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  • Aug 27, 2008, 07:17 PM
    High Max
    I'm going crazy, I have a plan that is borderline insanity.
    You may think I need help after this, but it is my only option. I hope someone can understand and help me work this out. My girlfriend left me over a month ago because of how bad I messed things up. We were together over a year, and I think she is with someone else already. She's moved four hours away, but she is here a lot for some reason. Either way, its irrelevant, she doesn't owe any bills so she can come back anytime.

    I have tried dating other women, I cannot find anyone as pretty and as nice as she was to me. I consider myself a decent looking guy, but cannot seem to attract anyone with a decent body type who isn't superficial or extremely looks oriented. The girl was a gem among a million, I spent all the years of my teenage life looking for a girl like this, and the beginning of my twenties. I refuse to give up on this, I refuse to move on. There has to be a way, I cannot quit now. I feel like I'm so close. I feel like this is my final solution. I won't wait again for years to find someone even close to her, I cant. I can't go on like this. This was the only girl that was pretty that gave me the time of day.

    I'm going to convince my family, as much as I hate to put this on them, them being good people and honest, that this plan is necessary. I am going to have my sister text her on Friday and say that a friend and I were driving, I didn't have my seat belt on, and that I hit my head on the dash. I will have her tell her that she has been trying to reach her the past few days, so that I don't actually need to be in a hospital, but my condition can still be questionable while I am at bed rest. I have done my research and looked at various head related trauma, studies, etc. I know my stuff and what I plan to say, I will work out every detail.

    I know that people become closer when they suffer a near death experience. This is my only option, it's the only way I may be able to get her to open up to me again. If it works, I may benefit and receive my happiness again.. if I fail, I don't lose much anyway. There is no reason for me to not do this, it could be so crazy that it might work.. what are your thoughts?
  • Aug 27, 2008, 07:29 PM
    DrLang
    Sorry, but I need to be blunt. You are nuts if you try this.

    If you don't want to give up on her yet, that's one thing. But what you are suggesting is trying to rejuvenate your relationship based on a severe lie. I don't know how you messed things up before, but this will certainly mess things up. Even if it works, you won't be able to keep what you did a secret forever, and she will rightfully feel very betrayed and used when she finds out.
  • Aug 27, 2008, 08:28 PM
    Mr-Blank
    When my ex told me she was in a car accident cause she wasn't wearing a seat belt - I thought more about the stupidity of her not wearing a seat belt, rather than if she was OK or not. It was an instant thought of "why werent you wearing a seat belt", not "oh she might have died and i would never have seen her again".

    It's not going to work, and you are a fool if you try. Even if it does invoke some emotion from her, she's gone, time to move on.
  • Aug 27, 2008, 08:28 PM
    Budhabelly
    I have good and bad news for you.
    Good news is you are not the first person to try and get an ex-lover back by making up stories or actually doing something stupid. Nearly everyone that has been broken up with suffers, and is prepared to do anything to get their ex back.
    Bad news is, it never works. If you think being manipulative, and self-pitying wll bring her back, you are wrong. The truh will come out.
    Its hard to accept a break up. You said you messed up, well why don't you start working on that, so that if she does come back you are a better person, or you do not stuff up the next relationship.
    Lastly - TIME, give it time, time heals everything. You will never find anyone like her, but you will find someone better.
    Good Luck.
  • Aug 27, 2008, 08:39 PM
    lmangileri
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by High Max
    I have tried dating other women, I cannot find anyone as pretty and as nice as she was to me. I consider myself a decent looking guy, but cannot seem to attract anyone with a decent body type who isn't superficial or extremely looks oriented.

    You're being superficial but you're expecting the girls you go out with not to be? How is that fair?
  • Aug 27, 2008, 08:52 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Can I assume you are in Jr High or something? Sounds like it.

    You talk about them being superficial or extremely looks oriented but yet you are doing the same thing when you judge them on looks.
    Looks is not important really it is the person inside.

    Next they are moving on, and you have to start also, one month is not long, you stop contact and date to date, and perhaps in MONTHS you find another speical person.
  • Aug 27, 2008, 10:01 PM
    Kevin_s
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
    Can I assume you are in Jr High or something ?? sounds like it.

    You talk about them being superficial or extremely looks oriented but yet you are doing the same thing when you judge them on looks.
    Looks is not important really it is the person inside.

    Next they are moving on, and you have to start also, one month is not long, you stop contact and date to date, and perhaps in MONTHS you find another speical person.


    He already stated that he's older than 20...

