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Today was Day of Silence.
I participated because most of my friends are either gay or bi. My mom today after school asked me about my opinion to it all. She said that if you are gay, you are born with it, its like a genetic thing, not a choice. I dissagree with her, I believe being gay is a choice, just like being bi is a choice.
Am I right or is my mom right?
No one is right or wrong. We don't have a scientific answer to that question yet. Right now it is based solely on belief.Quote:
Originally Posted by turtlegirl16
My mom said that I could even ask her gay friend, that he would let me know that it is genetic, but I still don't believe her...
Hi Turtlegirl16
Actually, there is now scientific evidence of the brain - where they've proved that there is a hormonal difference between heterosexual and homosexual individuals. You can hold your beliefs - I won't argue with you, but I think that your Mom is correct. There are very strong genetic predispositions towards sexual preference, and many homosexual people will tell you that they knew they were born gay - long before they ever hit puberty. If being gay IS a choice - ask yourself this: WHY would ANYONE choose that choice for themselves?? It doesn't make sense. That's like saying that a person chooses to be born with downs syndrome or chooses to be born as a little person or chooses to be born with MS (mutiple sclerosis). No one would wish that upon themselves. What a person CAN choose is whether to hide being gay or deciding to accept it, and be flamboyant and parade around. That's what I believe. Anyway, I'm glad that you have gay and bi friends.
Take care.
I suggest doing some research and making your own opinion. There are statistics that go both ways, and arguments on both sides.
This is a question that does not have a answer
They have tried to prove it through science but it all sounds pretty inconclusive.
I personally believe that it is something people are born with but that's just my opinion.
A friend of mine had shown gay tendencies since a very young age... when he turned 16 he told us all he was gay...
Sorry, I just had to add this...
Are you gay or straight?
Would you just sleep with another girl because you felt like it?
Gays have been around as long as man has walked the earth, but no one knows why they are the way they are. The only thing we do know is they are people too, and deserve the same treatment we all do. You don't have to understand them, just live with them.
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Originally Posted by shazamataz
Please read the site rules, my answer was not factually incorrect therefor you shouldn't give me a reddie.
I was making a point that if you couldn't just decide to sleep with a girl then your theory of choice is wrong.
Recent scientific studies of the brain(pet scans) have shown a difference in the brains of homosexuals that give further credence to the genetic theory of homosexuality.
Years ago,before is was OK to be gay,my gay friend said to me *If it was a choice,do you think I would have chose this*?
The social stigma at the time was akin to being a social outcast.
I am of the mind set that it is NOT CHOICE.
She does this all the time with the reddies.I tried to give you a balancer greenie but had to spread the rep.The admin.will take it off ,as she is clearly misunderstanding the reason for a reddie!Quote:
Originally Posted by shazamataz
In school or my school at least they are beginning to teach the causes of homosexuality as part of science classes, and from what I've learned from that, it pushed me further into thinking its NOT a choice as well. But before the classes, I believed it wasn't a choiceQuote:
Originally Posted by artlady
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Originally Posted by artlady
Thanks artlady I appreciate the gesture :)
I personally believe that there are instances where both possibilities are true. I do believe that many people are born homosexual. That there is a physical reason for it, but I do not believe every single gay individual in the world is true to this scientific reason. Despite the stigma I do believe there are some that are gay by choice. I do not see it as a black and white question. What matters isn't the person's orientation but how the person acts, manners, morals, just the same as everyone else. Being homosexual does not mean someone is a bad person anymore then being heterosexual does. Just my opinion but that's how I feel.
Couldn't give you good rep silverfox but I like your way of thinking :)
Turtlegirl16, once again I will ask you, please read the rules and regs of this site! You cannot indiscrimately give a disagree at will.Quote:
Turtlegirl16 disagrees: this may be hypocritical but I think that's personal.
My opinion is that you're born gay, but that's just opinion, not fact.
I have gay friends too, and they all knew at a very young age that they were gay.
So, choice? I don't think so.
Why aren't you asking them?Quote:
I participated because most of my friends are either gay or bi
These are your friends? If most of your friends are gay that is a good indication you are as well.People tend to hang with people who are like them.It's all good.You have to be with people who *get you* :)
I suspect from your posts that you are struggling with some issue about your own orientation.
I also sense a lot of anger in you.From a virtual point only but I do.
For example,you have been told that you give out reddies for factually incorrect information. You continue to give them out whenever someone disagrees with your opinion.
You are angry and I think you are in some sort of a issue about your own sexual preference and please know that we will help you to the best of ability.
Being angry about things doesn't do much to change things.
You need to be nicer to people around here if you want anyone to be nice back.
