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  • Jan 27, 2009, 08:39 PM
    Jlesnik33
    Honestly how do you feel
    Tell the truth do gay people bother you, and how do you feel about them? I won't be hurt, I just want to know other peoples outlook on it
  • Jan 27, 2009, 08:42 PM
    MarkwithaK

    I personally have no issues one way or the other. I used to work with a traveling ice show and the majority of the male cast were gay. I knew they were gay and they knew I was straight. As long as no lines were crossed then it was fine. I'm curious as to why you feel the need to ask this question here.
  • Jan 27, 2009, 08:48 PM
    ImTotallyLost

    I'm bothered by annoying gay people. But it has to do more with them being annoying!

    Seriously, though, why would I be bothered by gay people?
  • Jan 27, 2009, 08:51 PM
    Alty

    Gay people don't bother me, why would they?

    I don't define people by their sexual preference, that's such a small part of our lives.

    If you're a good person then I couldn't care less if you're straight, gay or bi, but, if you're a bad person I won't like you no matter what your sexual preference is. ;)
  • Jan 27, 2009, 09:01 PM
    juhi2011

    Well, I have never come across any gay couple till date , but I am sure they will bother me when I see them for the first time. But that first time will be the last time I suppose...
  • Jan 27, 2009, 09:25 PM
    Noodles15

    I've had/have many gay relatives and a few gay friends.


    People are not defined by their sexuality.
  • Jan 27, 2009, 09:52 PM
    Jlesnik33
    I was just asking because I'm a lesbian. I lost my best friend of 16 years because I came out I guess it made her feel weird around me or something and I wanted to know what people out in the world actually thought. Ive been with my girlfriend for 2 years now and where we work is trying to rid of one of us because we are gay I'm just confused I guess
  • Jan 27, 2009, 09:59 PM
    MarkwithaK

    How is it that you know exactly that they are trying to get rid of one of you because you are gay? Surely they didn't come out and tell you this.
  • Jan 27, 2009, 10:52 PM
    simoneaugie

    Hmmm, the lesbians (at least 10) I have become acquainted with are great people. There is anger in many of them, and fear, both of which are understandable.

    Gay men I have found mostly easy to talk to. Their fears are more like those of a woman and seem less "out of control" than the fears of straight men. I feel very safe, able to be myself when working with them.

    Gays of both genders seem to have more capacity for guile or an esoteric nature. When people react negatively to someone's sexual orientation I walk away from them and hope their thrown stones don't hit.
  • Jan 28, 2009, 06:19 AM
    kctiger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jlesnik33 View Post
    i was just asking because im a lesbian. I lost my best friend of 16 years because i came out I guess it made her feel weird around me or something and i wanted to no what people out in the world actually thought. Ive been with my girlfriend for 2 years now and where we work is trying to rid of one of us because we are gay im just confused i guess

    If your friend left you for this, they were never truly a friend.

    As far as the gay comment... with the passing of time the evolution of societal norms, expectations, judgements, and acceptance guidelines change. I think our society in general is learning to realize that it isn't what you do in your own bedroom that defines you, so I would hope that most people can look past this as some character flaw. That being said, there are still some people who, perhaps narrow minded, cannot accept this or understand the "why," when the real question they should be asking is ,"Who cares? This has no effect on me whatsoever."

    I have no problems with people who are gay... who am I to judge?
  • Jan 28, 2009, 06:39 AM
    neverme

    If you lost your 'friend' because of your sexuality s/he was never a friend to begin with.

    What you have to do now is start concentrating on yourself, NOT other people and NOT your relationship. Just YOU. It is wonderful to be in a relationship that works, but don't hide behind that. Make sure that you know who you are with and without this relationship.

    It doesn't matter if the whole world loves you, or hates you. You are you. Who you love, or are attracted to, will not change whether people accept you. People have tried to deny it or hide it for the 'benefit' of others and it never works. They end up miserable.

    If you look to the past and all the gay rights activists, they tread the unbeaten path not because they wanted to make a statement or stand away from the norm, they did it because they had no other choice. They were what they were and there was no way of changing that.