    Why not give a story as to how you messed up? What exactly brought upon the break up (or if you have a previous link, please share.) Most of us here have just been through a break up (I'm 4 days out of a break up with my girlfriend of 2.5 years.)

    Instead of doing something like tricking her into getting you back, why not re-assess what went wrong, from her perspective, as well as yours and work on that buddy.

    Think of it like this, say you're buying some food, and you see one of the workers like spit on it, or drop it on the ground and still serve it. You wouldn't go back there (nor accept the food) but if you went back in say... 6 months from now and they had the cleanest store, the nicest employees, and the most sanitary work environment, I guarantee you would buy from them at that time.

    It's like I always say... "Your true colors don't show by the way you've acted, or by what you've done wrong. Who you are is depicted by what you do to make things right."

    If you better yourself, and be the person who she fell in love with before (AND THEN SOME) you have a better chance of making things right.

    But it doesn't just stop there, relationships don't run off love. A relationship runs off good communication and breathing room.
  • Aug 27, 2008, 11:12 PM
    Ithappenstoall
    The key to a relationship is honesty and good communication, clearly if this is your solution to try and get her back the first point is already forgotten. I definetely would not go ahead with this as it will in my opinion make things worst when she finds the out the thruth about all this which she will in time
  • Aug 27, 2008, 11:52 PM
    BetrayalBtCamp
    Would your coming up with ideas like this & going to such lengths to lie to someone you claim to love have anything to do with the breakup by any chance?

    If you can't be honest with the person you say you love while trying to win her heart back (so supposedly this is your best behavior being shown), it's likely you will be dishonest when you feel cornered again & life will always find a corner to shove you into. And if she doesn't know that about you already which is part of the reason you are her ex, doing so now will definitely do nothing but confirm that she made the right decision in staying away. This stunt will just make her run in the opposite direction & if you keep coming up with such stupid stunts will really screw up your life in all sorts of ways.

    If you can't get back together with her in a way you can be proud of, she isn't going to be either when she finds out & the odds are high that will happen. Then what will you do when she leaves then, hurt yourself so you can get her pity? You will have used up all your sympathy card long ago by then with her, if that hasn't happened already.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 12:06 AM
    ChihuahuaMomma
    To be blunt and honest, this won't work. If you somehow get her back, and WHEN she finds out about your lie, she will leave you AGAIN, and things will be worse. You will be hurt worse than you are now. Don't do it, move on.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 06:14 AM
    liz28
    How do you know when she hears this lie that she will coming back with open arms ready to try again?

    When I was 20, my ex called my grandma and explained to her he was in the hospital. He explained to her that he got jumped and was hit in the head with a metal bat and had to get a metal plate in his head. After my grandma got off the phone with him she called me. When I heard the news I felt sorry for and even went to the hospital to visit him. Even though I went to see, felt extremely sorry for him, and saw the stables in his head, I didn't want him back as a boyfriend but just was there for him as his friend. On one visit he expressed that he wanted to get back together and I told him no, which made him upset and in returned made me mad because he took my intentions for something else. Long story short, I stopped going to see him.

    I think your too obessed with this girl and if your family go along with this, then their no better. Move on and seek counselling. Don't think for one minute this girl would returned to you. Worst case scernio she does fall for this story and feels sorry and give it another go out of pity. What happens if a few months from now she decides again she no longer wants to be with you because her feeling weren't sincere? Then she leaves again, your going make up another near death experience? Watch what you lie about because it might happen, God forbid. You need to learn when something is over it is and learn to move on. You can't always get what you want. This behavior your displaying is very unhealthy.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 10:00 AM
    BetrayalBtCamp
    The fact that you see this harebrained scheme as your "only option" indicates you should seriously consider seeing a professional to dig into why that is so. Lying & tricking a partner is never a good strategy unless its for a surprise party or something of that sort.

    The fact that you could get friends or family to go along with such an idea means you desperately need someone with a much better, healthier perspective to talk to that can really be helpful to you not just in dealing with this situation, but your future relationships.

    If you stay on this slippery slope embracing the sort of horrible idea faking an injury is, I can see where you could find yourself stalking her & really have a lot of unnecessary problems on your hands.

    I'm not saying you are insane, I'm saying you are taking this too way too hard & getting help to put it in better perspective & get you through this trying time would be a good idea. It's hell to go through a breakup we don't want & it's easy to come up with crazy schemes to get back what we lost, but doing them is another ball game altogether. The fact you posted shows you know you are losing your grip on dealing with this situation which of course is highly distressful to you.

