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  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:37 PM
    tearingapart
    Is it abusive? Or is it just me
    I have a boyfriend who I've been with for nearly a year now, in a distant relationship. We broke up mid year and stayed broken up for ages, but now we're back together.

    When we were together before. He broke up with me all the time, and then threatened to kill himself. I would cry and cry and beg him not to and say ill change and be a better girlfriend. And then he'd reluctantly get back back with me. It really hurt me because he'd say, oh you never show me you love me. But it was never good enough.

    He keeps hurting me, he tells me he thinks other girls are hot, and that he would do them, but if I say anything, ill get shouted at and a big fight will start and ill probably get dumped again. This morning, I called him to see if he was awake so he wouldn't be late for work. He didn't answer so I sent him a message saying please message if you're awake. He didn't message so I messaged again saying I'm worried and I might call again.

    Then like ages later he called me and was all angry at me. Shouting and swearing and saying that I always mother him and he doesn't want to be with me anymore.

    Is the way I'm behaving irrational? I'm just trying to show him that I care, but am I over doing it? I really don't understand. I truly love him. But I don't know how I can keep this relationship going if he's always going to find fault with me.


    Please help :(
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:42 PM
    mewmewgirl

    I may be new to this but it sounds to me as he doesn't treat you right.But if you want to keep going out with him you should give him space once in a while.And if he hurts you or yells you should stop seeing him.
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:42 PM
    Eileen1218

    Stop blaming yourself . You know who is at fault... just dump him... he IS abusing you!
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:44 PM
    dazzling

    It is absolutely irrational and abusive.

    He is enough for u to refer this relationship to a domestice-violence hotline.

    NO one has the right to treat u like this. That is not a boyfriend, that is an enemy who is trying to break u.

    Get out now. Next time he says he will kill himself (which is manipulative) tell him to call the suicide hotline. Or u will call the cops ibecause it is illegal to take ones life. He will call his bluff in no time!

    Good luck.
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:45 PM
    tearingapart

    Thank you. I think the giving him space thing is a good idea.

    But the thing is, I'm emotionally attached to him. If I was to break up with him, it would seriously destroy me.

    When we were broken up before I got into self harm because the pain just became unbearable. I can't do that again...
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:46 PM
    mewmewgirl

    Look he is ovisly using you!Probably to show of!
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:47 PM
    dazzling
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tearingapart View Post
    i have a boyfriend who iv been with for nearly a year now, in a distant relationship. we broke up mid year and stayed broken up for ages, but now we're back together.

    when we were together before. he broke up with me all the time, and then threatened to kill himself. i would cry and cry and beg him not to and say ill change and be a better girlfriend. and then he'd reluctantly get back back with me. it really hurt me because he'd say, oh you never show me you love me. but it was never good enough.

    he keeps hurting me, he tells me he thinks other girls are hot, and that he would do them, but if i say anything, ill get shouted at and a big fight will start and ill probably get dumped again. this morning, i called him to see if he was awake so he wouldnt be late for work. he didnt answer so i sent him a message saying please msg if you're awake. he didnt message so i messaged again saying im worried and i might call again.

    then like ages later he called me and was all angry at me. shouting and swearing and saying that i always mother him and he doesn't want to be with me anymore.

    is the way im behaving irrational? im just trying to show him that i care, but am i over doing it? i really dont understand. i truly love him. but i dont know how i can keep this relationship going if he's always going to find fault with me.


    please help :(


    I don't understand why u would miss treatment like this?
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:47 PM
    tearingapart
    But I should also mention, when we're good, we're really good!

    I feel incredible happiness!

    And he makes me feel like he genuinely loves me.

    But then he snaps and I feel like , yet I get blamed...

    But the good out weighs the bad kind of, so I'm stuck.

    Last night I found out he had ADHD when he was younger, and still has bouts of it, and that's why he gets so angry...
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:48 PM
    mewmewgirl

    SO it is not an excuse.
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:50 PM
    tearingapart
    But we live in different states of the country!

    How can he be showing off?

    He always cries to me and says that I'm going to leave him because I'm beautiful and he's scum and stuff.

    I deny this always. And tell him we'll be together.

    But its just so confusing. I don't want to break up with him, I want to say something to him that'll show him how much he hurts me.

    But another thing, after big fights. He'll call and say sorry, and that his a jerk, and that he knows he hurts me and he's going to stop because he loves me.