    Accept who you are and who you love. The people that come into your life after you have done this will be true friends who know you for all of you. That's not to say cast all your friends that you have had for years to the side and start a new life. Just don't allow close-minded people to dictate the way you live your life.
  • Jan 28, 2009, 06:48 AM
    natalie1987

    Personally I have no problem with gay people it's their choice in life and to honest it doesn't affect me in anyway its nothing to be ashamed of.
  • Jan 28, 2009, 07:36 AM
    talaniman

    I have met many good people who happen to be gay, and many screwed up folks, who are straight.

    Who you share your bed with is not how I judge whether you're a good person or not, how you relate to others is.
  • Jan 28, 2009, 02:15 PM
    Jlesnik33

    Because our . Manager when he first started was saying how lesbian and gays he can't stand them then finding out that we were together he would pick on us all the time
  • Jan 28, 2009, 04:03 PM
    Alty

    That's illegal, your boss cannot discriminate against you because you're gay.
  • Feb 2, 2009, 05:57 AM
    neverme

    It doesn't stop them so you have a choice fight or flee?

    Only you can decide which is the right answer for you.
  • Feb 2, 2009, 06:06 AM
    bobbalina

    My belief is that being 'gay' is wrong... I don't believe in it at all but irionically I have a gay friend but I really don't see her as that... I mean I don't hate them... its just not what God intended on...
  • Feb 2, 2009, 07:13 AM
    kctiger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobbalina View Post
    my belief is that being 'gay' is wrong...i dont believe in it at all but irionically i have a gay friend but i really dont see her as that...i mean i dont hate them...its just not what God intended on...

    I think you need to re-evaluate your opinion on this. To call something like this wrong kind of peeves me. I respect your opinion, but I also hate when you bring God in this. God didn't intend on abortion, on people killing other people, on people cheating on their significant others... did he(she)? Doubtful. What God did intend is the nature of free will, which makes humans... human.

    Please, refrain from calling someone's choice of lifestyle 'wrong.' Last time I checked, being in a position to call someone's basic lifestyle choice "wrong" makes you above anyone else...

    I know the OP asked for an honest opinion, so no offense against you... however I don't think it is your place to decide right in wrong in someone else's life.

    Carry on... :cool:
  • Feb 2, 2009, 07:19 AM
    bobbalina
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kctiger View Post
    I think you need to re-evaluate your opinion on this. To call something like this wrong kind of peeves me. I respect your opinion, but I also hate when you bring God in this. God didn't intend on abortion, on people killing other people, on people cheating on their significant others...did he(she)? Doubtful. What God did intend is the nature of free will, which makes humans...human.

    Please, refrain from calling someone's choice of lifestyle 'wrong.' Last time I checked, being in a position to call someone's basic lifestyle choice "wrong" makes you above anyone else...

    I know the OP asked for an honest opinion, so no offense against you...however I don't think it is your place to decide right in wrong in someone else's life.

    Carry on...:cool:

    it says in the Bilble that being 'gay' is wrong and I will never change my opinion on it... and it's a He, it says it in there too... all that stuff you said that God didn't inntend on it well its not his doing its satan's... your not an atheist are you? God does not hate gay people. God really loves all people. God does hate the homosexual acts. God's son Jesus died so that none, NONE, should perish. God forgives everyone that sins so long as they repent. Repenting is not just saying that you are sorry, it is realizing that it is a sin and trying to not do it again. According to the bible the homosexual acts are a sin. So is lying, cheating, stealing and many, many more things. All of these sins anger God but as a parent He still loves his children.
  • Feb 2, 2009, 07:25 AM
    kctiger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobbalina View Post
    it says in the Bilble that being 'gay' is wrong and i will never change my opinion on it...and its a He, it says it in there too...all that stuff you said that God didnt inntend on it well its not his doing its satan's...your not an athiest are you? God does not hate gay people. God really loves all people. God does hate the homosexual acts. God's son Jesus died so that none, NONE, should perish. God forgives everyone that sins so long as they repent. Repenting is not just saying that you are sorry, it is realizing that it is a sin and trying to not do it again. According to the bible the homosexual acts are a sin. So is lying, cheating, stealing and many, many more things. All of these sins anger God but as a parent He still loves his children.