    Stop focusing on her & get yourself in a better place with some good help, OK?
  • Aug 28, 2008, 11:25 AM
    Worries2Much
    Some would say similar things about me that you say about the object of your supposed affection, I've also dated guys that thought I was something really special because I gave them the time of day when they had a bad self image, thinking they weren't the hottest thing going. And some really had trouble letting go because they thought like you: That they would never find anything better.

    That being said, Good golly, what are you thinking??

    A) She will absolutely find out you are lying.

    B) If anyone ever did to me what you are thinking of doing to this poor girl, I would never EVER dream of speaking to that person again so you're pretty much killing all hopes of getting the girl.

    And C) You sound like you care about her so ask yourself: Is this something that one should do to another when they care so deeply about that person?

    All reasons for the break up aside, you really should never hurt a person in the erratic way you are thinking. And please remember, while there are definitely shallow people all around us, not all of us are wrapped up in looks. It's confidence that is attractive and if you could muster up some of that, you will change your mind about carrying out your potentially hurtful plan.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 02:19 PM
    talaniman
    If your anything like you have portrayed yourself here, your going to be alone an awful lot, and should really be trying to get your act together to be an acceptable human being, that's healthy, and rational, of mind.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 02:28 PM
    High Max
    I believe she may already have a new boyfriend and will start developing stronger emotions for this new guy as time progresses. It's not too late, I have to stop it before there is no hope left at all. If I can pull this off, even though the chances are so slim, it would be worth a lifetime of happiness with the woman I love, than to never see her again and have her hate me because of this. I have everything to gain and nothing to lose.. do you see what I'm getting at?
  • Aug 28, 2008, 02:35 PM
    liz28
    Serious, if you think this plan will bring you a lifetime of happiness with this girl, you really are crazy. You need to move on and stop being obessive over this girl. Get your head out the movies in thinking this would make her fall back in love with you. You should be ashame of yourself and I'd not go along with this plot.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 02:39 PM
    High Max
    I'm sorry for letting everyone down. My fate has been sealed, I have no choice.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 02:53 PM
    liz28
    It's your choice and your life and your only setting yourself. I think you cross that borderline of craziness and done entered it. If you really think this will work, then something is wrong.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 03:12 PM
    liz28
    I realize that you've been asking questions about this girl since April. Yes, she has moved on and most likely with someone else. You need theraphy and your realatives are even crazier for going along with this plan.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 03:12 PM
    BetrayalBtCamp
    Quote:

    I have no choice.
    The lies you are telling yourself to even conceive of carrying out this plan are mindboggling to me. You do have choices, lots of them & lots better ones. You just don't like them.

    Quote:

    I have everything to gain and nothing to lose..
    No, in fact you have everything to lose & nothing to gain.

    I'm sorry you are in such anguish, but you are heading off a cliff as fast as you can & as we all know, it's not the fall that will kill you but the landing. Your letting yourself continue to think the way you are is only going to continue to hurt you & very very badly.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 03:16 PM
    Worries2Much
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by High Max
    I'm sorry for letting everyone down. My fate has been sealed, I have no choice.


    Your fate has been sealed?

    Are you even reading your posts before you send them out in public?

    I was worried for the girl but now I'm really worried for you.
    You're not letting us down, but more yourself. And you do have a choice, now I suggest acting like a responsible adult and making one that is rational. Saying you don't have a choice is a cop out.

    If you have any kind of conscience you will stop and realize that even if your ploy is "successful", you will feel tremendous guilt throughout your "lifetime of happiness" for guilting someone into wanting you.

    Besides that I feel incredibly sorry for this girl for what you want to do to her, I'm not sure what I'm worried about since even if she feels guilty enough to take you back momentarily, she will still have the lack of feeling for you that caused this breakup in the first place.