    But it always happens! I really want it to work because he's a really special person but I just don't know what to do


    Ps. Thanks for everyone's help. You guys are great!
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:51 PM
    tearingapart
    What does "SO it is not an excuse" mean?
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:52 PM
    mewmewgirl

    All right say it is hurtful and you cry at night and can't eat.And it feels like he is tearing you to shreads.
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:53 PM
    N0help4u

    You are emotionally attached to him because he is emotionally blackmailing you by guilting you into staying with him. A healthy love would not be making you feel obligated by the anger, threats, swearing and yelling.
    When he 'threatens' to leave you tell him goodbye and hang up on him and go to NO contact. He is playing manipulative word games to box you into a no win situation.
    Trust me you will fall in love many times over but you need to learn to fall for a guy that can love you back. This guy doesn't have the foggiest idea how to love.
    Why does he deserve your love when he can't give it back?
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:53 PM
    Eileen1218

    What will you do when he hits you??
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:53 PM
    mewmewgirl

    Wait what is the year diference?
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:53 PM
    tearingapart
    dazzling - I don't know why :( its because I love him I think.

    When I was younger my dad was pretty emotionally abusive, my mum and him are divorced, and my mum used to say she was worried that I would get involved with people like my dad, because he always used to reject me, and I just wanted his love.

    I don't know why I love my boyfriend. I really don't. But I would feel so guilty if I broke up with him because I have no doubt he'd try and kill himself. I don't want that on my conscience...
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:54 PM
    tearingapart
    3 year age difference. He's older
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:56 PM
    mewmewgirl

    Ha there is the problem he thinks he is better
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:57 PM
    tearingapart
    But NOhelp4u, he'd kill himself if I did that. I have deep feelings for him.

    He's incredibly manipulative and I know that. But I just go along with it because there's things in his life that make his life really hard.

    His dad beats him.
    His mums an alcoholic.
    He has lung cancer.
    His little brother drowned while he was supposed to be watching him.
    His best friend died in a car accident.

    Just lots...
  • Dec 16, 2008, 04:58 PM
    tearingapart
    I'm hoping he won't hit me...

    But the day he does, is the day I will end it for good.

    I've promised myself that.

    But can someone tell me,

    Besides cheating.

    What is the single most unforgivable thing a one can do in relationshiP?

    Because I feel I've let my standards stoop incredibly low.

    He bullies and I just deal with it. I hate how little self esteem I have
  • Dec 16, 2008, 05:00 PM
    mewmewgirl

    AYE I'm going to go all spanish on you.
  • Dec 16, 2008, 05:00 PM
    mewmewgirl
    He say other girls look better that can hurt emotionally
  • Dec 16, 2008, 05:07 PM
    N0help4u
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tearingapart View Post
    but i would feel so guilty if i broke up with him because i have no doubt he'd try and kill himself. i dont want that on my conscience...

    He is emotionally blackmailing you by saying he would kill himself.
    That is the most unhealthy reason to stay with somebody. Can you really picture yourself in a confusing hurtful relationship like this for years to come? Eventually you will see the light and break up with him or stay with him and be miserable with no way out.
    You need to think of yourself and get help!
    Manipulating you with guilt is no good reason to stay in a relationship. You will never have a life at all. Whatever he does is his own doing not your responsibility you can not save him from himself.

    You need to read some books on this

    Emotional Blackmail, Susan Forward, Book - Barnes & Noble
  • Dec 16, 2008, 05:08 PM
    tearingapart

    Mmm. It does hurt. And I make a big deal of never saying guys are hot in front of him. I'm just starting to think I'm losing feelings for him. But I think the same is happening to him.

    And the horrible thing is, I want to be the one that finishes on top :( I'm awful, I know. But just for once I want him to know how painful and confusing and hurtful it is
  • Dec 16, 2008, 05:11 PM
    tearingapart
    Thank you very much NOhelp4u. I will go and get that one from the library.

    But in reply, I'm just hoping that he will change... because when he is in a good mood, he is one of the funniest and loveliest and loving people ever
  • Dec 16, 2008, 05:15 PM
    N0help4u

    You can find a funny loving person that doesn't put you through the wringer!
    You are not wrong for wanting to finish on top because he has you so beaten down you need to rise above it all and be on top for your own sanity's sake!
  • Dec 16, 2008, 05:18 PM
    tearingapart

    That's the problem though. I don't think I can...
    My whole life people have told me that I'm really beautiful and pretty and stunning and everything.

    But I got a knee problem and had to stop exercise. I put on mountains of weight, and now I feel that no one could want me. Its distressing.