    So... I take it you have met "him" huh? I apologize...

    Carry on... :cool:
  • Feb 2, 2009, 07:25 AM
    talaniman

    Quote:

    It says in the Bible that being 'gay' is wrong
    It also says don't judge, so which is the greater sin? According to my Christian friends the sins are equal so being wrong can fall on us all.
  • Feb 2, 2009, 07:53 AM
    bobbalina

    People will do what they please... im not judging I mean what's wrong is wrong...
  • Feb 2, 2009, 08:18 AM
    Justwantfair

    If your employer is isolating and discriminating you it is against the law.

    You need to seek out an attorney and protect yourself and your job. Most attorney's will take employment cases on a contingency (not collecting fees unless you win your case), but it is in your best interest to speak with an attorney on that matter.

    I do not choose to be straight anymore than I believe that gay people choose to be gay. As a human and a Christian my position is not to judge a person on who they sleep with but for who they are as a person.
  • Feb 2, 2009, 08:24 AM
    neverme
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobbalina View Post
    it says in the Bilble that being 'gay' is wrong


    Why do you used inverted commas around the word gay?

    The OP did ask for all opinions on this thread so in all fairness I think that bobbalina has as much right as the opinions I agree with to post their opinion.

    But a word to the wise, carefully read the bible before you 'quote' it. And remember that the Bible was not written by god. It was written by men, ironically with free will. They may or may not have used it to alter the words of god.

    And to bobbalina, you've expressed your opinion, that was all that this thread asked for.

    To anyone 'peeved' (as I must admit I was) I would not recommend making this thread a fight between the LGBT and religious communities.
  • Feb 2, 2009, 08:25 AM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobbalina View Post
    it says in the Bilble that being 'gay' is wrong and i will never change my opinion on it...and its a He, it says it in there too...all that stuff you said that God didnt inntend on it well its not his doing its satan's...your not an athiest are you? God does not hate gay people. God really loves all people. God does hate the homosexual acts. God's son Jesus died so that none, NONE, should perish. God forgives everyone that sins so long as they repent. Repenting is not just saying that you are sorry, it is realizing that it is a sin and trying to not do it again. According to the bible the homosexual acts are a sin. So is lying, cheating, stealing and many, many more things. All of these sins anger God but as a parent He still loves his children.

    Do you eat shellfish? That's not allowed either, according to the bible.

    You also included lying in that list. Of course it's a sin, but can you honestly tell me that you never lie? I know I do.

    Have you ever cheated? On anything? I think everyone has.

    Hmmm, maybe none of us are going to heaven, after all, no one is without sin.

    Judge not lest you be judged. It's a slippery slope.
  • Feb 2, 2009, 08:26 AM
    Romefalls19

    I don't really care which one you chose to be honest, I don't judge them on there sexual preference but on what stupid acts them or anyone does. Like riding with a right blinker on for 2 miles then making a left!

    Sorry, had to vent on moron drivers this morning!
  • Feb 2, 2009, 08:55 AM
    bobbalina
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by neverme View Post
    Why do you used inverted commas around the word gay??

    The OP did ask for all opinions on this thread so in all fairness I think that bobbalina has as much right as the opinions I agree with to post their opinion.

    But a word to the wise, carefully read the bible before you 'quote' it. And remember that the Bible was not written by god. It was written by men, ironically with free will. They may or may not have used it to alter the words of god.

    And to bobbalina, you've expressed your opinion, that was all that this thread asked for.

    To anyone 'peeved' (as I must admit I was) I would not reccomend making this thread a fight between the LGBT and religious communities.

    Get your facts straight God told those men what to right... 'men of God'... I did read it and it says God loves all people and doesn't like the homosexual act... anybody can judge... God condemns... which chooses your judgment
  • Feb 2, 2009, 08:58 AM
    Alty

    Quote:

    God condemns
    What happened to "God loves all his children?"
  • Feb 2, 2009, 09:06 AM
    neverme
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobbalina View Post
    get your facts straight God told those men what to right...'men of God'...i did read it and it says God loves all people and doesnt like the homosexual act...anybody can judge...God condemns...which chooses your judgment


    I'd just like to tell you that 'to write' is spelt 'write' not 'right'.

