always want to break up, and she'd cry and run after me when I drive away
    But when I'm sad, NOTHING can be done lmao
    Well I really don't feel like acting crazy
  • Nov 17, 2009, 10:05 AM
    2ndTime

    Young_Cardinal, good to see that you are feeling yourself again.
  • Nov 17, 2009, 01:13 PM
    mkshult

    I wish I could feel like myself again... its been 2.5 months and I still think about my ex everyday!!
  • Nov 17, 2009, 01:25 PM
    Young_Cardinal

    Oh man shult, by no means do I not think about her nomore
    But I got to go out and do my thing right
    I was thinking yesterday, I'm 23 and still really young, if I waste anymore time on this relationship THEN that would be a real shame
    My current state is like at certain times I'm happy, then ill get hit with a BIG BLOW, only to get mad and say F*** that b**** lmao
    Man I'm pretty angry right now
    But I think talking to girls helps temporarily
    Still hoping I can wake up one day and not care AT all
  • Nov 17, 2009, 03:16 PM
    mkshult

    Young our stories are similar but roles are swapped. Im pretty certain what you're feeling is what my ex is feeling towawrds me right now. And it doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy about the future between me and her.
  • Nov 18, 2009, 12:02 PM
    mkshult

    Hey young just checking to see how you are doing bro. Im startint have a new outlook on life... my last Facebook status "Starting to realize that when life closes a door it also open a window. Although that window right now is just slightly cracked, but hopefully it will open up more in the future :)" I actually went out last night, and had a blast met some really awesome people.
  • Nov 29, 2009, 04:17 PM
    Young_Cardinal

    Hey guys, just doing an update!
    I'm still alive HAHA surprisingly!
    Some stuff that happened since I posted:
    1) Haven't talked to my ex at all
    2) Met this girl in class, I thought she was cool and found out she was single, only to realize that she still talks to her ex according to her Facebook page lol SAD
    3) Trying to avoid everything I did during my first breakup with this girl, even as far as talking to certain people and certain TV channels *laughs*
    4) Talked to my old friends and apologized saying that I forgot who I was, but they all seemed really nice, I'm even going to go for dinner with my old best friend(who's a girl), and I even remembered details about her last boyfriend who she broke up with recently and she told me wow you have really good memory when it comes to me lol
    5) Found out that I'm in my good buddy's class next semester so that should be fun!
    6) Might be buying a new car in the new years, so I'm amped for that, hopefully it goes through!

    Where's my ex right now? No idea, probably having sex with another guy or at some club thinking she's the greatest thing since sliced bread

    Hmm in terms of my feelings, at this point I'm more mad that I didn't get to work out today lol
    But I'm sure ill have those sad moments out of nowhere : )
  • Nov 29, 2009, 04:57 PM
    Something_Here

    Great to see that you're doing good. You should be careful about avoiding stuff just because it reminds you about your ex though. Not to say that I haven't done the same thing, but in the end you'll just limit yourself and your own life.
  • Nov 29, 2009, 05:11 PM
    Devorameira
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Young_Cardinal View Post
    hey guys, just doing an update!
    i'm still alive HAHA surprisingly!
    some stuff that happened since i posted:
    1) Haven't talked to my ex at all
    2) Met this girl in class, i thought she was cool and found out she was single, only to realize that she still talks to her ex according to her facebook page lol SAD
    3) Trying to avoid everything i did during my first breakup with this girl, even as far as talking to certain people and certain TV channels *laughs*
    4) Talked to my old friends and apologized saying that i forgot who i was, but they all seemed really nice, i'm even gonna go for dinner with my old best friend(who's a girl), and i even remembered details about her last bf who she broke up with recently and she told me wow u have really good memory when it comes to me lol
    5) Found out that i'm in my good buddy's class next semester so that should be fun!
    6) Might be buying a new car in the new years, so i'm amped for that, hopefully it goes through!!

    Where's my ex right now? no idea, probably having sex with another guy or at some club thinking she's the greatest thing since sliced bread

    hmm in terms of my feelings, at this point i'm more mad that i didnt get to work out today lol
    but i'm sure ill have those sad moments out of nowhere : )


    You sound like you're doing terrific for the short amount of time. Keep up the good work!
    You're going to be just fine without her! :)
  • Nov 29, 2009, 07:47 PM
    Young_Cardinal

    Hey something, you your right, I just want to try to avoid certain things as much as I can right now but hopefully I can do those same things in the near future
    For some reason I just really want to make a ton of money, I keep having this feeling that if I do, ill be pretty happy lol
  • Nov 29, 2009, 07:47 PM
    Young_Cardinal
    Thanks devor, you just trying to take it day by day instead of looking ahead too much
    Each day I survive is a positive rofl
  • Dec 6, 2009, 05:13 PM
    Young_Cardinal

    hey guys just doing another update, mostly to see if I'm doing any better lol
    kind of frustrated studying for my finals in 2 weeks, I figured id do it earlier, every time I do my readings I start to think about money for some reason, and that this is a complete waste of time!
    to add I'm getting bigger awfully quick for a guy who just started working out a few weeks ago...

    oh and my ex called me randomly a few days ago, I picked up to see what was going on, I figured she probably needed help haha
    turns out she had a flat tire on her way to a club with some friends and she asked me if I had the lug nut key or whatever for it, I told her no I don't think I do
    well even if I did, why the hell would I deliver it to her on a Saturday night? Am I making any sense here? Lol

    in any case I seem to be more upset about continuining my education (majoring in criminology) and almost done my 3rd year... I feel like I want to just work or something but I don't know...
  • Dec 6, 2009, 05:31 PM
    Something_Here

    She called you because she had a flat tire? She probably just wanted an excuse to talk to you and see what's up.
  • Dec 6, 2009, 09:02 PM
    Young_Cardinal

    hmm not sure, I think she really just wanted me to perhaps bring the key or whatever down where she was or perhaps for the future
    regardless it was pretty random lol
    what do u guys think about my school situation? I'm almost done my 3rd year... I feel like I should work or something somewhere bit I don't know...
    don't want to have regrets if I take a few semesters off.. im currently 23 and feel very old lol
  • Dec 6, 2009, 09:41 PM
    Jake2008
    My son hit that wall in his third year, and it was a struggle to get through it. But he did, and then the 4th year, and finally he was done. He's being very well paid to teach English in Korea, and that would never have happened had he not finished.

    Please, please, please times one zillion, do not quit now!! Ok, bend over, you need a good swift kick! Taking a few semesters off will really put you out of whack. If you had to take time off to save money to go back that's one thing. But, if there are no money problems, although it's probably tight like all students, you must keep going. Add up the days left (not very many), and mark them off each day. Give yourself a reward when you get through each week, and plan a party for when you are done.

    Reach that goal!!

    You've had upset, yes, but the foundation of your education, and being so close at hand to being finished, you will seriously regret this for the rest of your life.

    You'll get used to working. Then a car payment. Then rent. Then utilities, insurance, phone, internet, groceries. THAT will go on a LOT longer that a measly two more months!

    Are you NUTS?? Don't you DARE stop now. I am really serious when I say that you will regret this. It is within your grasp. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Get off your sorry butt and put your heart and soul into getting good marks and finishing the best you can. Give it all you've got.

    Please, knock that quitting right out of your head.

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