    You are only hurting yourself.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 03:52 PM
    brkfstatiffs
    To be blunt, my thoughts are that you have issues and seriously need to get over her. Are you crazy? I am a normal, attractive, cool girl... probably similar to your ex. If a guy (who I was clearly already in the process of getting over and on to dating new people) ever put on this act to me it would make me do the complete opposite and run as far away from him as possible versus becoming closer to him. No SANE girl, is going to like what you have in mind. She will learn one way or another of the lie and it will backfire on you. It's f_cked up you are even thinking of doing this. How old are you?? It's like the boy who cried wolf. Watch out if you do this your karma's about to be f_cked up for good. Get over her, she's obviously moving ina direction that she is content with. There are a lot of fish in the sea. I've been in your shoes (even currently) where you want to bad to have someone back. They seem perfect, like you two were meant to be etc. It hurts bad. But guess what?That's reality, and reality bites sometimes. Be a man, and be strong, and move on. I promise there will be someone else out there. But please, don't do the whole accident thing that is the most inmature, insecure thing I have ever head of.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 03:54 PM
    brkfstatiffs
    Seriously, if you stick to your plan, in your ego it may seem okay, but it's only going to backfire. I would put money on that.
  • Aug 28, 2008, 09:41 PM
    BetrayalBtCamp
    Do the facts that you guys broke up because you treated her badly & you're wanting to get her back by trickery / deceipt really not ring any bells for you as to why that would be monumentally BAD idea, (like in lying to her is a very wrong thing to do) or it will show her you are still as self centered as ever, (not an attractive trait at all)??

    You notice not ONE person has encouraged you to pull your nasty plot off & yet you persist in insisting that it's your only choice?

    Cuz obviously as much as you were willing to spend time researching head injuries, you don't see a need to put that time into being honest with her? Oh wait, that would take you being able to demonstrate you can be a good partner & a selfish liar sure isn't. Do you really not get that??

    Like maybe one of the options is seeing a professional to get some help for yourself & on how to have a great relationship which would be much more helpful & needed than what you are actually planning plus give you proof you want to change & do the right things?? Maybe ask her to go with you to the counselor after you've had a few solo sessions so she can give her side of what life with you was like so your issues can be properly addressed, which would at least show her that you are trying to be the type of person she needs / wants?
  • Aug 29, 2008, 08:31 AM
    talaniman
    I think it better to attract a mate through caring and sharing, not deceit. Your idea is insane, desperate, and selfish, and uncaring, and doubt any one, even your family, will go along with such an idea.

    Get some help soon!
  • Aug 29, 2008, 08:43 AM
    BMI
    One for the books.

    I mean no disrespect, the emotional pain of losing a partner is one of the worst pains aperson can go through, it's also the most constructive and helpful.

    True Love conquers all as the saying goes. However, it does remain silent on finding true love based on deceipt. Many here have already picked out your selfishness, superficiallity coupled with double standards, although you wrap these ugly traits up in a story about your journey to find happiness and Love.

    Your not yourself, you are most likely a good person who cannot see or think straight, a good person who is letting his emotions drive him mad. Make no mistake this is madness, it is wrong on so many levels and carrying through with it will hurt everyone involved, I fear it will hurt you the most.
  • Aug 29, 2008, 04:36 PM
    High Max
    Time isn't on my side, I realize how necessary this is. I think I am going to do this tonight, in just a few hours. I will wait until everyone is in bed, and collect my family's cell phones so I can rig this up.

    God forgive me, I am about to commit the greatest sin.
  • Aug 29, 2008, 11:08 PM
    lmnotok
    Hahahaha... this is one of the most ridiculous post I've ever read, you obviously want drama. YOu Don't love her, you just have the idea of her and obsessed with it. TOOOOOO desperate.

    Ok then, if you can't seem to think then just do it! Life can't be better without experiences. Do it then you'll find out what really works in REAL LIFE.

    Come back and tell us the result :)
  • Aug 30, 2008, 05:55 AM
    Ithappenstoall
    You really need help, after everyone s advice here to do the exact opposite you are still persistent to go ahead with this ridiculous plot. Please seek help for yourself, as this is becoming borderline crazy and can seriously become dangerous.
  • Aug 30, 2008, 07:03 AM
    talaniman
    TROLL ALERT!!!!!!!!
  • Aug 30, 2008, 07:39 AM
    N0help4u
    I agree with the others! What if she asked too many questions and realized you were lying? Then she would hate you for sure! What if all she was able to do would be send some flowers and a card? You are not going to accomplish anything with this scheme!

    IF you only broke up because of distance and you have no reason for being apart and nothing holding you back why don't you just call and ask where things would stand with the two of you if you still lived close and then check into moving close to her?
  • Aug 30, 2008, 09:44 AM
    Ithappenstoall
    Honestly hope you have come to your senses
  • Aug 30, 2008, 10:06 AM
    Boristheblade
    It's a shame, because you are SO going to do this and it is SO self-destructive in many ways. A real shame.
  • Aug 4, 2012, 07:23 PM
    bungar1
    There are 6 Billion people on earth.. 3bil male... 3 bil female.. u got 100 yrs to live.. your wasting your time on one??

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