    That's all I'm going to say because I don't want this to turn into a battle, as I said.
  • Feb 2, 2009, 09:10 AM
    bobbalina
    Well my bad dam it!
  • Feb 2, 2009, 09:14 AM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by neverme View Post
    I'd just like to tell you that 'to write' is spelt 'write' not 'right'.

    That's all I'm going to say because I don't want this to turn into a battle, as I said.

    You're right.

    This isn't the right place to continue this, it will go south very quickly.

    I'll back down now. It's just so frustrating! :(
  • Feb 2, 2009, 09:15 AM
    bobbalina

    Well it's the same as a liar and a thief you're the one who chooses the way you live... if it isn't through God sorry but your going to hell
  • Feb 2, 2009, 09:17 AM
    bobbalina

    You told me to base my opinion quit f'n judging me
  • Feb 2, 2009, 09:20 AM
    Romefalls19

    Bobbalina, you are entitled to your interpretation of the bible but you do not know where anyone is going. Last time I checked even the church is screwed up. This is a relationship board, not a religious one. The OP asked our opinion on the subject, not "God's" opinion. If you don't like gays, fine by it, I'm sure there are choices you have made that "God" wouldn't agree with either.
  • Feb 2, 2009, 09:41 AM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobbalina View Post
    you told me to base my opinion quit f'n judging me

    Bob, you're judging others but you don't want to be judged? We're just stating our opinions too, are we not allowed to do that?

    You can't have it both ways. You do have to realize that many people don't agree with your opinion. Yes, you do have a right to your opinion, that's a human right that all of us have. I just happen to disagree with you.

    You judged, now you're being judged, ring a bell?

    If your belief gives you comfort, well, you're lucky. I cannot accept a God that pushes aside his creation. If he created the world, then didn't he also create homosexuality? If so, then why would he turn his back on homosexuals? That just doesn't make any sense to me. I don't believe that it's God that hates homosexuality, only man has the capability to hate, God is supposed to be all loving, that's what I believe.

    Enough. Sorry everyone, I just couldn't let it drop without saying my peace. Religion and sex have never mixed, if we want to discuss this further perhaps a new thread should be opened. Bob, I'm more than willing to discuss this with you, start a thread in relgious discussions, post the link, I'll be there.

    Peace.
  • Feb 2, 2009, 09:45 AM
    Romefalls19
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    Bob, you're judging others but you don't want to be judged? We're just stating our opinions too, are we not allowed to do that?

    You can't have it both ways. You do have to realize that many people don't agree with your opinion. Yes, you do have a right to your opinion, that's a human right that all of us have. I just happen to disagree with you.

    You judged, now you're being judged, ring a bell?

    If your belief gives you comfort, well, you're lucky. I cannot accept a God that pushes aside his creation. If he created the world, then didn't he also create homosexuality? If so, then why would he turn his back on homosexuals? That just doesn't make any sense to me. I don't believe that it's God that hates homosexuality, only man has the capability to hate, God is supposed to be all loving, that's what I believe.

    Enough. Sorry everyone, I just couldn't let it drop without saying my peace. Religion and sex have never mixed, if we want to discuss this further perhaps a new thread should be opened. Bob, I'm more than willing to discuss this with you, start a thread in relgious discussions, post the link, I'll be there.

    Peace.


    In the voice of the main actor in "Meet The Spartans"

    "You got served"
  • Feb 2, 2009, 12:20 PM
    bobbalina

    Like I said to me it isn't right but whatever I gave my opinion
  • Feb 2, 2009, 01:05 PM
    jmw0713

    I personally don't care if you're gay, straight, bi, lesbian, blue, black, purple, brown, small, fat, skinny, tall, or whatever. It's how you act as a person and how you act toward me that governs whether I like you or not.
  • Feb 2, 2009, 02:20 PM
    talaniman

    That's enough opinions on this subject!

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