Greeniies are my favorite ! I love to give greenies because its so nice when people make you think and smile and when you see them sharing the love,its all good!I think I have only given under 10 reddies. Well deserved! :DQuote:
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Altenweg agrees: You just gave me my 1100 greenie and my next square. Thanks. :)
I don't care about greenies,
Yes I do but I really want an animated avatar would be nice.I want one.Can you talk to someone :rolleyes:
I'm not even allowed an animated avatar, so I can't help you there. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by artlady
Just keep doing what you're doing, get to expert status, then to mod status, then you can have your animated avy. :)
After that, you recommend that they allow me to have one too.
See how this works? ;)
That sounds like way too much work for me:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Altenweg
Fine, then I take the reddie back and answer you question, Shazamataz. I am bisexual by CHOICE.
Well then why ask the question, you seem to believe you have the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by turtlegirl16
Others would disagree, but so what. Who cares if it's a choice or genetic? It is what it is, that's all you need to know or care about.
Why are you so mad ?Quote:
Originally Posted by turtlegirl16
You seem angry.Is there something you want to share that is making you so angry?
I'm really not trying to be nosy but if you need help,you are among friends here.
Talk it out :)
I am asking if being gay is a choice or genetics.
I have to agree Artsy. I too sense a lot of anger.
Turtlegirl, we're here to help people. If you need help then you can ask for it here.
You're anonymous, so whatever you want to talk about, it stays here.
Think about it. We're sensing a lot of contained anger in you. Maybe it's time to let it out.
No, I am not mad, its just the deal where the reddies, I thought they were ratings, that's why I put them there. It says rate this answer, Its not a "I dont wanna" thing. I just misunderstood.
What do you define as being gay? ONLY being attracted to the same gender? I personally feel that since being bi also includes attraction to the same gender then it is not defined separately. You are being awfully defensive and no one here is trying to upset you. Like artlady said, where here to listen if there's something you would like to get off your chest.
It does explain how to rate in the rules, that's why it's upsetting to all of us, it seems too many people come here and don't bother to read the rules. I had asked you yesterday not to give reddies unless the post was factually incorrect, but then today you did it again, that why I said it was a case of "I don't wanna" because you'd already been told.Quote:
Originally Posted by turtlegirl16
Misunderstandings happen, and none of use are immune to that. Now you know, so let's move on, put that in the past. Okay? :)
And just so it is clear.
The rules are;
A reddie can only be given for factually incorrect information, not for opinions.
In other words. If I write "Snow is purple" then you can give me a reddie, because that's factually incorrect. But, if I write "I think that snow is purple in some places" well, that's an opinion, not subject to reddies. Then, if you don't agree, you can quote that and post what you think. Understand?
The rules just keep things civilized. After all, we're all human, and we can all get heated at times. Trust me, I know! :eek::D
Altenweg: Did you write this in this thread because I may have overlooked that page... My easily made mistake.
Silverfoxkit: I define gay as attracted to your same gender and only that gender. Bisexual I consider as attracted to both genders, including your own.
No, it was another thread, I believe in the dogs forum, but I really don't remember which exact thread. I can check if you want, and yes, it's possible that you didn't see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by turtlegirl16
Like I said, now you know. I don't look back, I look forward, so no worries. Okay? ;)
Okay! ;)
No need to yell :)Quote:
Originally Posted by turtlegirl16
Like I said it was just a question, I never meant to offend anyone.
I don't understand bisexuals.. and I don't mean that in a mean way at all, I just genuanely don't understand. Some people are genuine about being bi-sexual and really do like both sexes but some people (especially younger girls) become "bi-sexual" because they think kissing another girl makes them "cool"
That's not me at all. I do like both sexes but honestly, I would only use dating another girl as a last resort, maybe never at all.
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Originally Posted by Bonnie46
Interesting. You really made being homosexual sound like a disability.
RIGHT? I didn't notice that...
I think in the absence of strong evidence, every one has their own opinion, whether we agree or disagree.
Mostly though I believe that we are products of our own upbringing, or beliefs when it comes to our opinions of others, especially if they can't understand the motivations or the behaviors they don't understand.
Sometimes we don't understand our own feelings, but the bottom line is how we deal with it.
I'm not understanding what you're saying... you would only date another girl as a last resort? That doesn't sound very "bi" to me. As for me, I'm gay (lesbian). I had feelings for other girls from the age of nine, and it didn't feel like a choice at all. It's just the way I am. If you have so many gay friends, I'm shocked you haven't asked them... if you can't ask your friends, who can you ask?Quote:
Originally Posted by turtlegirl16
I am on your mom side.
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