    That's why I'm not used to someone actually saying they love me.

    That's why I don't want to let it go...
  • Dec 16, 2008, 05:20 PM
    N0help4u

    Look around most women I know that have a relationship are overweight. I am not over weight and I can't get a boyfriend. I look at all the girls around me and most of them are overweight and have a boyfriend.
    Being overweight doesn't have a thing to do with it any more.
    I have been saying Thin is suppose to be in but fat seems to be where its at.
  • Dec 16, 2008, 05:24 PM
    tearingapart

    I'm 15 though. It has a big impact at this age.
  • Dec 16, 2008, 05:38 PM
    N0help4u

    Yes and all the more reason to get away asap!
  • Dec 16, 2008, 05:47 PM
    asking

    This boyfriend has WAY too many problems and he is not good for you. Take a deep breath, prepare for a few weeks of heartache and move on. It will hurt a little at first, but once you are out you will feel much better.

    At your age, you can lose the weight, and someone else will come along who is better for you. Don't waste another second on this guy. He may have a lot of problems, but it's not your job to sacrifice your life so he can have someone to beat up on. Let him come to terms with his problems.

    And I agree, if he threatens suicide again, call the cops and report him. He needs professional help. (And it's not help you can provide.)
  • Dec 16, 2008, 06:02 PM
    N0help4u

    You can not help him he has your hands tied and you are in over your head simple as that.
  • Dec 18, 2008, 08:01 AM
    talaniman

    What a sad story, for one so young. You can change your whole life around, by getting rid of him, and learning to love yourself.

    You don't love him, he is just a crutch you put up with, to be loved, but his kind of love, is unhealthy, and dangerous.

    When you get over your past hurts, and decide to be good to yourself, and not him, things will turn for the better.

    Yourself esteem will grow faster, without you allowing him to beat you up emotionally, so get yourself in gear and do something good for yourself, and stop being an emotional punching bag.

    Can't you see he is sick, and making you sick too?

    And stop telling yourself what you can't do, you can do whatever you want so don't you want to be happy and healthy?

    Leave sicko boy alone, so he can deal with his own issues, as you are enabling him to be the b@sT@ard he is.
  • Dec 18, 2008, 08:12 AM
    HistorianChick

    You're 15? Sweetheart... you're WAY too young to have such a weight on your shoulders.

    This type of relationship isn't good no matter WHAT your age is.

    When someone hurts you and makes you feel inferior, that person is not even your friend, let alone your boyfriend.

    If your best girl friend was in this same situation, what would you tell her?

    You're in high school... please stay away from this boy. You said he's 3 years older - that means he is 18? Please leave him alone.

    Don't say "when he hits me I'll be gone." Even the fact that you had to say that says your relationship is wrong.

    Please, get away. Stay away. Start having fun in high school... don't let this boy poison your youth.
  • Dec 18, 2008, 10:10 AM
    dazzling
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HistorianChick View Post
    You're 15?? Sweetheart... you're WAY too young to have such a weight on your shoulders.

    This type of relationship isn't good no matter WHAT your age is.

    When someone hurts you and makes you feel inferior, that person is not even your friend, let alone your boyfriend.

    If your best girl friend was in this same situation, what would you tell her??

    You're in high school.... please stay away from this boy. You said he's 3 years older - taht means he is 18? Please leave him alone.

    Don't say "when he hits me I'll be gone." Even the fact that you had to say that says your relationship is wrong.

    Please, get away. Stay away. Start having fun in high school... don't let this boy poison your youth.

    Absolutely.:)
  • Dec 24, 2008, 05:59 AM
    starbuck8
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tearingapart View Post
    i have a boyfriend who iv been with for nearly a year now, in a distant relationship. we broke up mid year and stayed broken up for ages, but now we're back together.

    when we were together before. he broke up with me all the time, and then threatened to kill himself. i would cry and cry and beg him not to and say ill change and be a better girlfriend. and then he'd reluctantly get back back with me. it really hurt me because he'd say, oh you never show me you love me. but it was never good enough.

    he keeps hurting me, he tells me he thinks other girls are hot, and that he would do them, but if i say anything, ill get shouted at and a big fight will start and ill probably get dumped again. this morning, i called him to see if he was awake so he wouldnt be late for work. he didnt answer so i sent him a message saying please msg if you're awake. he didnt message so i messaged again saying im worried and i might call again.

    then like ages later he called me and was all angry at me. shouting and swearing and saying that i always mother him and he doesn't want to be with me anymore.

    is the way im behaving irrational? im just trying to show him that i care, but am i over doing it? i really dont understand. i truly love him. but i dont know how i can keep this relationship going if he's always going to find fault with me.


    please help :(

    This is so sad. You are only 15! This is not what you should be doing at 15! You should be hanging out at the mall with your girlfriends, going to the movies, having sleep overs, dreaming of your future! Not worrying about some boy, who is already 18 and is already showing the typical signs of an abusive man. Abuse is much more than physical sweetheart. In fact, if you ask most women that have been abused, they will tell you that the physical injuries heal, but the emotional scars never go away! Verbal and emotional abuse are the worst kind of abuse, and the easiest to hide. You can't see the outward scars. You can see a black eye or a bloody lip, but you can't see emotional bleeding.

    Your mother was right. You are doing exactly what she was afraid you were going to do. Your father was abusive to your mother, and that is what you saw and learned. That seems like it's normal to you. So now you have decided that you are going to try and help someone who's intentions are only to hurt you. This boy is POISONOUS to your life. You can't help him! He sees your weaknessess, and he is using them to his advantage. He's luring you into his web of abuse, by playing on your weaknesses. He knows it, but you can't see it.

    I think you need to talk to your Mom. Listen to her, and ask her to tell you what she had to go through with your Dad. Look at the pain in your Mom's face. I don't think you want that to be your pain. Trust me, you don't!

    Try and get involved in other things that will make your life better. You cannot help this guy. He doesn't respect you, and he doesn't love you. I'm not saying this to hurt you, I'm saying this to help you to understand. When you truly love someone, you do not say and do abusive things to them. You are feeling sorry for this boys supposed hard life. That is NOT LOVE honey! That is PITY! You think you can save him, and if you love him enough he will change for you, and all will be well and you will live happily ever after. Well we would all wish it went that way, but that isn't reality. You are wanting him to be something that he isn't. You aren't IN LOVE! You are in LOVE with the feeling of "BEING IN LOVE!!" They are two different feelings.

    Please leave this boy alone. It can only get worse from here. I do know what I am talking about, and I wouldn't lie to you. He WILL hit you if you stay, and he will drain yourself confidence and self worth, and it will damage your future relationships... because trust me, there will be more.

    Sweetheart, get yourself a puppy or a kitten. They will teach you what unconditional love is all about. A pet will always be there for you, no matter if you are happy, sad, angry or frustrated! They can teach you what real love is if you give them a chance and pay attention to the lesson they are trying to teach you. And as a bonus?. a dog will never call and yell at you on the phone! :)

    Give yourself some time to grow up honey! Don't start if off with all of this drama!
  • Dec 24, 2008, 07:31 AM
    liz28
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tearingapart View Post
    dazzling - i dont know why :( its because i love him i think.

    when i was younger my dad was pretty emotionally abusive, my mum and him are divorced, and my mum used to say she was worried that i would get involved with people like my dad, because he always used to reject me, and i just wanted his love.

    i dont know why i love my boyfriend. i really dont. but i would feel so guilty if i broke up with him because i have no doubt he'd try and kill himself. i dont want that on my conscience...

    This is the problem. Sorry that your dad isn't involve in your life and I can't even gather the pain that you must feel when all you want is his love but you should listen to your mother. She is only trying to keep you from the pain that she had to deal with and don't want you to go through the same.

    In the end your dad would pay for all the wrong he did but don't let your hurt from him cause you to misplace your love. It seems that you just want love and this guy who is 3 years older than you isn't supply it and this isn't love, it's pain. Love isn't suppose to make you feel gulity, bring you down, etc. That's that opposite of love.

    You need to see an counselor to help you see things clearer. It will boost yourself esteem, confidence, and self worth. Once these things are build up your be surprise and see the change in yourself. It will also help you deal with the issues with your dad.

    Btw, this relationship is beyond unhealthy because you and your boyfriend have issues that need to be resolve by a professional but I am more concern about you. You can't solve his problems because you've your own to deal with.

    Leave this guy alone and talk to your mother so she can help give you help. Does she even know about this guy? I know you want love but love starts with loving yourself. Once you love yourself you wouldn't tolerant this from any guy. Go look in the mirror and say "I love you and deserve better". Say encouraging things to yourself and you would feel and see the difference.
  • Dec 24, 2008, 08:31 AM
    cjeep23
    There is nothing wrong with you! He on the other hand apparently has a lot of growing up to do. Get rid of him and step away, you deserve someone who will treat you with respect!

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